Bricking

[bigbadberry3]

http://jalopnik.com/5887265/tesla-motor ... feel-gassy

Tesla. You. Are. Ridiculous.

[numbnuts240]

thread not about defecating? i am disappoint.

[Jesda]

The most absurd part was Elon Musk's attempt at "exposing" the customer by revealing private emails. Musk is an arrogant, sleazy SOB whose company is running on fumes. He's so far spent $177m of his $180m fortune (earned from the sale of Paypal to eBay).


He and his family are going to end up eating porridge in the streets if he doesn't eat some humble pie.

[alms24sebring]

thread not about defecating? i am disappoint.

Also slightly disappointed. ^ well said.

[themadscientist]

Glad this isn't a nasty version of planking.

I saw this in there.

The Nissan Leaf is currently the only other widely available all-electric vehicle in the US. A Nissan Leaf sales specialist was emphatic that their vehicle did not have the discharge problem. The Leaf warranty [Full PDF: Page 9] does however state that the owner must plug in the vehicle within 14 days of reaching zero charge, which does appear to differ from Tesla's manual that says the owner must do it immediately. [Page 5-2, Column 1: PDF]

Tesla better have a moment of clarity and realize, much a child that has done a bad thing, better own up to it now and make ammends. This is s new product type and the consumer paradigms are still being formed. If they can pull their heads out of their asses and realize hiding it is going to hurt rather than help them they can salvage this situation. They may need to, unfortunately, roll the cost into the purchase price up front which will hurt them, but I would argue much less than customers' perceptions would be if this policy doesn not change. They would be less ancy about the car and its inherent achiles heel if they were confident the company had their back.

Or, they could just remind people how infrequently their car catches on fire.

Chevy Volt Fires: Government Stops Investigating Itself

(Bloomberg) U.S. regulators ended an investigation into why Chevrolet Volt electric cars caught fire, and said electric vehicles do not pose a greater risk of fire.

The conclusion by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration came two weeks after General Motors Co. (GM) told owners to bring the vehicles to dealerships for repair.

“Based on the available data, NHTSA does not believe that Chevy Volts or other electric vehicles pose a greater risk of fire than gasoline-powered vehicles,” the agency said in an e- mailed statement today.

The government started investigating the Volt after a side- impact crash test in May led to a fire three weeks later. During that test, the lithium-ion battery pack broke open and coolant leaked into the battery. When the car was physically rotated as part of the test, more coolant leaked into a circuit board, leading to a fire. NHTSA replicated the fire in November and started an official probe Nov. 25.

“GM is proud of the technological innovation the Volt represents,” Greg Martin, a GM spokesman, said today in an e- mailed statement. “We appreciate the confidence our Volt customers continued to provide during the investigation.”

[float_6969]

I guess I don't get it. All batteries, if left alone, will discharge eventually, and if left dis-charged, will fail. Nothing new here. and I also don't see why Tesla would be expected to go around advertising that if you're a dumbass, and can't read, you'll ruin your car.

I remember a friend of mine who works at the local Nissan dealership telling me about a woman who bought a brand new Altima 2 years earlier having her car towed into the dealership because, "it just died on the highway". They tried to turn it over and it wouldn't crank. The engine has seized up solid because she had NEVER changed the oil, had the fluids check, NOTHING. When they told her it would need a new motor and that it wasn't covered under warranty, she was livid and didn't understand why a brand new car would need to have the oil changed, and fluids checked. She actually said, "I didn't think new cars needed those things anymore."

You can't fix stupid.

[Jesda]

I guess I don't get it. All batteries, if left alone, will discharge eventually, and if left dis-charged, will fail. Nothing new here.

It's new as it applies to electric-only transportation. Tesla and Nissan are establishing norms for ownership and usability and they bear the responsibility for making differences in ownership and maintenance crystal clear, and not just on a page in the manual.

If I leave my bicycle light alone for two months, it will still turn on. My phone, however, would remain in standby mode and discharge over the course of a few days. The user has to understand that a modern electric car is less like a flashlight and more like a mobile phone -- it's in a constant state of discharge due to the ongoing activity of its subsystems. Turning it off is more like putting your laptop in sleep mode.

The manufacturer has to set clearer and more explicit expectations to satisfy the customer and prevent hardware failures.

Most importantly, the manufacturer (Tesla) shouldn't badmouth its own customers or reveal private communications.


If this was GM or Nissan, they'd send notices to owners, issue a recall (if safety related) or have service advisors and technicians communicate this information on the customer's next visit. Tesla is run by an angry infant and it shows. Like Steve Jobs in the 1980s, Musk is going to get burned.

[Mr1der]

Elon Musk can pay me to felate me.

[float_6969]

I can see the issues with how Tesla handled the issue, and I agree completely in the regard that they basically didn't handle it.

[Jesda]

Elon Musk can pay me to felate me.

Elon Musk from the future:

[Dattebayo]

I wonder what the cost vs. price comparison is for one of those?