Hello,
I have finally settled on my suspension. I have decided to go with TEIN S-Tech springs with the KYB AGX shocks. I have already ordered everything including new strut bellows for front and rear. Now I am wondering if I am in going to need a camber kit. Any input is much appreciated.
Thank you,
My project
90 240sx SEnext mod
brakes, then straight to engine swap
Camber correction?
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your wrong. camber of -2 degrees will cause serious tire wear. anything over about .8 degrees will cause noticable tire wear.CAMBER IS THE MAIN CONCERF FOR TIRE WEAR ON LOWERED VEHICLES. Toe can be adjusted easily regardless of ride hiehgt, camber cannot. Thusly, caber correction is of more importance because you cant adjust it as easily. Camber settings can cause advere tire wear as eaily, if not easier(depending on the car, driving style, etc) than toe.geeze.....mis-information is plentifull.-chet
Ahem, no need to get mad. I am not spreading mis-information, I am speaking from first hand experience and words of many others. Please explain to me why a couple degrees of negative camber would have an adverse affect on tire wear, giving that the toe is set correctly. Talk to any alignment shop that is knowledgable and they will confirm this. To put things in perspective, if a car were to have 0 camber, the tires would wear adversley, unless of course you travel in a straight line everywhere you go....
In conclusion, lowered cars that are daily drivers will not need to get any camber correction kits, just a good alignment will suffice. Camber can still be adjusted to an extent using the stock bolts. I do agree that excessive negative camber would cause tires to wear quickly, no opposition on that subject.
Daniel
In conclusion, lowered cars that are daily drivers will not need to get any camber correction kits, just a good alignment will suffice. Camber can still be adjusted to an extent using the stock bolts. I do agree that excessive negative camber would cause tires to wear quickly, no opposition on that subject.
Daniel
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Exar-Kun wrote:your wrong. camber of -2 degrees will cause serious tire wear. anything over about .8 degrees will cause noticable tire wear.CAMBER IS THE MAIN CONCERF FOR TIRE WEAR ON LOWERED VEHICLES. Toe can be adjusted easily regardless of ride hiehgt, camber cannot. Thusly, caber correction is of more importance because you cant adjust it as easily. Camber settings can cause advere tire wear as eaily, if not easier(depending on the car, driving style, etc) than toe.geeze.....mis-information is plentifull.-chet
I run nearly 3 degrees of negative camber in my front suspension. When I had the tires flipped on the wheels, the tire shop was surprised that even bothered. The difference in tread was slight between the inside and outside tread. My Toe was set dead straight in front. And the only reason I flipped them was because I had to in order to switch them from right to left as I run directional. Camber by itself does not kill tires nearly as quickly as camber with toe. Think of it this way. If a tire rolls perfectly straight with the direction of travel, it does just that. It rolls. But if you add some angle on it, it scrubs. Toe by itself will cause wear faster than camber. Camber by itself does not cause excess wear. Perhaps a very small amount of uneven wear depending on how much camber.
you set your toe dead even? that definately not factory..., but thats another matter. If you take a look at any BMW or mercedes with -1.5 degrees of camber, even if the toe is perfect, it wears the inner edge of the tires. I know how allignments work, I do them every day, and see how it affect the majority of cars every day. I'm speaking from my experince that camber is what most cars have problems with when you examine tire wear. inner edge wear with positive toe is camber wear, things like that. I understand your points but from my perspective of seeing it every day, camber wear is a bigger problem than you think.-chet
Exar-Kun
Well, I do see your point. The thing is I kind of change tires so often. One rear pair one event though. As for front pair, I change them every 3 or 4 months; I usually use Azenis in front.With -3 degree, I do experience slightly wear on inner side of tires but in term of performance, I just really do not care that much.Talk to you later.
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Well, I do see your point. The thing is I kind of change tires so often. One rear pair one event though. As for front pair, I change them every 3 or 4 months; I usually use Azenis in front.With -3 degree, I do experience slightly wear on inner side of tires but in term of performance, I just really do not care that much.Talk to you later.
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Exar-Kun wrote:you set your toe dead even? that definately not factory..., but thats another matter. If you take a look at any BMW or mercedes with -1.5 degrees of camber, even if the toe is perfect, it wears the inner edge of the tires. I know how allignments work, I do them every day, and see how it affect the majority of cars every day. I'm speaking from my experince that camber is what most cars have problems with when you examine tire wear. inner edge wear with positive toe is camber wear, things like that. I understand your points but from my perspective of seeing it every day, camber wear is a bigger problem than you think.-chet
Who said the factory knows the best settings. Frankly, the factory settings caused way too much understeer. But I didn't say it would not cause any additional wear on the inner tread. I said it was minimal. Add toe to that, and I guarantee you'll have no inner tread in 6 months.