Bring the Silvia here!!

Post by **Silviaspeed** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

I've heard some rumors about Nissan's intentions to bring the Silvia here to the states. Has anyone else heard these rumors? We all know the import scene continues to grow by leaps and bounds everyday, and car companies are gearing there efforts toward this car segment. With the likes of the WRX, and soon the EVO, cars with exceptional power, handlinig and overall performance that are affordable for the everyday Joe, do you think its time we try and do our part as Nissan enthusiasts and at least show Nissan through email the support it would have for a car like our beloved Silvia. I'm not asking for you to sign your name in blood, I already have the letter typed out, its simple and to the point. But it would at least prove to Nissan that there is a demand, who knows maybe it will do nothing. But what if it does at least influence the thinking over in Japan. Whats the worst they could say.....no. Hell we've been getting that ever since the 240 was introduced to the states.

Here is what the letter says:

Hi,I have owned many Nissans in my time. One of my favorite cars has always been the 240sx. Its great price, fantastic handling, and sexy looks said it all. I am a Nissan enthusiast and would like to beg and plead with you to bring the s15 from Japan or create a new s16 to bring over to America. The time of American muscle and the resurgence of the Japanese sportcar is upon us. Just look at the Subaru WRX and what they have done. Cheap, high powered and attainable by everyone. If you could do that with a s15/s16 Silvia and keep it under 25k there could be a great deal of interest in that car. Fellow Nissan enthusiasts feel the same way. Please bring over the Silvia.

SincerelyPut name here

Copy and paste, re-write what you like, or write your own letter yourself. It doesn't matter. Its numbers that matter. I feel we owe it to ourselves to at least give it a shot.

Man I can't wait for the feedback on this one......lol. Ok guys and gals, talk to ya lata. Frank

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

Id definately buy one, if it had the turbo SR20DET motor, and didnt look like that wierd futuristic Skyline prototype. I would love it if they brought the Silvia over with a reasonable price tag so we could afford them, say like 20,000(?). Factory LSD, power options, SR20DET, nice skyline seats similar to the Spec V seats but in different colors, RWD, nice sporty suspension, good stereo, and im sold. Id take one right now...

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

dont the newer sil's have vvt? Yeah the spec v seats are nice. I conned my aunt into getting one over the weekend, she wanted a sentra

Post by **APEXi240** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

The S15 is going to be discontinued in Japan either this year or next. No one will be getting it anymore.

Also there would be next to no market for it, the SE-R tops off around 20-25k at a dealer, and the 350 starts at 27k...if a Silvia was stuck in between, one of the three cars would absolutly bomb (or probably both the se-r and the 350).

Post by **Jubs180** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

its all in the marketing..

Mitsubishi for example. the top of the line eclipse is expensive as hell.like.. around 26-27kbut people still buy them.the lancer.. can be cheap as hell, PLENTY of people buying those. and I am sure people will buy the Evo.

WRX, 25k+.. people still buy them.

Nissan has done quite well with the altima, all with the marketing.. I don't watch much TV, but with the little that I do see,I see plenty of maxima and altima commercials, they are cool and I think they get the job done... and people buy those cars.I have yet to see a Z commercial though.nor SER, like I said, i don't watch much TV though.

IF a silvia was brought here.. selling it would be all in the way they give people a need for it. RWD sports car I think people would go for.but only if they kept it UNDER 25... maybe 25 maxed out with options..

And a person who has the money, and had the choice between the Z and the Silvia, I think would choose the Z, probably mostly people who owned Z's in the past, or couldn't afford a 300zx back in the day... the people who bought the 240sx

....now are making more money and can afford the Z..

now....the people who couldn't afford a Z would be able to afford the silvia.

all in my opinion of course...I would love to see a turbo powered Silvia here... that would just rule.although I would probably still get a Z

-Dan

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

yeah i dont think the ser or the 350 would bomb. Wouldnt it be like when there was the sentra se-r, 240sx, and 300z? none of those cars bombed.

Post by **APEXi240** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

The 300zx bombed, thats why it was pulled.

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

are you sure the 300zx bombed? At one point it was the top selling sportscar in america. Infact in 1990 or 1991 it was the highest selling sportscar of all time. Its been the car of the year,and was on car and drivers top 10 from 1990 to 1996. I think it was yanked because the 350zx concept was presented. I could be wrong feel free to correct me

Post by **boMex** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

The 300zx was discontinued when the Japanese Yen rose in value compared to the US dollar, making it harder to make a profit on the cars. That, combined with slipping sales in the sports coupe segment led to the removal of the Japanese sports cars (RX-7, Supra, 300zx etc.) in the North American market. Now that the market has revived somewhat they are returning. s'all :sleep

Post by **iwantanr34** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

What we need to get is the skyline in the states. I mean the real one. A Genuine R34. Yea, the silvia would be bad a**, but considering the other posts, it might not be accepted so well especially considering what i percieve to be nissan's slow stray from high performance straight from the factory for us, the deprived americans. i know the infinity v35 (is that right?) or whatever version of the skyline is [being] planned, but its a luxury-perfomance sedan. We need a new turbo monster... no bull ****. Speaking of which, now that i think of it, the addition of the evo to this country's roads just might influence nissan to feel the need to compete... i mean after all, wouldnt you buy one?

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

InstantRice wrote:yeah i dont think the ser or the 350 would bomb. Wouldnt it be like when there was the sentra se-r, 240sx, and 300z? none of those cars bombed.

