ca18det b12 sentra swap

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pocketrocket
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OK, I've searched, and I know plenty of people have done this, but I couldn't find anything that completely answered my question (or maybe my searching skills are bad ).

I got a b12 sentra with a blown motor, and I want to do this swap. Is this a direct swap? Do motor mounts have to be fabricated or anything?

Also, what transmission should be used, since the sentra is FWD?


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pocketrocket wrote:OK, I've searched, and I know plenty of people have done this, but I couldn't find anything that completely answered my question (or maybe my searching skills are bad ).

I got a b12 sentra with a blown motor, and I want to do this swap. Is this a direct swap? Do motor mounts have to be fabricated or anything?
I don't know and seriously doubt if plenty of people have done the CA swap into a B12, but motor mounts do not have to be fabricated.
pocketrocket wrote: Also, what transmission should be used, since the sentra is FWD?
The transmission of choice is a 1988-89 Nissan Pulsar SE variant or that of a 1987-89 Nissan stanza.[/QUOTE]

Dee

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Thank you. I see you've done the swap on a 90 sentra, so that makes me feel pretty good about your response

So can I use the stock sentra mounts? or use the CA's mounts?Also, why is the pulsar/stanza transmission the "transmission of choice"? (just curious)

I am really wanting to do this swap, and it is my first time with such a large project... I just kinda want to know what I'm getting myself into. Either way its getting done, I just need to metally prepare myself haha.

Thanks a lot

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pocketrocket wrote:Thank you. I see you've done the swap on a 90 sentra, so that makes me feel pretty good about your response

So can I use the stock sentra mounts? or use the CA's mounts?Also, why is the pulsar/stanza transmission the "transmission of choice"? (just curious)

I am really wanting to do this swap, and it is my first time with such a large project... I just kinda want to know what I'm getting myself into. Either way its getting done, I just need to metally prepare myself haha.

Thanks a lot
Dude, I'll be honest with you on the fact that it's not a cake-walk, but I don't want to deter you either. The pulsar and stanza trannies are choice because they are the only ones that have a bellhousing that mates to the CA block. In order to at least mount the engine into the car, you'll need all the pulsar SE's mounts, the pulsar's shift linkage, the pulsar's, clutch pedal and clutch slave/master, pulsar's axles (not the stanza's), and most importantly, someone who knows what in the hell they are doing. I hope this helps...............

Dee

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Well, I'm glad it won't be a cakewalk. I'll learn more with the hardwork and problems and such.. plus i'll appreciate the outcome more.. I'm sure you know about that.

So, basically I need the full transmission from the pulsar, mounts, and axles. This is not a USDM car correct? Any idea where I could snag any of these?

Also, I know a good bit about cars (not a lot by any means), but do you know of a "guide" to help me through the swap?

Thanks again!

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Google a search on the info you seek. I'm very sure you'll find what you need. The pulsar I speak of is indeed a USDM model and there's no particular write-up on it because it's more than one way it can be done, but it's again not a cakewalk.

Dee

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Haha.. I google searched, and it was all you. I guess you are the go-to guy for this particular swap then. Lucky me.

Well, I'm going to see where I can get the ca18det tmic swap for fairly cheap, and my junkyard happens to have a mechanically sound 88 pulsar

Hopefully you don't mind if I come to you with some questions when I start this project. Wiring seems to be the tricky part from what I read from your threads.

Andrew

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pocketrocket wrote:Haha.. I google searched, and it was all you. I guess you are the go-to guy for this particular swap then. Lucky me.

Well, I'm going to see where I can get the ca18det tmic swap for fairly cheap, and my junkyard happens to have a mechanically sound 88 pulsar

Hopefully you don't mind if I come to you with some questions when I start this project. Wiring seems to be the tricky part from what I read from your threads.

