can somebody give some input between these wheels?

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xxr 002 (16x8 +0 or +10)

xxr 522 (16x8 +0 or +10)

xxr 501 (16x8 +0 or +10)

xxr 006 (17x9 + 20)

rota p-45r (17x9.5 +12)

i need to know if any of these will rub and i also dont want to run spacers either so if anybody could give me some insight into these wheels that would be great!

really looking at the lader two btw


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its latter. buuuttt for less rub and no need for spacers, go with the lowest offset ones. you may bet fender rub, depending on your height with the 0 offset ones.

for s13's i'd say 17's look and fit the best. so go with the 17x9 or 17x9.5 like you planned.

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im_looking_for_a_240sx wrote:its latter. buuuttt for less rub and no need for spacers, go with the lowest offset ones. you may bet fender rub, depending on your height with the 0 offset ones.

for s13's i'd say 17's look and fit the best. so go with the 17x9 or 17x9.5 like you planned.
thanks alot for the info, i havnt gotten a look on what 16's look like so i cant make a good decision on those i see 17s all the time and they seem to fit the wheel well the best

and the only other consern i had was torque, how much torque i would be loosing from going from 15 to 17's noticible?

is it a big difference?, because i had planed on using these wheels for auto x and street use and using my stock's and steelies for drift events and what not until i got good enough to go bigger

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poshatch wrote:thanks alot for the info, i havnt gotten a look on what 16's look like so i cant make a good decision on those i see 17s all the time and they seem to fit the wheel well the bestand the only other consern i had was torque, how much torque i would be loosing from going from 15 to 17's noticible?is it a big difference?, because i had planed on using these wheels for auto x and street use and using my stock's and steelies for drift events and what not until i got good enough to go bigger
Bro, its all your preference. IMO 17 for looks and 16 with good offset for autox and sliding around. i doubt you would notice the powerloss if any, between 15s and 17s....

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in my experience with a stock KA and sliding, there is a noticable difference. smaller/stretched tires would prolly make this go away. but with 17's as ur daily wheels you can easily put the 15/16's on for sliding and aquire a sort of "sqwat" that may help some. buuuuuuuuuuut its really all preference...

if you have an SR or turbo or other more powerful engine then you'll be fine.

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As far as losing torque, I'm assuming you're referring to the change in gear ratio with larger diameter wheels. With the proper plus sizing, you'll retain about the same gear ratio and you won't feel any loss in power, ie larger wheels equals lower profile tires. BTW, I have 16's on my car if you're curious as to how 16's looks like on a hatch. Just check the sig.

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S14toRPS13 wrote:As far as losing torque, I'm assuming you're referring to the change in gear ratio with larger diameter wheels. With the proper plus sizing, you'll retain about the same gear ratio and you won't feel any loss in power, ie larger wheels equals lower profile tires. BTW, I have 16's on my car if you're curious as to how 16's looks like on a hatch. Just check the sig.
you got it, im refferring to torque lost at the wheels from switching to a bigger size, if its not a huge difference then i will probably go with the 17's

and thanks for the pic of the 16's its hard to find a pic of those on a 240sx since everybody goes 17 or classic look

im gonna drive a 240 with 17's and see if its nothing big before i make my decision

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rotas

17s

win

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ag240 wrote:
Bro, its all your preference. IMO 17 for looks and 16 with good offset for autox and sliding around. i doubt you would notice the powerloss if any, between 15s and 17s....
Ohhh you definitely notice the power loss, which is one of the reasons im swapping. Also braking is decreased as well but its worth it.

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OM3GA wrote:rotas

17s

win
Rotas never win.

17x9 +25 (I don't know the offsets on these damn wheels) XXR 006 in the front and 18x9.5+25 in the back.

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OM3GA wrote:
Ohhh you definitely notice the power loss, which is one of the reasons im swapping. Also braking is decreased as well but its worth it.
damn really?

i got z32 brakes so i dont know if braking with suffer that much but still thats no good if it does affect braking

and the power loss on 17 is that big? cause im gonna need a responcive car cause im only rockin kade power right now and the more help i can get the better haha

basically these are gonna be street and auto x so i need responce and grip

drift im rockin the stokies

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Power loss? No. Wheels taking longer to make a full rotation, yes. Rolling resistance, higher roll-out, etc.

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ILoveMyRHS13 wrote:Power loss? No. Wheels taking longer to make a full rotation, yes. Rolling resistance, higher roll-out, etc.
big whoops

yea wheels dont affect the engine, i meant torque

if it isnt a consiterable difference ill probably go for more grip with the rotas

still looking for driving impressions on them wheels for prefference

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Wheels are wheels, homie. Granted, some are stronger, some are lighter, etc. It's all about what you want you want your car to look like. If you're looking for grip, get the widest wheel possible and put the widest tire on it.

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yes, wheels are wheels. but your goal should be the lightest, strongest wheels possible. other than that the only other consideration that should dictate size is what brakes you plan on running, and what rim size and offset can clear those brakes. its all about function OVER form

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17's on s13 = win!

