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hey y'all a friend of mine recomend me this forum and i can see y..there is a lot of knowledged peeps here which is great....i've read a lot of the posts on the Turbo KAs subject....i'm a noob to the sceen of cars but i know what i like and what i like is a turbo KA.....i found myself a decent 1990 240 with a beat up KA24e in it for $500 bucks and now i have enough money to rebuilt the engine(~$1500) and trust me this thing need to get rebuilt....i need help though....i'm just moved to ATL with not much knowledge of the area....and so far i have not found one mechanic that truely knows their ****...so if any one living in the area give me some hints....greatly appreciated....and for everyone i WANT forged internals in my KA...i WANT my KA to be able to handle about 400hp (that is 400hp under the hood)....i'm only looking to get about 250-280hp at the wheel when its all said and done...i thought if i spent the extra money now to built a tough engine i will save more in the long run....i still have to do more searching for the Turbo but it is definitly something that WILL happen....i need to find a trusty retailer that sells this stuff...any where is fine...so if u KNOW a company who have some good ****....please let me know.....and anyone that have the knowledge of the procedure of charging a KA(as far as the what to do and how to do it) please place ur opion....it is much appreciated and welcomed...:help ...........i'm looking forward to doing this because the dealers that delivers the sr are becoming ***holes because too many damn peeps want the sr....so ITS KAT ALL THE WAY!!! thanks y'all


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Look left... try ka24de.com, great service, great prices and PornFlakes is very helpful

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I'm not sure if the HMP motorsports site ever updated (looks like they still have the same stuff so I don't even know if they still really exist beyond their project car)... but I know they've done a lot with the KA24E's as far as turbos go.http://hmpmotorsports.hypermart.net/Might want to at least communicate with them about the engine and how to go about treating it for turbocharging.

Quote »and for everyone i WANT forged internals in my KA[/quote] you're halfway there: your crank and rods are forged, IIRC (i know for sure the DE ones are). Design is just as important as the forming process.....

Quote »i WANT my KA to be able to handle about 400hp (that is 400hp under the hood)....i'm only looking to get about 250-280hp at the wheel when its all said and done[/quote]You're pretty much stuck just building up the engine as best as possible either way. Definitely don't forget about the crank and rod bearings... as well as having some headwork done (valve seating, guides, and lifters for such an old engine). I'd also suggest having whoever does your engine to make sure your oil pump is well within stock specification, as in at least within the better limits in terms of clearances. There's a lot more to really building an engine than slapping some forged rods and pistons in there and calling it a day.
huguetpj wrote:Look left... try ka24de.com, great service, great prices and PornFlakes is very helpful
The only thing they list at ka24de.com are connecting rods for his engine...... the name itself implies the DOHC engine.... i'm guessing they can do a special order though, since their parts are seem to be custom made through rod/ piston companies anyways.

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For 280 WHP I don't think you even need to lift the head off. You should be able to generate that kind of power with a good fuel/timing management setup and a decent turbo kit.

But making sure your oil pump is performing up to par and the rest of your engine is in very good running order is the first step prior to even adding 4lbs of boost.

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HMP is still around. The guy who runs it, Matt, is pretty nice and knowlegable too.

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I think Sunbelt is out in the Southwest somewhere. They build Race Nissan Motors. They probably have a good idea of what they are doing.

But as WD said, with some good tuning and if the motors is in decent conditions, you may not need a build up. A rebuild with stock parts can do the trick. But if that were tha case, I would probably use stronger parts. But that's just me.

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thanks y'all....i'll get in contact with those sources as soon as i can and for the rest i need some contact info and names...appreciated peeps

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C-Kwik wrote:I think Sunbelt is out in the Southwest somewhere. They build Race Nissan Motors. They probably have a good idea of what they are doing.

But as WD said, with some good tuning and if the motors is in decent conditions, you may not need a build up. A rebuild with stock parts can do the trick. But if that were tha case, I would probably use stronger parts. But that's just me.
Sunbelt is in GA... Atleast the one I know of.