Andrew
I'll help you as much as I can, but I'll forewarn you, I used everything from the pulsar to make my DET swaps function back in the day like 1997-2001 and I swapped over to a standalone engine management system and I won't ever go back to burnt chips and the sort, I had JWT re-do the pulsar's ecu to accomodate the turbocharged engine and I few trials and errors, they did just fine. But by all means rattle my cage when you have issues, but keep in mind there are other FWD owners on this forum as well who can possibly assist you as well. Good luck on your search and stay tuned for a nasty CA18DET powered B12 that's near ready for duty once more.

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Check out this car on FA, 600 HP AWD sentra. If he can do it with an SR you can do it with a CA.

http://forums2.nicoclub.com/sh...69587


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Why a reprogrammed ecu? Couldn't you just use the ECU from the CA18DET? A swap from torontojdm.com says it comes with it.

And in my searching, I seem to have run across conflicts with what I actually need for the swap. I took in what you told me:

Pulsar/stanza transmissionPulsar/stanza mountsPulsar axles(Fuel Management System perhaps later)

And a motor swap on TorontoJDM.com comes with:

Engine BlockStandard RWD Transmission (I know I dont' need)ECU (<-would this be a waste?),Alternator,Intake Manifold,Exhaust Manifold,Down Pipe,Starter,Wired Harness,Accessories (SENSORS), TurboIgniterMAF

Is that all that I would need? Any of that stuff I don't need?

Thanks for the help, VERY much appreciated

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mbmbmb23 wrote:Check out this car on FA, 600 HP AWD sentra. If he can do it with an SR you can do it with a CA.

http://forums2.nicoclub.com/sh...69587
Hmm.. can't get that page to come up.. right link?From reading, I've heard the SR is a much harder swap though. I think this one will be difficult enough, but not too much out of reach. I'm determined!

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pocketrocket wrote:Why a reprogrammed ecu? Couldn't you just use the ECU from the CA18DET? A swap from torontojdm.com says it comes with it.

And in my searching, I seem to have run across conflicts with what I actually need for the swap. I took in what you told me:

Pulsar/stanza transmissionPulsar/stanza mountsPulsar axles(Fuel Management System perhaps later)

And a motor swap on TorontoJDM.com comes with:

Engine BlockStandard RWD Transmission (I know I dont' need)
CorrectECU (<-would this be a waste?),[/QUOTE]No, but I never used the RWD computer on my FWD car.Alternator,[/QUOTE] You can't use it unless you eliminate your P/S.Intake Manifold,[/QUOTE] You can use it, but you'll have to move the TB to the other end (not hard).Exhaust Manifold,[/QUOTE] I wouldn't use it, but you can.Down Pipe,[/QUOTE] Can't really say on this one because I've never used this set-up on the FWD car.Starter,[/QUOTE] Sell it and get one from the pulsar.Wired Harness,[/QUOTE]You can use it, but you need to know what you're doing.Accessories (SENSORS),[/QUOTE] You can use them. Turbo[/QUOTE] You can use it.Igniter[/QUOTE] You can use it.MAF[/QUOTE] You can use it.

Is that all that I would need? Any of that stuff I don't need?

Thanks for the help, VERY much appreciated [/QUOTE] I'll answer more when I get back from London.

Dee

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boost_boy wrote:ECU - No, but I never used the RWD computer on my FWD car[\I]
Ahh, OK, thats why the reflash is necessary. I will keep that in mind.

Quote »Alternator - You can't use it unless you eliminate your P/S[/quote]What should I use? The pulsars?

Quote »Intake manifold - You can use it, but you'll have to move the TB to the other end (not hard)[/quote]So, the inlet would become the outlet and vice versa.

Quote »Exhaust Manifold - I wouldn't use it, but you can.Down Pipe - Can't really say on this one because I've never used this set-up on the FWD car.[/quote]Isn't the exhaust manifold needed? I'm guessing I'll need to use an aftermarket downpipe for FWD vehicles, or just get a custom one made for me.

Quote »Wired Harness - You can use it, but you need to know what you're doing.[/quote]What would be the easiest route to take for this, as I've seen many different solutions online, and this appears to be the trickiest part of the swap?

No rush at all, enjoy London. Hope its not too many questions, but hopefully this will be a good thread for people like me.


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