Can't do a burnout!

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BradC
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I know how a burnout is hard on the car and all that but...

Should a stock 91 240sx ka24de (95K) be able to do a burnout?

I have a auto with LSD. I have some crappy (cheap) 205/60 tires. I try to burnout the car revs to 2300 or so and moves sideways a little and you can here the tires spinning very slowly but I can't get them to spin fast and smoke. I'm basically stock except for a K&N FIPK. Will raising or lowering the tire pressure help? I have a new fuel filter. Do you think maybe I need new plugs and wires or something? Will an upgraded 2.5 inch exhaust help?


gemo
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Are you just flooring the pedal from a stop position or are you putting the car in nuetral and reving it up then dropping it into drive?With underpowered cars (like my hyundai accent) you need to rev it up in neutral and drop it into drive.

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I think we're looking at a Nooby here.

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gemo wrote: you need to rev it up in neutral and drop it into drive.
Are you kidding me? Don't do "Neutral drops" god thats stupid and a good way to drop your trans real fast. They are easily the worst way to do a burnout. If you really want to burn out, try doing a brake torque. Your 240 is rwd, so just push the brake to the floor and watch your revs.

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gemo wrote:With underpowered cars (like my hyundai accent) you need to rev it up in neutral and drop it into drive.
please god no.that is REAL bad for your trans and inst even the best way to do it.Hold the car still with the brakes and rev the engine up. When slippage occures in the torque converter it multiplies torque by ~2X. Doing this generates alot of heat in the torque converter so dont do it for extended periods(less then 5 seconds) keep on the gas and let go of the brake.Do NOT drop your auto trans from nuetral into gear while reving it is VERY bad for the transmission.

BradC
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I am a noob to 240sx's, but I'm never driven a car this slow. My previous car was a LT1 Trans Am and ran 13.5 in the quarter and it has no trouble brake torquing or "peeling out" . I am unable to do a burnout in this car. And yes, of course I am using the brake.

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rsmithdrift
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Auto + 4 cyl = NO BURNOUTS!!! lol.

I can barely do it in my 5-sp 93.

I have the same engine setup you have, intake and a full tune up.

When I rev to 4k rpm and drop the clutch it wheel hops and screeches for a sec, then imediately starts peg legging, or grips and launches. Then again, I have $100 each New Michelin Pilots on the car and they are very sticky.

My Z (NA, so 160hp) will burn rubber all the way through 2nd with it's $25 each firestones lol. It has such little grip it doesn't even peg leg or wheel hop even though it has the same open diff and rear multilink suspension.

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my old auto could burnout all day... maybe b/c the camber in the back was horrible. oh yeah definately buy adjustable RUCA's if you plan on lowering the car buddy...

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Red coupe
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mostly for the other guy who was doing neutral drops.well you said the car got a little sideways, sounds like the tires were spining to me. Remember the car had like 130hp to the wheels 13 years ago so stock its not really a smokey burn out machine...

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burgandy coupe ftw!

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I have a 1992 DE 5 speed, and I can peel up to third gear. Course, usually I rev up to 3500 or so, but I don't drop my clutch from a stop either.....

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rsmithdrift
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GOOD LORD MAN!!!!!! What do you have, a turbo or something!!!??????

That's absolutely insane. You must be running ABS plastic tires or something like my drift R/C car has on it or somehting to make 160 flywheel hp burn through 3rd. With my 240 if I drop the clutch from a stand still in 2nd at 6k it'll only barely squeel the tires before it totally bogs out. And my motor runs perfect now. Shifting 1st to 2nd it'll barely chirp the tires if I do it just right.

I want to know what you've got under the hood, it clearly isn't a stock KA.

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When I bought the car, it had (from what I could verify) is hotshot headers, and exhaust system....Unorthodox pulleys, NGK plugs, and I installed an air intake. The guy I bought it from said he got it from his uncle, and he originally was going to use it for a track car....He rebuilt the engine...new rods, cams, etc....I don't know if thats true or not. Sure seems like it though....

