Ca18det

Post by **DeathBy240SX** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

Does anyone have any info on this swap?Is it the same procedure preet much as the SR20? I can get one much cheaper than an SR20.

Post by **rb26dett510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

ca18 is the 180sx motor the sr is the silvia motor. different car same chassis so almost the same swap. the ca is .2L less than the sr and the ca is about 40hp shy of the sr

Post by **SR 240Z** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

yea he is right, but i have read that the ca has a stronger head...

sorry this is off topic, but rb26dett510 post pictures of ur swap please???

Post by **Touchdown038** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

Stronger head with stiffer valve springs, but a weaker head gasket.

And yes, please do post pics of that RB26 in the 510.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

i smell..... bull****. he doesnt have a rb in his 510

oh, and to be more specific, the ca18 came in the s12 silvia's, or 200sx in america, japan and such getting the dohc version, U.S. getting the sohc version, then in 89 when they changed to the s13 or 240sx, the ca came in both the silvia and 180sx, till 92 when it was replaced with the sr20

Post by **SR 240Z** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

we just wanna see if this guy can prove it or not... but yea it does sound like bull****

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

if you read his profile his birthdate puts him at the ripe old age of 16.

while i would be glad to see more young datsun enthusiasts like myself(21) i dont want to get a bad rep after all the hard work i have into my car, and research on top of that

Post by **SR 240Z** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

good point

Post by **rb26dett510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

just a name not the swap i have the L16 in my 510

Post by **Altiman94** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

the 180sx came with the sr20det beginning in 1991. From there on out, all 180sx's were sr20 powered. During 1989 and 1990 180sx's were ca18det powered, and that is where their name came from.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

Altiman94 wrote:the 180sx came with the sr20det beginning in 1991. From there on out, all 180sx's were sr20 powered. During 1989 and 1990 180sx's were ca18det powered, and that is where their name came from.

ECHO, ECHO!!

oh, they also cam in the pulsar in 1988-89, non turbothere was also a 1.6 version before thatand a 2.0 sohc version too

Post by **NeedCAforS13** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

lol, don't be an a$$... altiman was just trying to help out :pface

and there IS a CA forum on NICO if anyone wants to read up on the motor itself...

but I think the question goodfelladavey was asking was: how much different is installing a CA18 in a 510 vs. installing an SR20. IIRC they are roughly the same process to install either motor (or even the KA24 if you want!)

Sean

Post by **tenggis** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

hey guys, so the ca18det was last in production in '92? i always liked the 510 and its one of my dream cars but i've never owned or even sat in one. in the near future i'd like to get one and was thinking of swaping a ca18det in it. how much does it weigh vs. the sr20det? thanx

Post by **cosmo** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

tenggis wrote:hey guys, so the ca18det was last in production in '92? i always liked the 510 and its one of my dream cars but i've never owned or even sat in one. in the near future i'd like to get one and was thinking of swaping a ca18det in it. how much does it weigh vs. the sr20det? thanx

They weigh almost the same, I think the CA is actually a few pounds lighter. Not a whole lot though.

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

um, yeah, the ca is lighter. the ca18det was available in the jdm s12(200sx) without intercooler, and went past 91 in europe.

its an easy swap into a 510, and a pain in the tookish at the same time. i have pics in my photo album profile thing. they are kinda old.

Post by **philiminilli** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

ca18datsun510 wrote:um, yeah, the ca is lighter. the ca18det was available in the jdm s12(200sx) without intercooler, and went past 91 in europe.

its an easy swap into a 510, and a pain in the tookish at the same time. i have pics in my photo album profile thing. they are kinda old.

so for other people who wanna do the swap, what are some things that we should watch out for, such as electrical, and fabrication. I am gonna try and do this like everything else i have done to my car, by the seat of my pants and it would help to know a little bit about how to do it first

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

electrical i havent touched yet.

i bought a mount/install kit from maddat motorsports in australia.came with reversed crossmember, big azz front sway bar to fit around rear sump oil pan, trans crossmember, motor mounts, do it yourself top mount turbo manifold, a hat, and a sticker.

still have to shorten the driveshaft, run some sort of fuel system, exhuast etc.

as far as cooling system, i found that a radiator for a 88-91 civic/crx fits, but its kinda wide and messes you up if you want a fmic. i might do side mount so i have gone much farther then that there.

as far as wiring, im trying to hold out for a standalone system.

oh, and you have to cut back the trans tunnel to fit the shifter mount are up into the car. its all pretty easy, but ive done this stuff before. if you've only changed your oil, i wouldnt recomend it.

oh, and most importantly, if you are doing this swap with cost as a motivation, vrs. an sr20, it aint gonna be that much cheaper in the end. i did it cause i like what the ca has to offer in strength and power and such, and its also dimensionally smaller then the sr20, which me lower cg, and it fits easier with more room for stuff such as radiator, intercooler etc. its not really that much smaller though.

any way, im rambling. if you have any specific question, please ask.

Post by **datsunboy** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

CA's are an awesome swap for a 510.and they are actually quite a lot lighter than a SR...The CA is 21kg lighter than the SR ( CA = 128kg, SR = 149kg )

I mounted mine all myself, as I didn't see the point in paying $1000 for the fitting kit when I could do it just as well myself.

you need to reverse the front x-member- most common way is to get the control arm pin bush's cut out and rewelded in backwards, then slightly slotting the holes so it fits back in.then make some custom motor mountscustom g/box mountcustom dump pipecustom sway bar ( the kit ca18datsun 510 got has a 24mm bar over the stock 18mm bar )cut the shifter hole back a bit furthershorten driveshftEFI fuel systemthen everything else as per normal in any conversion

I wired mine up myself, if you know a little bit about electrics, then you'll find it quite easy if you have both wiring diagrams

I see no point in getting a stand alone computer, as the CA ECU is FULLLY re-programmable

top mount turbo is not needed if you have a RHDrive 510

and yeah.....SR swap is virtually the same, except you also need to reverse the bend on the steering link to stop it from hitting the gearbox on full lock.so cost of conversion of both is pretty much the same, aside from the original purchase cost

Post by **ca18datsun510** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

hey datsun boy, i forgot to ask what radiator you are using

i was thinking about the vw radiatore conversion but im not sure how effecient it is for a turbo motor. the crx/civic one fits, but like i said its pretty wide.

Post by **datsunboy** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

lol....havn't got to that bit of the conversion yet.a lot of people use a N13 pulsar radiator, so I guess I'll check that one out first.yeah...don't most people use the VW golf radiator on Z18ET swaps?if so...then the inlet/outlets will be on the right side for a CA.the Z18ET is a turbo engine...but makes a lot less power than a CA

Post by **AelSic** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:49 am

try this linkhttp://home.att.net/~jason510/turbochoice.htm

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