Cams

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Ok, i havnt really seen enough information in the ca forum to get this down yet. I have been looking at cams for a while and i have even found a place that sells cams for the ca18de and the ca18et. First, will those fit in the det. Next would 235 duration and .5 lift be suitable for low to mid range torque? My reasoning is, that if i can get low end torque to make up for the turbo lag, i could get up to full boost with some power, and where longer duration cams would have more power high up, the turbo will be there to make up for it. And this still has to be streetable and i want it to somewhat idle

. Any info on cam choice, places to get them, and the crossover on it would be really helpful.

Nick

Post by **slw240sx** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

im working on getting tomei cams over here in teh states ill let you know what the price is once my peoples locate and order mine

Post by **boost_boy** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Nab, get the motor in your car and get it to run right 1st to see what you're missing. Once you get the thing in your car and start cranking on it, only then will you be able to determine if you need camshafts or not. You can pump out 300whp on the stock DET with an upgraded fuel system, turbo and FMIC. Once you hit that magic 300whp and you want more, then you start chasing solid lifters and big cams. But those items on a streetable CA18 is not the best combintaion, but it all depends on what type of turbo you use.

Post by **CA19DET** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

and i also think that the stock cams are 248* duration.

and rememerb that yes the turbo will make up allot of the top end, but turbo setups need good cams to allow the engine to breath better at high rpms, where the stock cams usually max out their capabilities.

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Alright, well i guess i stay with stock cams but im still goign to get cam gears, valve springs and port and polished head because i want the reliability motor work done befor i run it. Next question... fuel management...

Post by **gani** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

ok some stuff you dont really need if you are shooting for lets say 400rwhp the port and polish only will do wonders ca valve train is pretty capable of some power. if it were me i wound invest in a good standalone cpu like haltech run some big injectors and good balanced turbo and you`d be surprised at what that little motor will do. i would suggest put it in your car in stock trim then start modding once it runs right when you put everything all at one diagnosis is gonna be a hassle this is from experience. just my 2 cents

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

well is port and polished, valve seating, and valve springs a bad idea... because thats a make it safe befor i run it kind of thing. and the front mount is to keep the turbo cool, i need it. The clutch will definatly get replaced because who knows how bad the old clutch is. Im not really doing any mods...

Post by **r34 gtr** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

none of that could hurt, i dont see any of those as a bad idea.

and the front mount is to keep the intake temp down, it wont effect how hot the turbo itself is, that all depends on your right foot.

- tim

Post by **gani** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

i might get haltech e6x installed in the next 2 months so ill tell you how it hold up and how much power i gain with some tuning.

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

how much is that? i was thinking about e-manage for a while but there are many alternatives...

Post by **gani** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

WELL HALTECH WILL RUNN YOU ABOUT 1400 WITHOUT INSTALLATION AND 500BUCKS TO INSTALL IF YOU CANT DO IT YOURSELF BUT I HAVE HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT EMANAGE. I HAVE A FRIEND WITH IT INSTALLED IN AN FD (RX7).

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

well i have heard good things about it too but Dee said it had a problem or something with the ca. Not sure but it seems like a really bad *** system and i already have a laptop to tune it with if i dont feel like getting an e-01 yet.

Post by **CA19DET** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

the problem with the Emanage (ignition timing wasnt working) is now fixed with the software upgrade that they released.

i love the E-Manage. i think its the best piggyback out there,

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

yeah, but i am looking at 400-500 for the full system. Is it worth it to put in another 500-600 to get a standalone? Remember this is a daily driver and it wont see that much track time, but i do want it tuned very very well. I want to get a full emanage system with timing and injector harness as well as the e-0 because i have heard a lot of good things about it. Sound like a good idea?

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

One word. Xede.

Post by **Shnitz** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

i was thinking the same thing about standalones (im sure you are all tired of me by now, haha, probably thinking "what the hell? this joker doesnt even have an engine yet!). my dad has the AEM EMS on his dsm, and it works great, does anyone have experience with that?

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

I dont even have my motor yet either

but im geting it on ebay right now (before you spaz i know the company and they are really reputable and right next door so im not worried about an ebay motor) but im going to want fuel management soon so i was asking about it. And what is Xede, i havnt heard of it/them. Explain and place a price with the name because thats like saying one word, Jun

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Oh and if anyone bids up on that motork, and i find out that they post here, there will be an arse wooping

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Next thing, if i get port and polish, valve seating, new vavle springs and such, like redo the top end, my friend said all the extra compresion up top might blow the rigns or the bottom end? This true? (dee...

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Post by **boost_boy** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Quote »Next thing, if i get port and polish, valve seating, new vavle springs and such, like redo the top end, my friend said all the extra compresion up top might blow the rigns or the bottom end? This true? (dee... )[/quote] Not at all! You can redo the head and leave the bottom end just the way it is.

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Excellent, i love you

, whats your aim name so we can talk some time

Post by **float_6969** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

nab911 wrote:Excellent, i love you , whats your aim name so we can talk some time

The most commonly asked question on the CA forums...

Post by **slw240sx** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

so im not the only one he hides from

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

nab911 wrote:I dont even have my motor yet either but im geting it on ebay right now (before you spaz i know the company and they are really reputable and right next door so im not worried about an ebay motor) but im going to want fuel management soon so i was asking about it. And what is Xede, i havnt heard of it/them. Explain and place a price with the name because thats like saying one word, Jun

http://www.chiptorque.com.au makes em.

http://www.vishnutuning.com/xede_wrx.htm if you want to see what Shiv Pathak thinks about them and also lists some of its features. Much of that is comparison to the unichip, but you'll get the idea.

Post by **boost_boy** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Quote »Excellent, i love you , whats your aim name so we can talk some time[/quote] turb0sentraQuote »so im not the only one he hides from[/quote] Who me?:D

Post by **float_6969** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

You hider-outer you

Post by **nab911** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Do they make a xede for a ca18?

Post by **quest** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

perfectpower.com smt6 piggyback adjusts fuel and timing via laptop. Sold in us with thech help. Costs under $300. Seen some happy users. I plan on using it. Recently saw one ca18det guy tuning with it too.

Post by **dareo** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Where are you finding this thing under 300 bucks?? $782 at the only listed US distributor for the kit.

Post by **Dori Dori** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:31 pm

Yeah, I see $782 as well.:rolleyes

The Xede is $595.00 AUD...that's about $450 usd. It also has twice the tuning resolution (256 vs 128) and it's plug 'n play!

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