All 3 of the cars bombed, that's why they were all pulled. The 300ZX sales dropped off to a near hault in 1995 so it only had one more year. The 240SX and 200SX didn't bomb as badly, but they still lost sells every year, until eventually 1998 when they were dropped.

But the main reason the sells went down was nothing to do with marketing or whatever. It was because that was the SUV era where everybody wanted a freaking SUV and sports cars were lame. Now, with the rise of sport compacts, sports cars are also making a comeback, so the 350Z should sell VERY well. Not to mention, it's a kick a** car.

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

your definition of bomb and mine are very different. Since the 300zx was(still is) the best selling sports car of all time i dont think it bombed. the 10 years or whatever where it was the best shouldnt be canceled out cause its sales dropped off because it got caught in a fad. A bomb is like the car, Le CAR, not a car that sold a ton and then stopped sell towards the end of its production.

I was not talking about the 200sx i was speaking of the sentra se-r

240sx yeah another sensless victim of the suv era. I think the yen was what really killed the 300zx though.

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

InstantRice wrote:your definition of bomb and mine are very different. Since the 300zx was(still is) the best selling sports car of all time i dont think it bombed. the 10 years or whatever where it was the best shouldnt be canceled out cause its sales dropped off because it got caught in a fad. A bomb is like the car, Le CAR, not a car that sold a ton and then stopped sell towards the end of its production.

I was not talking about the 200sx i was speaking of the sentra se-r

240sx yeah another sensless victim of the suv era. I think the yen was what really killed the 300zx though.

Well, since there is no Sentra SE-R after 94 (with the exception of the B15's), and the 200SX was the model that had the SE-R trim, I figured you were referring to the 200SX SE-R.

Post by **chrispy** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

is mitsubishi realling gonna sell the lancer EVO? which one because the evo VII kick the wrx's a** and the wrx is hella fasst

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

chrispy coming in from left field, Ive heard they are going to. The have no real reason not to. With the success of the wrx awd/turbo cars seem like the thing to be. on top of the success of the wrx mitsubishi has a more recognizable name than wrx so you would get some people who arent car junkies to buy it.

As far as the se-r, yeah it ended production in 94 but i was just talking about the sentra. because the se post 94 and the se-r both had the sr20de, im pretty sure, i just kinda group them together. Hope this clears up the confusion.

Post by **neurovish** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

evo VII goes on sale here next janurary or february...hopefully it will start outselling the wrx, forcing subaru to give us an STi version, I'd be first in line to buy one of those

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

tru or mitsubishi could do us a real favor and just put subuaru out of buis. Not gonna happen, just wishful thinking

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

iwantanr34 wrote:What we need to get is the skyline in the states. I mean the real one. A Genuine R34.

you can buy an R34 in the US, but you better be willing to pay a pretty penny for it.

good news...

the new R35 is rumored to grace the soil of the US.

the bad news...

the US spec R35 is rumored to be powered by a naturally aspirated V8 while the rest of the planet gets a twin turbocharged V6.

(note: these are just rumors. i'll post the link where i got the info from later.)

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

How is that bad news? I'd rather have a V-8. If you turbo a V-8, it makes more power than a turbo V-6.

Also, I doubt the whole world will get a turbo V-6 and we get a V-8. They will most likely put the same motor in the car everywhere. They typically do that with higher end cars to cut production costs. On 240sx's and sentra's, they can afford to put different engines in it for different countries.

Post by **TrunkMonkey** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

bah, forget it. i tried to find the site and all i found were more freakin rumors. the best and most appealing one yet is that the R35 will have a twin turbocharged version of the Q45's V8. that would be nice!

if you want to see some of the stuff that's flying around just enter "R35 GTR" in any search engine. it's ungodly.

Post by **looksLikeA240** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

you can get an evo7 right now here in the states.

36,500 dollars http://www.evolutionimports.com/

at least its the real deal 4g63 with 276hp

Post by **skydragoness** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

Quote »tru or mitsubishi could do us a real favor and just put subuaru out of buis. Not gonna happen, just wishful thinking[/quote]

I love the WRX, (1st gen bodystyle mostly)been in love with the car since i first saw it

you have to give props to Subaru, they took the risk of bringing it over (i.e. SVX/Alcyone or those turbo Loyale's didn't catch on) WRX was a success and now other manufacturers are following suit... or it could be some kind of eerie coincidence .... but hey!

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

I never said i hated the wrx or wouldnt give it its deserved props but i happen to dislike the company. 1 car wont change that, at least one car that isnt the sti.

on the r35 there arent any rumors on what engine family it will be in yet eh?(did that sound to canadien?)

YouTube · Post by **EZcheese15** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

It's either gonna be a VQ or VK block.

Post by **skydragoness** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

i'm curious, instant rice, what is it you don't like?

Post by **Stoneage_Turbo** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

if you ask me the WRX on paper is superior to the lancer series , tho it hardly never come out that way in real life outside the WRC for a couple of years

the low center of gravity bigger displacemnt ,low cowl height, the flat four's tourqe characterisitics and the AWD system's mechaincial layout make it a superior choice , its just the lancer is higher tech , if the subie could egtt he technology and still come in at the same price the lancer wouldnt exist .

make my WRX rally blue with 16 inch wheels and projector headlamps

Post by **InstantRice** » Mon Aug 19, 2002 2:15 pm

I had a family member who worked for subaru and they didnt treat him very well towards the end of his career.

On top of that i just really dislike their cars with the exception of the wrx. 2 reasons to dislike a company. Im curious dragoness don't you have any companies that you just dont particularly like?