BWD Injectors update?

Post by **dnudelman** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:08 pm

I am considering a set of 8 BWD's for my 94. I have scoured this site as well as the net but don't see any recent posts on how the BWD's are working out for those using them. Guys, If you are using BWD's please post a comment,
Thanks
David

Post by **United EC** » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:40 pm

I have installed BWD injectors in the past and would do so again if I had to. BWD is a great brand and makes outstanding product. Wouldn't think it twice. Hope this helps!

Post by **OwnerCS** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:05 pm

The Black Dots I installed in 2010 are still running beautifully.

Post by **dnudelman** » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:43 pm

there are 2 part numbers FJ283 and FJ284. Any preference?

Post by **OwnerCS** » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:28 pm

The ones I used were BWD 57676 for a 94 model. I can't find enough information about FJ283 or FJ284 to draw a conclusion.

Did you contact Deatschwerks.com in OKC? I think DW remarkets BWD injectors. I noticed some members get a good price on BWD injectors from DW.

Post by **Infinitiguy19** » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:53 pm

I am pretty sure I installed a phase one purple top BWD injector in my car. So far its good.

Post by **dnudelman** » Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:05 pm

Did a little more research, FJ284 is the Standard Motor products part number for BWD 57676. Same company/Same website. looks like different branding for different retailers.

Thanks guys.

Post by **dana0330** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:46 pm

Hi David,

I am parting out my Q45 and I have a set of Deatshwerks injectors that are a few years old but have low miles I am looking to sell them I would like to get about $450 for the set I have the box that they came in. I bought a set of 8 rebuilt injectors when I got the car 4 years ago and they started to go bad in less than a year so I bought the Deatshwerks set and they are ok I also got the brackes to make them fit in my 92.

Thanks Dana

Post by **BCC93QT** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:58 pm

I can vouch for Deatshwerks. My injectors have seen over 100k miles of thorough abuse and they are still flawless

Post by **dnudelman** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:57 am

thanks, but I already purchased bwd's.

Post by **Q451990** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:43 pm

Mine are still working fine. Installed in 2008 but not many miles in service... maybe 10K?

Heath

Post by **dnudelman** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:01 pm

My ebay injectors arrived to today. seller claimed BWD/SMP with photo of purple top.

I received 8 new injectors, no packaging.
Grey Tops
Part number A46-f36. Made in Japan JECS mark on the side
They look new, no sign of wear, no smell of gas, paper sticker on connector says "B"
Ohm test 11.3 ohms

A google search including Nico list a post that someone pulled an injector with the same part number out of a 94 Q45.
Can anyone ID this injector, it does look identical the BWD part for the 94 Q45.
I will be calling bwd in the morning and have emailed the seller asking for proof.

thanks
David

Post by **Q451990** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:22 pm

JECS was a joint venture between Nissan and Bosch. The abbreviation was for Japan Electrical Control Systems. From what I can tell they were bought out in 2002 by Hitachi, but are still a major supplier to Nissan.

Here's an ebay listing that shows that same marking on the top of a used injector.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/93-94-95-96-OEM ... 5f&vxp=mtr

I'd be a little concerned that you're getting "remanufactured" (aka cleaned) used injectors, but you've seen the packaging and have a better idea about that...

Heath

Post by **dnudelman** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:30 pm

Yes, I had my doubts. The ebay seller immediately agreed to take the JECS injectors back and promised he would send me "New" ones. So I sent them back today. We shall see......

Post by **dnudelman** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:56 pm

Update,
The Ebay seller refunded my payment. They offered to ship another set, but not interested. I picked up a set of SMP FJ284 from Rock Auto for $57 each, still a good price. SMP is the same as BWD, just a different box. They arrived in factory packaging, definitely brand new. They get installed next week.

Post by **OwnerCS** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:02 pm

Glad to hear it worked out.

Post by **maxnix** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:04 am

Bill Johnston of www.mrinjector.us will refurbish your injectors with new seals after cleaning them and flow testing them. Not only that, he will pressure check them unlike some others who advertise on this board.

All for much less than $57 per injector.

Post by **dnudelman** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:17 am

maxnix wrote:Bill Johnston of http://www.mrinjector.us will refurbish your injectors with new seals after cleaning them and flow testing them. Not only that, he will pressure check them unlike some others who advertise on this board.

All for much less than $57 per injector.

I've got a local guy who can do the same, but thats not why these failed. The coils failed presumbably due to ethanol degredation. You can't re-build the coils. So the long term solution would be replace all 8 injectors with NEW or roll the dice on replacing them as they fail.

Post by **BCC93QT** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:31 pm

You're preaching to the choir on injectors. Replacing all 8 of course is the best route. Refurbishing failed injectors will certainly lead you back to the same route. Your injectors failed due to ethanol as you are aware. With first hand experience my DW injectors have seen over 120k miles with no flaws while running gas with ethanol and no gas tank treatments. If you are trying to save a couple of bucks on refurbished injectors or different sources I suggest not. Honestly I would make an offer to dana0330 on the DW injectors. That is a steal for 8 of those injectors.

dnudelman wrote:I've got a local guy who can do the same, but thats not why these failed. The coils failed presumbably due to ethanol degredation. You can't re-build the coils. So the long term solution would be replace all 8 injectors with NEW or roll the dice on replacing them as they fail.

Coils? Coils failing on this version are few and far between. I am guessing you meant to say injectors.

Post by **dnudelman** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:38 pm

BCC93QT wrote:
Coils? Coils failing on this version are few and far between. I am guessing you meant to say injectors.

yes the solenoid coil in the neck of the injector that moves the pindle.

Post by **dana0330** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:36 pm

I bought a set from Rock Auto they did not last when they say they rebuild them they make them look new put the problem is the plastic on the coils melt because of the alcohol in the fuel, and most of the rebuilt injectors are still bad. I bought the DW injectors because they can withstand the alcohol in the fuel. I had to learn the hard way and bought 2 sets.

Post by **dnudelman** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:43 pm

I picked up the car from the shop today. They mechanic was an independent recommended by Felton's (used Infiniti parts) in Lake Stevens, WA.

They did:
Injectors
Knock sensors and harness
both valve cover gaskets
spark plugs
fuel filter
upper radiator hose
(all other hoses in great shape)

all for their quote of 8 hours labor.

The car is running great.
Thanks everyone for your help and comments,
David

Post by **OwnerCS** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:10 am

Again, we're glad it worked out.

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