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Ok guys

Here goes im currently building up a ca with a spun bearing

iv got my rebuild kit but the engine set was missing some stuff

i need a ca harness and a recommendation on a good turbo also a ecu or after market replacement im looking for 250 300 hp which should be fine on the rebuild kit im getingaccording to the guys at the website its good to more then that they say 500hp and 10krpm but i dont think so im thinking it should be good enuff for my power goal thanks if anyone has these parts shoot me a line BTW Sorry if this is in the wrong section but im geting no love in the other places i posted it like the classifieds section

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300 hp you have a few option turbo wise. That would be pretty much maxing out a T28. GT28RS if thats your only goal. The lines plot out nicely on a GT2871r.

I'd stick with stock ECU or go with Apex'i PowerFC D-Jetro because it switches to a MAP sensor.

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im sorry im new to turbos could you maybe recommend a good brand ?

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Garrett.

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Good luck finding a D-Jetro PFC for a CA. You can contact Rhombus Tuning (http://www.yellowmunsontuning.com) for a SR to CA conversion harness and run a PFC for an SR.

For that power level, look at a GT2860R (formerly GT28R aka stock S15 Silvia turbo), some cams (I like Tomei 264 Poncams), and supporting air flow and fuel modifications. That is well within what a stock motor can handle.

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rico05 wrote:Good luck finding a D-Jetro PFC for a CA. You can contact Rhombus Tuning (http://www.yellowmunsontuning.com) for a SR to CA conversion harness and run a PFC for an SR.

For that power level, look at a GT2860R (formerly GT28R aka stock S15 Silvia turbo), some cams (I like Tomei 264 Poncams), and supporting air flow and fuel modifications. That is well within what a stock motor can handle.
What would supporting air and fuel mods be ?? i allready have the walboro 255lph installed what size injectors would you recomend with that setup

thanks in advance dude cant wait to turn this thread into a build thread

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Man there were no less than four CA18 Power FC's on ebay last week. I have no idea why people say they are hard to find... They are however quite expensive. For a grand I could think of better engine management systems.

Go with a bigger turbo than the GT2860. I agree with the 2871R, its capable of making much more power with just a little more lag than the 2860R. The 2860 will be getting out of its efficiency range to make 300hp.

You'll need some 550-600cc injectors, intake, exhaust, FMIC, an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and a tune.

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how would poncams effect the car ?? would they make it easier to get that number ? thanks for all the information

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yeah i know what you mean im either thinking of haltech or the aem ems whats your opinion of these ? but the apexi unit does sound kinda coo to

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you need a harness and an ECU........

go megasquirt and be done with it.

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thing about megasquirt is that you have to build it yourself i like the idea of just plugging something in then having my friends shop tune it for me

so any answer on the poncams ??

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I not familiar with the poncams but i would not cam the CA. the bottom end of the rpm already sucks.

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sorry there the tomei poncams and it says it does not effect the lower end torque of the ca just enhances the whole power curve from what i can tell there a drop in no shims or solid lifters required and they dont seem to need like any bigger injectors or anything like that ? so just curiouse if anyones used em

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As far as engine management, I would suggest doing a little research first. I am not saying use the search button, but they all have strengths and weaknesses. AEMs units can run you 2k quickly. Apexis D-Jetro units can also be costly (1.3k-1.8k, depending on which site you find them on).

I chose to go with AP Apexi Power FC (an SR PFC modified by AP Engineering to work for the CA18DET). My power goal is similar to yours at the moment and I have a laundry list of things to install/rebuild (I don't want it to blow up). If you want me to share my list with you, send me an email or something and I will be glad to send you some of my saved websites for reading and browsig purposes.

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i would love your list man im starting my build here in another week or so

let me send you some links of stuff ive found to

frsports has the s15 turbos new in the box from nissan so theres that taken care of they also have new bearings and gaskit kits to

and then there is this one site that has a compelte rebuild kit with new pistons and everything for like $915 USD i dont know how complete a rebuild i want to do but i want it to be reliable

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Check out forcedperformance.com, they have some options that you may like for some pretty good deals. I have a bit of a laundry list here in the house. I will try to tally it all up and post it up in the very near future (just lazy right now).