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Atlanta has a pretty strong 240 contingency. The convention is held there this year so it might be good to meet some local people there and ask for suggestions. Chris May gets most of his work done at Balanced Performance . They are right outside Atlanta and I've visited the shop and was pretty impressed. Go check them out.

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KApwr wrote:Atlanta has a pretty strong 240 contingency. The convention is held there this year so it might be good to meet some local people there and ask for suggestions. Chris May gets most of his work done at Balanced Performance . They are right outside Atlanta and I've visited the shop and was pretty impressed. Go check them out.
Ahhh okay balanced performance, thats who I was thinking of. They are definitley a good shop, give em a call.

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Quote »The only thing they list at ka24de.com are connecting rods for his engine...... the name itself implies the DOHC engine.... i'm guessing they can do a special order though, since their parts are seem to be custom made through rod/ piston companies anyways.[/quote]

Oooppssss... didn't catch the E part. Jeje

Anyway, he is now selling both rod and pistons. Isn't that what most people talk about when refering to forged internals? Now that I've seen the KA's crank I don't think I'll ever need to replace it, I'm just getting it balanced and whatnot (don't really know how to translate some of the stuff I'm doing to it) :ylsuper

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huguetpj wrote:Oooppssss... didn't catch the E part. Jeje

Anyway, he is now selling both rod and pistons. Isn't that what most people talk about when refering to forged internals? Now that I've seen the KA's crank I don't think I'll ever need to replace it, I'm just getting it balanced and whatnot (don't really know how to translate some of the stuff I'm doing to it) :ylsuper


Your correct, just get your crank balanced and you'll be good. Our cranks are already forged.

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I know. And also the rods. I'm hoping the stock rods will support 18PSI, which is currently my goal. I just don't have the dough to dish out $700 for the pauter ones, with my engine being rebuilt and buying the last parts for the turbo setup... I'm FLAT broke :rolleyes

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i hear ya huguetpj i'm finding ways to dig up money too but its going to be worth it....getting back to the subject....so y'all are telling me that the piston and rods in my engine or "crank" is already forged......if that is right then sweet....thanks for the head up about balance i'll get in touch with them......first thanks DaveEEE for that list i'll try to track down and look at what all those are for and how much of it i can afford, and if its right its definitly going on my car.....hey DaveEEE if u can talk to me on AIM "donthatefools" or email me....i'm betting that u have a KA(T) so i would love to talk to u......that sounded wrong but u know what i mean...hahaha.........thanks again y'all....keep those info coming......thank you........

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huguetpj wrote:I know. And also the rods. I'm hoping the stock rods will support 18PSI, which is currently my goal. I just don't have the dough to dish out $700 for the pauter ones, with my engine being rebuilt and buying the last parts for the turbo setup... I'm FLAT broke :rolleyes


Don’t break a rod pushing you’re turbo up to 18psi. Make sure you at lest get some good rings such as the 99 Altima rings I think they are around 70 bucks and you will need to get the block honed for chrome. O and if you do use stock rods do not rev past 6500 or POP! Late! I need another beer!

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so far i've got this......to build a sohc to take up to 400hp i need to refinish the pistons or even shave it down a little to 8.5:1 compression ratio, get my self a set of 99 altima ring....clean and refinish head....or a polish job i guess......rebalance the crank or should i get a new and better one all together....i know i need some after market coil and i'll definitly get that since i have a friend that tried it and told me it worked out well....off course his is N/A not going to be charged....can anyone give me the head up on that or should i just try it.......i have a friend told me that a metal head gasket was neccessary but i didn't see anyone bring it up....is it a given or something really extra......am i missing anything.....remember just rebuilting the inside of the engine....not building it up yet.....thanx

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Don't worry... I've already bought Ross Pistons at 8.5CR with one hell of a ring set I've been told. It's just the rods I'm missing... :pface


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