bulbs, bulbs, and more bulbs!!!!

[qship96]

Bulbs are rated in hours, not years. Obviously you do not drive much at night? Fact remains Sylvania silverstars have a extremely short rated lifespan compared to their normal bulbs, and according to their own specs as shown in their charts, give off the exact same candlepower as their regular bulbs- light "looks" brighter/whiter because of the blue tinted glass-an optical illusion that tricks the eye.

[qship96]

Update, all bulbs installed in first post of this thread are still working as of today {21 months and 37,000 miles of use so far}

[lino]

Thank you for the update

[Infinitiguy19]

Yesterday I did some work on the Q and Today I get in and start it up. I get a "Stop Lamp Inoperative" message on the diagnostic display. I assumed it had to do with what I was doing yesterday but that wasn't it so I move over to the tail lights and check them and what do you know one is out and the other three are sort of white colored.

So I called up Candle Power INC. and I asked them what they have and they said they have one bulb that's too bright and would burn stuff up (Motor Cycle only bulb?) and the other one they have is not DOT approved. But he did say the bulbs I have in there now (Sylvania. Long Life (LL) are dimmer to provide a longer life.

So I don't mind the cost of the bulbs (Compared to safety) I just want something that will last longer than a year and be as bright as OEM if not brighter in both the tail and stop lamp applications.

I will look into the differences between LL bulbs and non LL bulbs from Sylvania.

[qship96]

"Long life "bulbs are never a wise choice if you value visibility over lifespan,as they are only providing the longer life in exchange for less lumens. Paul, if you are looking for the brighter tail/brake/rear turn signal bulbs that I mentioned in my first post of this thread to replace the 1156 and 1157 stock bulbs, they are still available, but candlepower can no longer get the good ones {Stanley brand}......I can steer you to someone who has them if you are interested though.

PS, all the individual bulbs I installed in my first post are still working,and I have put over 60,000 miles on the car since then.

[Infinitiguy19]

Please let me know who has those 1156 and 1157 bulbs. The ones they offer use the same Watts as the stock bulbs or do they get hotter?

[qship96]

Read my last paragraph of the first post in this thread again for the details........the only place that still carries the high quality Stanley brand bulbs {the ones I used} is a rather large retailer...............ready? it is...........your local Honda dealer parts department.About $5 each.

Honda part # 34903-SF1-A01 for the single filament bulb {turn signal, backup bulb,etc}
Honda part number #34906-SL0-A01 for the dual filament bulb {brake/tail,etc}

Exact same wattage as stock, much more actual light output, and nickel base to prevent corrosion.

[Infinitiguy19]

Jeez I don't know...Honda parts in a Q...Damn the world must be coming to an end.

I called them and they have the bulb in stock. Thanks Qship!

[qship96]

think of them as STANLEY parts, not Honda, as thats what they actually are! Are you going to replace all the tail/stop/rear turn signal bulbs together {I would}

Might as well get an extra 2 of the single filament style ones for the reverse lights while you are there!

[Infinitiguy19]

How can we identify the Stanley bulbs from any other bulbs they sell? I also forgot to ask the parts guy but do the Stanley use the same exact Watts as OEM (27 to be exact)?

For now though I will replace just the one because he has 8 in stock of the #34906-SL0-A01 and he says he can order the # 34903-SF1-A01.

[qship96]

The stanleys have a nickel {bright silver chrome looking} base and have STANLEY engraved in the nickel.Candlepower {and others} used to sell these,now they can only get the cheap chinese crap with brass colored bases..........Honda is the last place I know that has access to genuine Stanley bulbs.

YES they are the same wattage as stock bulbs, but produce about 35% more light.....if your other bulbs are "white and cloudy" as you posted, replace them all,as in that condition they are even dimmer than new stock ones.

[OwnerCS]

Thanks for the info.. I'll be looking to upgrade lighting for some night driving the Q now.

Let me tell you a horror story about some Sylvania bulbs I was using on the Ridgeline.

A couple of years ago, I drove the Ridgeline to a club meet in Memphis. So this is an all day February meet that lasted from 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM. Near the end the group caravans out to some park for line up pictures. So everybody had to turn on their headlights. Then I noticed one of the headlights was out. So one of the members had an extra bulb and we replaced it right there on the spot. I had driven over to Memphis before dawn that morning and both lights were working on the way over..

Later I was following another member out of the parking lot and he stopped in front of me to let me know the other headlight had burned out. I couldn't believe it. Two bulbs burning out within a couple of hours. So I drive to some auto parts store and bought another bulb and replaced it. I think I had those bulbs for about a year before both burned out. I'm glad I one of the members had a spare bulb as I might have found myself on the way back from Memphis that night when both bulbs burned out. I though about some exact bulb life design for both to fail on the same trip.

When I returned I replaced both bulbs with some cheap GE bulbs from Wal*Mart -- that have been running for a couple of years..

I bet some of the bulbs in the Q are the factory originals -- so I'm sure it can benefit from a bulb replacement.

[qship96]

The absolute,best performing,most lumens at stock wattage bulbs, BAR NONE for the 90-93 Q remain the Hir 1 #9011 for the high beam and hir 2 #9012 for the low beam. your stock low beam will go from 1000 lumens to 1875 lumens per bulb, and your highs will go from 1700 lumens to 2350-2500 lumens per bulb.

