Bye Bye Liver... Never drinking again.

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Hey.....

Been feeling kinda funny lately, so I decided to go to the Doc. After blood work, its found that I am having serious liver problems.

Liver has always been bad. Used to drink like a fish in High school, straight everclear and 151. But after they found holes in my liver, I was told I had to never drink again.

So I didnt drink for one whole year. Nothing. Not a friggen beer.

Since then, I have had a beer here and there, a couple of liquid cocaines, and not much more there.

Now supposedly, its not getting any better. Still have elevated tryglicerides (which explains sluggishness and fatasstedness) and elevated hormones. Supposedly I may never drink again, take tylenol, or smoke base.

Maybe I shouldnt have done all of those drugs.... Nah!!!


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dumbass...

well, it'll come down to the choice of what's more important I guess, living or puking and passing out only to have some guy teabag you...

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Sorry to hear that. Not really much to say than I hope the best for you and your liver. I guess the things in the pat directly effect your future.

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yeah man, i know people who have had the same problems, dont drink anymore, its not worth it

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scerosis can be a bad bad thing. avoid it.

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I had first signs of cirrosis at 18 yrs old.

Partied real hard, real young.

I date older women alot, and they usually say that I havent gone through enough to act the way I do. They just dont know.

I have done my partying, and I am so done with that. Just want to succeed in life and head towards my ultimate goal.

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I'm glad I got my two solid years of binge drinking out of the way before going back to college. I feel like I suffered minor brain damage more than anything else.

I didnt touch everclear until this year. Its eerie what happens to ice in a shot glass full of everclear... I think I'll stay away from the stuff for a while.

Its also interesting how boring getting drunk became (mostly) once I turned 21.

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Jesda wrote: I didnt touch everclear until this year. Its eerie what happens to ice in a shot glass full of everclear... I think I'll stay away from the stuff for a while.
What does it do?? It never touched anything but my lips.....
Jesda wrote: Its also interesting how boring getting drunk became (mostly) once I turned 21.

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so true about getting drunk...

now it's merely amusing to get tipsy in bars and make an *** in front of women...

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Jesda wrote:I didnt touch everclear until this year. Its eerie what happens to ice in a shot glass full of everclear... I think I'll stay away from the stuff for a while.
It freaked me out when I took my first shot of everclear. I have never had alcohol turn into a vapor as I shot it.
Jesda wrote:Its also interesting how boring getting drunk became (mostly) once I turned 21.
I hear you on that. Maybe it's the fact that it's not illegal for me to be drinking. Plus I get my kicks out of racing, and I'd rather not be drunk or hungover before an autocross.
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I generally agree with M1der on this one. It's about priorities. I enjoy drinking just as much as the next guy in his early 20s, but when you're in a situation such as yours, it's just a matter of what's more important. A short blurry euphoric life or a healthy long(er) life. Hope you choose wisely.

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Agghh, your scaring me, I've drank very heavily with my friends at college for the past 4 yrs (like 3-5 days a week) plus some in high school. And yes once you turn 21 it does start to suck, that's why you go to the bars get as trashed as possible and then see who can make the biggest a** out of themselves in front of the plus size ladies. The sluggishness fatassedness part, sounds real familiar. I was real fit when I came to college and gained like 55lbs since, and have no energy ever. Just curious how long you've been drinking and if your liver can recover. Don't think I want to go to the doctor any time soon after hearing that.

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Long-Term Health Problems

Some problems can occur after drinking over a relatively short period of time. But other problems—such as liver disease, heart disease, certain forms of cancer, and pancreatitis—often develop more gradually and may become evident only after many years of heavy drinking. Women may develop alcohol-related health problems sooner than men, and from drinking less alcohol than men. Because alcohol affects nearly every organ in the body, long-term heavy drinking increases the risk for many serious health problems, some of which are described below.

Alcohol-related liver disease. More than 2 million Americans suffer from alcohol-related liver disease. Some drinkers develop alcoholic hepatitis, or inflammation of the liver, as a result of heavy drinking over a long period of time. Its symptoms include fever, jaundice (abnormal yellowing of the skin, eyeballs, and urine), and abdominal pain. Alcoholic hepatitis can cause death if drinking continues. If drinking stops, the condition may be reversible. About 10 to 20 percent of heavy drinkers develop alcoholic cirrhosis, or scarring of the liver. People with cirrhosis should not drink alcohol. Although treatment for the complications of cirrhosis is available, a liver transplant may be needed for someone with life-threatening cirrhosis. Alcoholic cirrhosis can cause death if drinking continues. Cirrhosis is not reversible, but if a person with cirrhosis stops drinking, the chances of survival improve considerably. People with cirrhosis often feel better, and liver function may improve, after they stop drinking. About 4 million Americans are infected with hepatitis C virus (HCV), which can cause liver cirrhosis and liver cancer. Some heavy drinkers also have HCV infection. As a result, their livers may be damaged not only by alcohol but by HCV-related problems as well. People with HCV infection are more susceptible to alcohol-related liver damage and should think carefully about the risks when considering whether to drink alcohol.

