broke into the 15's, hahaha

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
User avatar
glacier985
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 pm
Car: 72 Datsun 240Z
90 Nissan 240SX
11 Subaru WRX Wagon
16 Nissan Rogue
Location: Central Ohio

Post

yep, its true my ka24e ran a 15.696 @ 84.76mph. I can't believe it myself with the little amount of mods I have. I don't have a picture of my timeslip, but I have one around 7 when I get home.

mods:2.5" exhaustCone FilterButterflys RemovedNo EGR, BPT Valve, AIW, Canister, And 3 or 4 other sensorsStage 3 NA tune ECU as Gabe described it (major thanks to him)Stripped the whole back as well

This is about as quick as I will get before going turbo this fall. This was at my home tracks (Nation Trail Raceway) big import event, which I was one of two 240s racing (the other was my friends blacktop sr). I almost ended up winning my bracket, but I got beat off the line and lost to a pickup truck (which I have no idea how he got to race) in the final four. Kinda sucked, but theres a plus to the day. Now my friend (with the sr, ran 14.1) scared in his pants about me turboing my ka because of how quick it is right now.

On a side note I also placed 4th in the autocross and that was with only two runs and my first time doing it. I beat two Rx-7's, an S2000 and an SRT-4 Neon.

Timeslip Times (since I can't get a picture and I don't have it with me)These are from my post in the timeslip database at ka-t.org

60 Foot: 2.2541/8 Mile ET: 10.0501/8 Mile MPH: 67.81/4 Mile ET: 15.6961/4 Mile Mph: 84.76
Modified by glacier985 at 4:47 PM 8/8/2005


User avatar
deviousKA
Posts: 1355
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:04 pm
Car: 90 240sx NA /72 Datsun 510 NA /86 corolla GTS NA
Contact:

Post

Awesome, sounds like a fun weekend with the sohc! haha. Flossn that cone filter.

Glad the ecu is workin out. Hows it feel overall compared to the stock tune drivability wise? Have you run across any detonation? You could try bumping the base timing up a couple degrees if your not getting any detonation at all, might improve the performance a bit more. Let me know if you do and it helps.

Congrats!

User avatar
jmwenick
Posts: 764
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:12 am
Car: 1991 240sx Base Model

Post

Nice times, I Still have to break into the 15's with my 91, since last time I ran a 16.2 But now I have a few mods. What is this stage 3 ecu tune you are talking about?

User avatar
glacier985
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 pm
Car: 72 Datsun 240Z
90 Nissan 240SX
11 Subaru WRX Wagon
16 Nissan Rogue
Location: Central Ohio

Post

jmwenick wrote:Nice times, I Still have to break into the 15's with my 91, since last time I ran a 16.2 But now I have a few mods. What is this stage 3 ecu tune you are talking about?
Thats the fastest I went before sat, the 16.2. The Stage 3 tune is from Gabe (deviousKA). I basically asked him to tune my ecu with stock injectors and MAF to the most aggressive timing and fuel to get the most out of the engine and it actually worked out. I didn't believe it at first, but when I took her out for the first time with the chipped ECU it did seem to preform better when I got on it and was fine for crusing. No stalling or stuttering, but I haven't really got a chance to drive in traffic with it yet. That should happen some time this week. I think I heard, or I thought I heard a little detonation I'm sure, really don't know how its sounds. I might fiddle around with the timing since I'm going back to the track this weds or the next one.

Thee 240sx Owner
Posts: 1192
Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:58 am
Car: Canadian 89 240 with LSD/stock no ac/ and 4 motor swaps
Contact:

Post

nice number.. when you get into the 14 with the sohc .. let me know then we'll talk.... (14.8 partial built E)

User avatar
jmwenick
Posts: 764
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:12 am
Car: 1991 240sx Base Model

Post

What RPM Were you shifting at??

User avatar
Tulsa_S-13
Posts: 1953
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:14 pm
Car: 1991 SR 240sx

Post

Hey Gabe, how much do you charge for someone to send you their ECU and reprogramming it with the Stage 3 tune? If you would like you can email me the info at [email protected] Thanks

User avatar
glacier985
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 pm
Car: 72 Datsun 240Z
90 Nissan 240SX
11 Subaru WRX Wagon
16 Nissan Rogue
Location: Central Ohio

Post

here is the timeslip, sorry about the delay. jmwenick, I was shifting at 6100rpms to 6300rpms according to my tach.

I'm R518 btw

crzycav86
Posts: 3836
Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2003 1:28 pm
Car: 93 Nissan 240SX KAT

Post

Hey, just wondering.... whatever happened to your dohc head on sohc block?

User avatar
glacier985
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 pm
Car: 72 Datsun 240Z
90 Nissan 240SX
11 Subaru WRX Wagon
16 Nissan Rogue
Location: Central Ohio

Post

crzycav86 wrote:Hey, just wondering.... whatever happened to your dohc head on sohc block?
Ummm.....long story. I got a new ecu and started the car it ran for 2 mins or so ad then died and would not start agian. I got pissed and ripped out the wiring harness and pulled the engine out the next day. I then found out the my lower engine harness had a short in it and this probably caused it to start and run when it wanted to. So I put the E back together with all new wiring and it started up and has run like a champ for about a month now.

