Can My 06 G35 Sedan 6MT Beat a 03 Mach 1 auto Mustang?

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I have a friend that wants to race me at the track next saturday and i want to know the outcome!

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Engine MOD 4.6L DOHC V8 (Aluminum Block) Displacement 4.6L, 281 cu. in. Horsepower @ rpm 305 @ 6000 Torque lb.-ft. @ rpm 320 @ 4250 Compression Ratio 10.1:1 Fuel System Sequential multi-port electronic fuel injection Fuel Requirement Premium (91 octane minimum) Exhaust System Stainless steel with chromed rolled tips Transmission Type 5-speed manual or 4-speed automatic Wheels 17 x 8-inch Magnum 500-style "Heritage Style" (5 spoke) Tires Goodyear 245/45ZR17 Eagle ZR45 Dimensions Wheelbase 257.3 cm (101.3 in.) Overall Length 465.3 cm (183.2 in.) Overall Height 132.9 cm (52.35 in.) Overall Width 185.6 cm (73.1 in.) Tread Width (Front/Rear) 152.9 cm (60.2 in.)/153.9 cm (60.6 in.) Curb Weight 3465 lbs. (manual) 3475 lbs. (automatic) Front/Rear Seating Capacity 4 Aerodynamics Coefficient of Drag (Cd) 0.36 Luggage Capacity 10.9 cu. ft. Passenger Volume 83.0 cu. ft. Total Interior Volume 93.9 cu. ft. Fuel Tank Capacity 15.7 gal.

Tell me what you Guys/Gals think!

His Girlfriend has a 06 auto g35 coupe and she said that he beat her at the track but i think he is a better driver and she still has an auto!

DJ


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Should be a good race!I'm thinking the Mach has a 3.55 gear in it.Good luck! Let us know how it turns out!

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i would guess he's probably going to to get you if he knows how to launch. On a roll i think it'd be close, but off the line his tq advantage will get you by at least 1/2 a car....but you never know it could be a drivers race!! Good luck and let us know how it goes!

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Torque lb.-ft. @ rpm 320 @ 4250. The AT slows the stang down a bit but it would be a good race (at the track).

3.73 with an auto??? Not sure...

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SVTCOBRA wrote:Should be a good race!I'm thinking the Mach has a 3.55 gear in it.Good luck! Let us know how it turns out!
Way to be neutral, Mr. Diplomacy!

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Just like SVTCOBRA's driveway I favor the G35 2:1 over the Mustang

You need drag radials!

Leave at 2500 - 3000 RPM... Hold the motor at 3000 rpm and when the 2nd yellow light dims dump the clutch and nail it. The tires will light up. Let up slightly on the throttle to control wheel spin. Once you control wheel spin floor it again and don't miss any shifts!

Let your rear tires down to 24-26 psi

Turn off VDC

remove EVERYTHING from the trunk and passenger compartment.

If you loose the 1st match take out your air filter and back seat

Good luck and please get someone to shoot video!

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gwoods wrote:Just like SVTCOBRA's driveway I favor the G35 2:1 over the Mustang

If you loose the 1st match take out your air filter and back seat
Oh, don't forget the weight of your clothes...wear only a racing thong like Jeff does.

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The hood is only 4 bolts, so is the trunk.... buy a hole saw and do some REAL weight reduction....

The racing thong is not just about weight reduction.... its also about intimidating the other drivers!

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And there is 40+ pounds of paint on the car. Get the air conditioning, the window glass, the carpets, the radio, the front seats, the window motors, the oil pan, and debadge it.

And don't put the sweat socks in your racing thong like others do...

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Your making a joke but these weight reductions are things I am constantly thinking about.

I see 2007 G35 wrecks up for auction all the time... if they ever dropped down to 5k I may buy one for track use only and stop abusing my daily driver

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
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BigWill wrote:
Way to be neutral, Mr. Diplomacy!
I pull for our NICO brothers regardless of what they are in or what they are racing against!!

As far as who will win? I think it will be up to the driver.


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What is weight difference between two drivers?

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I'd suggest practicing on your take off. You may find that the spare tire does you more good than bad.

35lbs of sprung weight isn't much, but it can assist with traction.

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gwoods wrote:Your making a joke but these weight reductions are things I am constantly thinking about.I see 2007 G35 wrecks up for auction all the time... if they ever dropped down to 5k I may buy one for track use only and stop abusing my daily driver[
Actually, that would work. a 500+lb pound reduction would be possible if you didn't want to drive it on the street. You get a G down to 3k pounds and 306+HP and you would have a serious contender. I'm guessing 10-12MPH and a full second just from weight. Add a few mods, and an little NOS and you'd probably see high 11's. low 12's. That's cooking.


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gwoods wrote:Just like SVTCOBRA's driveway I favor the G35 2:1 over the Mustang

You need drag radials!

Leave at 2500 - 3000 RPM... Hold the motor at 3000 rpm and when the 2nd yellow light dims dump the clutch and nail it. The tires will light up. Let up slightly on the throttle to control wheel spin. Once you control wheel spin floor it again and don't miss any shifts!

Let your rear tires down to 24-26 psi

Turn off VDC

remove EVERYTHING from the trunk and passenger compartment.

If you loose the 1st match take out your air filter and back seat

Good luck and please get someone to shoot video!
Thanks for the Good info Jeff...

Dose it help with lower tire pressure? I should only do that to the rear tires right???

Thanks DJ

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Yup looking forward to the video I know you'll post...right!!

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SVTCOBRA wrote:
I pull for our NICO brothers regardless of what they are in or what they are racing against!!