Heart disease. Moderate drinking can have beneficial effects on the heart, especially among those at greatest risk for heart attacks, such as men over the age of 45 and women after menopause. However, heavy drinking over a long period of time increases the risk for heart disease, high blood pressure, and some kinds of stroke.

Cancer. Long-term heavy drinking increases the risk of certain forms of cancer, especially cancer of the esophagus, mouth, throat, and larynx (voice box). Research suggests that, in some women, as little as one drink per day can slightly raise the risk of breast cancer. Drinking may also increase the risk for developing cancer of the colon and rectum.

Pancreatitis. The pancreas helps regulate the body’s blood sugar levels by producing insulin. The pancreas also has a role in digesting the food we eat. Long-term heavy drinking can lead to pancreatitis, or inflammation of the pancreas. Acute pancreatitis can cause severe abdominal pain and can be fatal. Chronic pancreatitis is associated with chronic pain, diarrhea, and weight loss.

If you or someone you know has been drinking heavily, there is a risk of developing serious health problems. Because some of these health problems can be treated, it is important to see a doctor for help. Your doctor will be able to advise you about your health and your drinking.__________________________________________________________Sucks huh? Well, it's not keeping me from drinking... but it does make you think. Maybe you should have a nice frilly Mai Thai instead of an Everclear on the rocks next time Just be responsible!

- Chris

P.S. - Last I heard there was no clinical evidence that tetra-hydra-cannabinol, the second most popular intoxicant in the US, caused ANY of the above conditions.

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That definatly sucks. I never drank at all really until I went to college, I was a good kid in HS. I drank semi heavily for a little while, but I tend not to get TOO drunk very often. I enjoy kicking back on a beer or two because I actually like good beer, not always to get drunk.

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simple solution to alot of drinking problems. don't binge. I drink a glass of wine a day though. I usually try to avoid more than that unless I'm getting a friend drunk. Then that's when my priority shifts to drinking them drunk lol

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Well, I dont really drink much anymore. I have taken a couple here and ther, but never like I used to. After that year, my tolerance went down and I still havent gotten shtfaced since the doc said to stop.

But when I went this time, they said it was as bad as when I was drinking. That it is not getting better. I have been feeling weirder and weirder all day, with cold sweats, loss of appetite, and I get pretty tired after sex.

This sux. I really wanted to start working out and dieting again, but the Doc said that I shouldnt change this so drastic all of a sudden because I might have an odd reaction.

Im gonna diet but not workout this week, and then Do both nxt week. Finally got the car running, so I have to get all sexy and start picking up chicks.

Thanks for all the concern guys. Have a couple for me......

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I tend to be a drinkier. I take spells for a month or two to not drink any, and then usually have me a fifth.

Matter of fact, I will be getting juiced up Saturday, at a costume party. I hear there are going to be some kick butt costumes. And drunk females. The ladies love the tequila.

Anyway, I figure after i get out of this line of work, I will slack off a whole lot. I just tend to want a stiff shot or four after a stressfull night.

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heh...drinkier. I'm drinkier that all y'all!!

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Sorry to hear about your liver problems. I hope it does not cause problems in the future.

To everybody else: amazing what a bit of age does to your priorities later in life! When one is young, we feel that we are invincible. yet, it is often too late when we realize that the choices we made in our late teen years affect us decades later!

It often comes as a complete shock and surprise when we get old enough to discover that our parents (among other "old fogies") were right when they told us to avoid doing some things!

As one of the oldest here on this board, I try to avoid preaching about what to do and not to do, and I will try to avoid it as much as possible here too. So, I will merely ask everyone to just think about what they would like to do/become/live/achieve years and decades from now, and then only do/act/feel/say/live those actions today that results in those longer term desires. Anything else will merely cause regrets later!

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It's a shame that it had to come to your liver starting to fail on you to give you a wake-up call. Thats the only organ in the body that can regenerate-- hopefully for you, you'll stop for good this time. Best of luck to you.

As for the other comments, I truly feel sorry for people who have nothing better to do than to drink. I only had to get drunk once to realize how much it sucks. I have better **** to do with my time.

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Never been drunk, although I have had a few drinks at social gatherings. The idea of puking my guts out just doesn't allure me for some reason...I wonder why.

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Drunk doesn't mean puking by any means. That has to do with who's drinking and how aware of their limits they are (and how much they care). This obvioulsy quite often works on the basis of age. Tonight, I shall be gettin sloshed. It's my buddies 21st birthday, and the parties at my house. I don't have to walk more than 5 ft when I decide to crash

DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE!!!(trust me, DUI's suck, and that's the best that can happen to you)

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szhosain wrote:To everybody else: amazing what a bit of age does to your priorities later in life! When one is young, we feel that we are invincible. yet, it is often too late when we realize that the choices we made in our late teen years affect us decades later!
My thing was not that I was invincible, it was that I never planed on living past 25. I was pretty amazed when I actually got there and hadn't done something stupid and died. Wasnt for lack of trying, most on here have heard my tales of my motorcycle riding days, or motorcycle crashing days.

Now you are forced to deal with those foolish choices and life styles, when you start getting my age (28). Health problems, as well as not being able to get around like I should be able to.


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