User avatar
sunnys14
Posts: 1600
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:59 pm
Car: S14

Post

wow... i feel even slower now! i ran a 15.6 at 87 mph when i was NA. i had injen cold air, pacesetter header, blitz nur spec R exhaust, 3 inch CAT, 91 dual exhaust cams, fidanza flywheel, ASP crank pulley and electric fan conversion. i have no idea why it was that slow... then i found out my #3 and 4 cylinders were low on compression

User avatar
VinceSez
Posts: 1377
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:28 am
Car: 1992 Nissan 240sx

Post

how did you fix your compression?

User avatar
sunnys14
Posts: 1600
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:59 pm
Car: S14

Post

i didnt... i turboed it till the motor blew

Thee 240sx Owner
Posts: 1192
Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:58 am
Car: Canadian 89 240 with LSD/stock no ac/ and 4 motor swaps
Contact:

Post

sunnys14 wrote:i didnt... i turboed it till the motor blew
now that is one of the best responses i like reading... "it broke so i turboed it till it blew the hell up"

User avatar
sunnys14
Posts: 1600
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:59 pm
Car: S14

Post

hahaha yeah! i wanted to give it a gracious death

User avatar
glacier985
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 pm
Car: 72 Datsun 240Z
90 Nissan 240SX
11 Subaru WRX Wagon
16 Nissan Rogue
Location: Central Ohio

Post

sunnys14 wrote:wow... i feel even slower now! i ran a 15.6 at 87 mph when i was NA. i had injen cold air, pacesetter header, blitz nur spec R exhaust, 3 inch CAT, 91 dual exhaust cams, fidanza flywheel, ASP crank pulley and electric fan conversion. i have no idea why it was that slow... then i found out my #3 and 4 cylinders were low on compression
Your not the only DE I made feel slow. My friends old rebuilt DE with LSD ran a 16.4 and my other friends old 91 DE motor ran a 16.3 before he went SR. So don't feel to bad, lol.

InsanityInc
Posts: 2521
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:43 am
Contact:

Post

glacier985 wrote:Your not the only DE I made feel slow. My friends old rebuilt DE with LSD ran a 16.4 and my other friends old 91 DE motor ran a 16.3 before he went SR. So don't feel to bad, lol.
Either they can't drive or their knock sensors are bad, and the latter is very likely.

User avatar
l3ooherS14
Posts: 303
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:00 am
Car: 1995 Nissan 240sx S14
Contact:

Post

Nicee!

User avatar
glacier985
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 pm
Car: 72 Datsun 240Z
90 Nissan 240SX
11 Subaru WRX Wagon
16 Nissan Rogue
Location: Central Ohio

Post

InsanityInc wrote:Either they can't drive or their knock sensors are bad, and the latter is very likely.
The first guy I guess just couldn't drive, but the second we later found out his camshafts had broke sometime, so we figured his engine was a pile of crap.

halfassracing
Posts: 21
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2004 11:25 am
Car: 1993 nissan 240sx

Post

15 nice for a sohc, you can do better than that.

User avatar
sil80drifter
Posts: 1313
Joined: Sun Aug 18, 2002 5:53 am
Car: 1990 240SX Hatch

Post

according to car and driver, our SOHC cars (when new) are supposed to run 15.7 stock. Just somethign to think about. No tunes, LSDs, Intakes, nothing.

sil80

User avatar
glacier985
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2003 4:30 pm
Car: 72 Datsun 240Z
90 Nissan 240SX
11 Subaru WRX Wagon
16 Nissan Rogue
Location: Central Ohio

Post

sil80drifter wrote:according to car and driver, our SOHC cars (when new) are supposed to run 15.7 stock. Just somethign to think about. No tunes, LSDs, Intakes, nothing.

sil80
Wow, they must have tested a freak car or something, because I know a lot of stock SOHC's that ran low 17's to high 16's. Nothing close to a 15.7 thought.

InsanityInc
Posts: 2521
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:43 am
Contact:

Post

sil80drifter wrote:according to car and driver, our SOHC cars (when new) are supposed to run 15.7 stock. Just somethign to think about. No tunes, LSDs, Intakes, nothing.

sil80
That's the DOHC cars. The SOHC ones are quite a bit slower.

User avatar
drftnassmofo
Posts: 528
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:01 pm
Car: 84 s12 ca18et-TRADED
85 s12 ca18et-SOLD
92 fastback-SOLD
91 fastback-SOLD
90 coupe KADE swap-SOLD
06 Infiniti M45

Post

ive got a dual cam 91 and after replacing the clutch w/ just an oem one and getting a non turbod j-30 vlsd it feels like low 15's. i pull on stock rx-7s and i was hangin w/ my bros 03 spec v when he just had an intake and catback..but after i got mine, my mom got one. hers was really really slow. i couldve beat it in my truck. 3 months or so later it just quit and threw a rod out of the block! crazy

User avatar
sil80drifter
Posts: 1313
Joined: Sun Aug 18, 2002 5:53 am
Car: 1990 240SX Hatch

Post

The 10 extra HP on the DOHC cannot account for more than half a second difference. It's all about drivers (and tires, but we'll leave that out for now). Almost nobody out there knows how to launch well. I've been practicing the launches themselves for 2 years now and I've gotten my times down significantly, on the same setup. When people go buy a car and then expect to be able to do the same thing that professional drivers do in magazines when they test the cars... it almost never comes out the same.Also, there is a big difference what our 240s can do now, vs. what they could do when they were brand new. Clutches are more beat, trannies are more shot, compression isn't the best, etc etc etc. But if you have a good shape 240, and decent tires and your clutch doesn't slip. SOHC or DOHC you better be under 16.

sil80


Return to “KA24E / KA24DE Forum”