Toshiba has discontinued production and their 9012 is no longer available,but Philips has bought the technology and has slightly improved the bulb, the Toshiba 9011 is still available.....both can be found at Candlepower, web address posted earlier in this thread.

Dont be fooled by any other mass marketed junk with fancy names or colored glass.......NONE will match the actual output of the above choices,none.

[Infinitiguy19]

When your right your right...I might as well replace them all. I will report back tomorrow.

[Infinitiguy19]

Went to the local Honda Dealer (Much nicer than the Local Infiniti Dealer, They have a buffet). They only had one in stock so it wasn't a waste of a trip but I would have rather had 6.

The Stanley bulbs use a different outline for the glass but I am sure two (1990-1993 Q45's) will fit.

Thanks Qship for the information, You are invaluable to the forum!

[qship96]

Thanks Paul! Do the bulbs still have "stanley" and their candlepower ratings on them? They are the last of the quality bulbs, even the Sylvania branded #3496 & #3497 are now made in China!

[OwnerCS]

Went to the local Honda Dealer (Much nicer than the Local Infiniti Dealer, They have a buffet). They only had one in stock so it wasn't a waste of a trip but I would have rather had 6.

The Stanley bulbs use a different outline for the glass but I am sure two (1990-1993 Q45's) will fit.

Thanks Qship for the information, You are invaluable to the forum!

You've got a Honda dealer (Bernardi) in your area that I think will beat any part or accessory price in the country. For example, the rest of the country was selling 100,000 mile warranty packages for V6 models at around $1,200 while Bernardi was selling the packages over the internet (to anyone with a qualifying model) for around $775. It must have been a couple of years ago when there was a huge dealer uproar around the country about Bernardi's razor thin margin internet pricing on accessories, parts, and extended warranty packages.

[Infinitiguy19]

HIR bulb info for 1990-1993 Q45's:

http://shnu.us/HIR%20Trimming%20Stock.htm
http://www.hirheadlights.com/FAQs.htm
http://store.candlepower.com/9011hir.html
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954736

[qship96]

Paul,have you bought these yet? Great upgrade in light output.Toshiba no longer makes either the 9012 or the 9011 any longer.....but Philips does,with the same great output.Amazon sells both cheaper than any other online place I have seen.

By the way,every one of the bulbs I installed when I originally started this thread are still working!!!!! Zero burn outs or other problems to date.

[Infinitiguy19]

I want to buy all new lights for the car from Candle Power. I will let you know how it goes when I get them.

[Q451990]

I'm seeing some notes about the HIR2 (9012) that would replace the 9006 low beams not having the painted tip. Have those of you running the HIR's had any issues with that in terms of getting flashed by oncoming traffic / traffic stops, etc?

Heath

[qship96]

correct,none of the 9012 have the painted tip on the bulb like the 9006 does.In vehicles whose headlamp assemblies do not have a built in "cap" glare shield, there can be some glare thrown forward from the bulb.Since, I do not have a 90-93Q,I am not sure of the design,as the 94-96 takes a H4 instead of a 9006/9012. Our Highlander does take a 9006/9012,and has the built in cap/shield,and have been running the HIR 9012 in there for about 4 years now,phenominal increase in light with zero glare/blinding issues.Lumens jumped from 1000 stock with the 9006 to aprox 1875 with the 9012,a full 87% increase in light output for the exact same wattage draw.

[ph34r]

Are you using the Osram Rallye bulbs in the H4? Making my order and want to make sure I get the correct one.

[qship96]

Yes.

[Infinitiguy19]

I did more research and saw that using HIR bulbs with out a light blocker of some sort in a car not made for them is like using HID bulbs in lens without a projector. Basically you would be blinding on coming drivers.

[qship96]

Paul,not on the high beam position bulb {9011,hir1} On the low beam bulb which is the hir2 9012 you are correct,it should only be used if your current headlamp includes a built in bulb shield like our Highlander and many other cars have.....you would need to look into the 90-93Q headlamp and see if it has a built in shield that covers the tip portion of the low beam bulb.Report back so we know,will you?

[Q451990]

My 90 (so I assume all 90-93s) have a sheld, but there's a nickel sized hole in the front of it - where I see the painted tip of my current 9006 bulb. So I guess the upgrading the 9005 to a 9011(HIR1) on the high beam side is only "correct" option. I'd be tempted to put the 9012 (HIR2) in on the low beams and see if I get flashed. Compared to everything else on the road these days, I bet I would never get flashed...

Heath

[ph34r]

Got my order the other day and took some side by sides. Not the greatest quality pictures, but you can see how much better the upgraded bulbs are.
Headlights and running lights. (Osram Rally - Stock)


Tail lights, no brake.(Candlepower - Stock)


Tail lights, brake.(Candlepower - Stock)


Fog lights and side markers going in tonight.

[Infinitiguy19]

Did you check to make sure that the brake/tail light bulbs are okay for use in automobiles? When I called they told me that the tail/brake lights they sell that fit our cars are too bright and might cause damage.

[Q451990]

If they pull additonal current, they will certainly damage the OEM sockets. They're barely up to the task of handling the OEM bulbs.

Heath