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Oh yeah, I have really cheap tires on it too.....They work for now, but will lose traction very easily...I hate driving in the rain period. Stock size Remington brand....

H.D.HUMPERDINK
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wd40 works to get you going or just use water.

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kona240
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dont worry i cant burn out too. my friend can but he dump at 6k and sum really crappy tires. and on a hill too

BradC
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Thanks for the replies. It's really not that big of a deal I just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with my new 240. I'm been reading post about how to test to see if you have LSD by doing a "burnout" . What it should say is if you can't do a burnout then you know you have LSD

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If you can find a big parking lot-empty of course-just make a big circle at 15-20mph as tight as you can with only a little gas. Then, as you feel the car start to reach its limit, nail the gas. It will spin. I have a mostly stock 5-speed, and I can pitch it like that in 3rd at 50-60 and smoke them off.

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When I had bald tires on my '97 auto I could. Now that I have tread I can't. But hopefully I'll get a 5 speed soon anyways.

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rofl burn through third!!damn dude..thats either REALLY bad driving, or you have some of the ****tiest tires.

when i first started learning 5spd, i chirped the first 4 gears.yeah, and my tires were BAD. they had PLENTY tread, but they did not stick for ****.

burning or even for that matter, chirping, through the first three is hard on the stock 240, as long as you dont drop the clutch every gear.

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BradC wrote:Thanks for the replies. It's really not that big of a deal I just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with my new 240. I'm been reading post about how to test to see if you have LSD by doing a "burnout" . What it should say is if you can't do a burnout then you know you have LSD
its not burning out persay.. if you see two tire marks, giddy, you have vlsd.if you have one tire mark, aw.. too bad, open diff for you!

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Does no1 here know how to do a burnout? I could do it so eaisly in my 93 hatch 5spd. Just the other day in my AUTO VERT I poured smoke inside my car. Both cars stock.Now my 93 hatch is turboed. However I do have an 89 hatch which I could go jump start to show yall.Auto is simple.Brake to the floor and have it in 1st and punch the gas. Manual take it up to about 35-4000(stock tires) and drop the clutch. Might need to apply some brake here to allow for a good burnout.

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you probly cant do full burnout in auto 240 but if your just looking to spin the weels any way you can. wet the pavment cut the well and floor it.

1990flatblack240
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Whats wrong with all your cars? I have intake and 2.25 cat back with high flow cat and when i drop the clutch I can easily burn out till 3rd gear. Its a 90 5spd.

Try to burn out on different kind of cement i guess.. The black top stuff works the best.

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you can sit at a stop and do full smoke show id like to see it. recored & post

1990flatblack240
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I got a pic on my cell phone, but I dont own a video camera.. Pics good enough? You'll have to wait till I get back from vaction though.. Someone posted earlier 2 burnout lines is vlsd and 1 is open. I thought it was the other way around.

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Wow! this is like a gathering of the noobs or something.

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naed240sx wrote:Wow! this is like a gathering of the noobs or something.
Indeed
gemo wrote:Are you just flooring the pedal from a stop position or are you putting the car in nuetral and reving it up then dropping it into drive?With underpowered cars (like my hyundai accent) you need to rev it up in neutral and drop it into drive.
Yeah, do that, it'll spin the tires. Just dont be suprised when your *** gets impailed by transmission parts shooting out of the damn floor. If you're treating an auto transmission like a manual, ever, then you better just to a swap because you're gonna blow it anyway in like a week.

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Video up in just a few minutes.Just went and did it with my Ka-T and the vert. Brought to you by Floyds13 and I.

Florida240sx
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It is impossible to burnout in a 240 If you are one of the ones who can't use the 240sx to it's potential. You deserve a and SHIRTSit back and enjoy http://media.putfile.com/kat-burnhttp:/ ... AT-Scratch


Modified by Florida240sx at 1:55 AM 3/26/2006


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