As far as who will win? I think it will be up to the driver.
He has been to the track a few times.

IT will be up to me who wins! He just has to nail the gas.. I have to do some shifting lol!

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Yes, just the rear tires...

Cold you want the fronts up to 36 psi

The rears you want down to 24-26 psi

The hardest part is controlling wheel spin.... you need some wheel spin to transfer weight from the front of the car to the back and pop the front end up.

Leave full throttle at about 3000 rpm as soon as your tires spin just left off the gas very slightly and then put the pedal back down.

Avoid the water box! Drive around it and then do a small burn out up to the line. You want your tires warm not hot and you do not want any water on them.

Watch the lights ignore the other car completely.... don't watch him. There are 2 reds, 3 yellows and 1 green.

When the middle yellow light lights/dims leave you will get a .2 - .3 reaction time and that might be enough to win if he is sleeping at the tree.

Listen to this video of me racing..... you hear wheel spin in the start but it goes away right away.


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rn79870 wrote:
Actually, that would work. a 500+lb pound reduction would be possible if you didn't want to drive it on the street. You get a G down to 3k pounds and 306+HP and you would have a serious contender. I'm guessing 10-12MPH and a full second just from weight. Add a few mods, and an little NOS and you'd probably see high 11's. low 12's. That's cooking.
This is what i planned on takeing out of the car.

Trunk Mat and every thing that can come out... Tire, all the aid kits, the jack and any tools i keep in the car!

Inside i want to take out the floor mats and anything i have in the car that comes out.

I plan going to the track with about a 1/4 of a tank of gas. This will be the best reduction. 20.0 Gallons of fuel is about 160 lbs.

I am going to try to get 100 octain Fuel.. They sell it at a marina by my house. I think this will make a big difference!

And I will be leaving the GF to video tape lol!

Anything else i need to take out that i can't think of at the time?

DJ

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Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT wrote:I am going to try to get 100 octain Fuel.. They sell it at a marina by my house. I think this will make a big difference!
Be careful that it isn't leaded gas. I don't know that it is, or how much leaded gas it might take to foul your car's emission system. You might ask around.

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It only takes a few min of runtime to completely ruin the cats with leaded fuel...be careful. CATS are expensive to replace.

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joe603 wrote:It only takes a few min of runtime to completely ruin the cats with leaded fuel...be careful. CATS are expensive to replace.
100 Oct fuel will ruin the cats???

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Auto Parts stores sell NOS Brand Octane boost.... I used to run it with 91/92 octane gas in my Hemi when I ran nitrous. It is supposed to add 60 points to the octane rating... so 91 becomes 97 and 92 becomes 98 octane. Our motors are 11:1 so anything from 90-100 octane will be great. Anything above 100 octane will not be any better 100 octane.

You need to drive around for a little while 60 + miles with the higher octane gas in the car so the ECU can adjust to it otherwise you will not see any performance gains.

Heres another tip.... drive out to a resturant very close to the track and eat. That way your car will be cool for the first run!

You can also try icing down your intake and plenum with Co2 or another compressed gas. Like that stuff you can buy to clean computers... during the summer here in AZ I some times take a paint ball gun canister of Co2 out to the track with me and ice down the intake tube(s).

On the ram I used to run a short belt that bypassed the power steering pump that was good for 2 tenths in the 1/4. I don't know if it is possible to do something similar on the G's.


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No 100 octane WITH LEAD will ruin the cats in a matter of seconds per my research.

Lead increases octane, but has a bunch of other bad effects. That's why it was banned back in the 70s and all of the newer cars have emission systems that can't handle leaded fuel.

I would look under the hood for additional weight loss. I wouldn't go haywire, but stuff like intakes and plenum covers can help a little. Especially since the car was built with balance in mind.

Also, you can lose about a pound, if you go with lightweight open lugnuts. I know that sounds lame, but a pound of unsprung rotating weight is worth a lot.

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Tampa G35 Sedan 6MT wrote:
100 Oct fuel will ruin the cats???

DJ
It isn't the 100 octane that will cause the problem, it is whether the 100 octane is leaded or not. If it is leaded, avoid it. It would be better to follow gwoods example of adding booster than chancing the gas.

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I hear ya Rich. I just thought that you would chime in with some kind of 'pro-Ford' response. You surprised me with your middle of the road reply!

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Fold in your mirrors too!

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gwoods wrote:Fold in your mirrors too!
I will have the car washed and waxed before the day too!


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gwoods wrote:Auto Parts stores sell NOS Brand Octane boost.... I used to run it with 91/92 octane gas in my Hemi when I ran nitrous. It is supposed to add 60 points to the octane rating... so 91 becomes 97 and 92 becomes 98 octane. Our motors are 11:1 so anything from 90-100 octane will be great. Anything above 100 octane will not be any better 100 octane.

You need to drive around for a little while 60 + miles with the higher octane gas in the car so the ECU can adjust to it otherwise you will not see any performance gains.

Heres another tip.... drive out to a resturant very close to the track and eat. That way your car will be cool for the first run!

You can also try icing down your intake and plenum with Co2 or another compressed gas. Like that stuff you can buy to clean computers... during the summer here in AZ I some times take a paint ball gun canister of Co2 out to the track with me and ice down the intake tube(s).

On the ram I used to run a short belt that bypassed the power steering pump that was good for 2 tenths in the 1/4. I don't know if it is possible to do something similar on the G's.
Can i put more than 1 bottle in the tank?

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Read the label. It probably tells you the optimum amount of gas to add it to. Like 1 bottle to 10 gallons, etc. Follow the directions for best results.


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