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I have extensivley researched the usage of aftermarket management systems and had numerous discussions about this topic on other forums.

I believe there are three reasons for using aftermarket management:

1 - The modifications you have performed leave you absolutely no choice but to use an aftermarket mangement system.

2 - You cannot find a decent tuner who can remap stock ecu's in your country or at least general geographic area.

2 - You have to win races, no matter what genre, to fulfill expectations of sponsors. You will be fine tuning after every meet, or at least more than four or five times a year.

It is your green, don't get me wrong, you can do what you will with it.

However, if you do not fall into one of these categories, I firmly believe you are going to be wasting good cash that can be put into other performance areas, or at least back into your pocket.

I am currently rebuilding my CA again, with an extensive amount of work being performed including a nitrous setup and I am still going to use a remapped stock ecu.

Hope this helps you somehow...

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I am personally gonna do the ecu tune-at home kit. I will buy an eeprom, a connector for it, and a burner, and I will find and/or make my own maps and change my own settings. For cheap. And as for a wiring harness, get an unmolested ka harness and PROPERLY and patiently convert it to your liking.

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so the thing is i dont have a ca harness with my motorset because im building a set i got from a friend im wondering do you mean i could just convert my 240sx harness to work ? and i think stock ecu with a tune sounds good im just not sure if i buy a larger turbo larger injectors and some cams along the way it would still be good enuff to make sure i dont blow myself up

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As long as you plan ahead correctly and buy your upgrades in the right order and matched properly, you should never have a problem. And yes, you could convert a ka24DE harness, it is just like converting it over for an sr20. If you have a harness for a ka24E (SOHC instead of double) it will work too, just a little more difficult.

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will i need any of the connectors from the old ca harness ?? or are all the plugs the same ?

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Ok so i got the Engine and trans home today

Its headed to the machine shop after i clean it up and break it down to the block i will be posting pics soon

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keep both harnesses, you will need connectors and you will need some extra wires, shielded and not, to add a couple of sensors to the ecu harness.

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fairzdrift wrote:im sorry im new to turbos could you maybe recommend a good brand ?
have u considered a GT30 instead of the T28...u urself said u might get more stuff along the way...why not give urself a higher limit level so u dont stress to much about pushing ur smaller turbo to much... u could reach 300HP no probs with a T30...

just stay away from t3's and t4's...china turbo's...ive seen so many of them wrecked withing there respected ''limit''

im going Garret all the way...t28 or 30 ...still debating...

someone mentioned a rebuild kit for 900+...were...ill buy that...

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Here is the link to the kit im geting

Complete Gasket SetCopper/MLS Head GasketWiseco Forged Pistons (83, 83.5, 84mm Bore) and (8.5, 8.8:1 compression)

JE Piston Upgrade available for addt'l $49 Plasma Moly RingsPerformance Wrist PinsTOGA HP Main BearingsTOGA HP Rod BearingsFreeze Plugs

http://www.importperformancepa....html

its the number ten special !

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i HATE! DOGS

My so im loading the engine on my engine stand

and my brothers dog decides now would be a good time to jump on me right as im undoing everything so im stuck holding a short block ca with no support and just got bowled over buy a **** 100 pound mutt and i only weigh 155 you do the math lol i hate DOGS ! if i had my choice i would have droped the engine on this stupid thing instead i dropped it on my leg or more half lowered it onto the floor i dont think anything broke but we will see for now im going to the emergency room hope everyone is having a better night then me

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I think hes suggesting a n-62 or z32 MAF and larger injectors.

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so engine survived the fall i guess ! me to for that matter but i would have been pissed if the block was messed up it will be a week till i start ordering parts untill then i get the fun of cleaning


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