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carps13guy wrote:yes, wheels are wheels. but your goal should be the lightest, strongest wheels possible. other than that the only other consideration that should dictate size is what brakes you plan on running, and what rim size and offset can clear those brakes. its all about function OVER form
yea thats how i feel

ive been looking at wheels for the last two days trying to figure out what would be be best offset and width, what kind of tyres i can run with tthat rim, price of rim, price of tyres, grip,

i had a lovely post about wheel criteria but a generous moderator deleted it

soooo i refinded my question and i guess it was left up

i got z brakes so these will probably fit for sure, i need an offset that wont rub on anything on lock (lower) and anything that low will most likely clear my z32 brakes

currently running 15" and 60 sidewall

with 17" and 40 sidewall the difference is only 10 mm so that isnt crap

still digging the rota p-45 r 17x9.5 +12 ftw

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rotas get a lot of bad reviews. but for the money you cant beat em. all the guys that break em are always @ the track. for a DD those should suit you fine and still clear z brakes. but im not sure. i think there is a wheel fitment thread here somewhere. and one of the criterion was to post up what brakes you had and the gap between the outer edge of the caliper and the inner edge of the rim. search for that, should help you figure out your offset

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im pretty sure they will fit with a +12, i have the stock 7 spokes and those mo fos clear

barely! but clear with no spacers, it is seriously, no joke, 2mm max of space more like 1

so im sure these will clear just fineee

and i doubt i will break them, as long as i dont slam into shiza

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17's will feel different than 15's based on unsprung mass and rotational mass increase...

you car is stock and still slow, rock wheels that look good IMO... as far as drifting goes rock cheap wheels FTW....

btw Z32 brakes fit with steelie 15"s ??

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Get what you want 2k on rims could go toward 2k in performance function over form

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TheRealNap0le0n wrote:17's will feel different than 15's based on unsprung mass and rotational mass increase...

you car is stock and still slow, rock wheels that look good IMO... as far as drifting goes rock cheap wheels FTW....

btw Z32 brakes fit with steelie 15"s ??
well thats a yes and a no

if you go on 240sxtechnical they got this same info but basically

there are two designs in stock 15" 7 spoke steelies

one of which the back of the spokes is two parrallel lines, and the other is sort of a criss cross of 3 lines, thats just how they look

the parrallel ones wont fit but the 3 line one will, and they only fit the 28mm z32 brakes, the 30mm ones wont clear either unless you space the wheel somehow by about 4 mm

its pretty rediculous how barely they clear

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finally somebody cleared that up 17s FTW

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poshatch wrote:
well thats a yes and a no

if you go on 240sxtechnical they got this same info but basically

there are two designs in stock 15" 7 spoke steelies

one of which the back of the spokes is two parrallel lines, and the other is sort of a criss cross of 3 lines, thats just how they look

the parrallel ones wont fit but the 3 line one will, and they only fit the 28mm z32 brakes, the 30mm ones wont clear either unless you space the wheel somehow by about 4 mm

its pretty rediculous how barely they clear
hmm i dont even remember what my wheels look like seeing that i have awesome undamaged hubcaps.... not the gay ones but the cool ones...

i'm gunna have to figure out how to make the 15" 5lug maxima steelies work cuz when i go 5 lug i wanna stick with 15" steelies for a while... to save for baller wheels and for teh dorifto purposes

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TheRealNap0le0n wrote:hmm i dont even remember what my wheels look like seeing that i have awesome undamaged hubcaps.... not the gay ones but the cool ones...

i'm gunna have to figure out how to make the 15" 5lug maxima steelies work cuz when i go 5 lug i wanna stick with 15" steelies for a while... to save for baller wheels and for teh dorifto purposes
if you go 5 lug so s14 i hear they clear z32 or 300zx will clear for sure 16x8 not bad

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Cool to see another Sacramento area guy.

1. Don't F up Sacramento worse than it is to drive a 240.2. If you are worried about the mass of the 17's messing things up look up Brian Harte, guy has been rocking a NA KA for days.

In the end if yours car and do what you like. Happy modding!

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TheRealNap0le0n wrote:btw Z32 brakes fit with steelie 15"s ??
no, the OP said that he has the 7 spoke, as in 7 spoke se alloys. but he has the special alloys with the hollow inside that just barely clear z brakes. there is a thread w/pics on here showing you the difference. ive been looking for a set for a while now

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carps13guy wrote:
no, the OP said that he has the 7 spoke, as in 7 spoke se alloys. but he has the special alloys with the hollow inside that just barely clear z brakes. there is a thread w/pics on here showing you the difference. ive been looking for a set for a while now
hahaha, you know what though

my car came with a pair of the ones that will clear and a pair of the ones that wont

i lucked out, i guess, its basically luck of the draw from what i hear lol

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sancosys wrote:Cool to see another Sacramento area guy.

1. Don't F up Sacramento worse than it is to drive a 240.2. If you are worried about the mass of the 17's messing things up look up Brian Harte, guy has been rocking a NA KA for days.

In the end if yours car and do what you like. Happy modding!

Aaron
yea i understand how lame it is. never been pulled over until i owned a 240

been searched and everything, really bogas crap, i assume you mean from drifting and if i do do that on the streets i go out into the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night where i never see even one car and have a budy system

nothing in the open so dont worry about that

i have decided to go with the rota p45r 17x9.5 +12 all the way around, they look right lol

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sorry to bring up a dead topic but im still looking into wheels and at first i thought i wanted to go with the rota p45 r

but i saw a hatch today that looked ballin on some 16" xxr

the 501 is the only one with an offset (+15) the rest are +0 and i was wondering if anybody knew if the 16x8 +15 OR +0 will clear my brakes without spacers

thanks everybody for all the info and help


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