breathalyzers

Post by **johnparkyourcar** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:00 pm

Just wanted to play it safe, and I was wondering how many people have their own breathalyzers. My 21st birthday is coming up soon, and i HATE it when other people drive my cars (valet parking, DDs, etc.) I'm looking into buying a breathalyzer but I just wanted some input on whether or not they are accurate, how much, which one to get...etc. thanks!

Post by **RED_DET** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:44 pm

I carry one when I'm working...

Yes they are accurate if properly maintained.

Post by **zozoka1212** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:50 pm

I suggest to leave your car home and get a cab. See I don't know you but most people even if they would use it and the bar closing or whatever you decide to leave. You check you alcohol level just a bit over what you are going to do. You most likely still going behind the wheel. You know it is only couple of blocks to get home. That's when thing goes wrong.

I think if you really want to play safe. Leave the car home and have a cab.

Believe me I've seen a 45 years old guy crying in the court room. He's got 5 years and a big chunk of money to pay. There it goes the house. His life flipped at the point when he decided to drive a car and have alcohol.

In my opinion 0% alcohol.

Please do yourself and others a favour leave the car home. I told my friend one time if you can afford to go to the bar and get 6,7 or 8 drinks then you can afford to get a cab to take you home. Maybe stop one round earlier so you have enough money to get home. If the money is a factor.

zozo

Post by **C-Kwik** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:15 pm

Consider that the .08% BAC is only the legal limit. You become impaired even before that level. If you are going out to drink, share a car with trustworthy friends. Decide on a designated driver before you go. If noone volunteers, take it upon yourself to be the DD. If you have a regular group of good friends, they won't mind taking turns. hell, every one of my friends know that even if I am not there with them, they can call me anytime and I will pick them up if they have been drinking and don't have a safe ride home...

While I'm sure the law is a concern, a much bigger and much overlooked concern is accidents. Remember, people get into more accidents than they need to even without alcohol. No need to increase the odds. You could end up dead or seriously injured. You could cause injuries or death to an innocent person. No amount of alcohol or the fun you can have with it is worth that. And before you think that I am just raining on your party, I used to party every weekend with my friends. Having a DD or being DD has never reduced my ability to have fun.

Post by **danielekfuj** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:28 pm

Post by **SVTCOBRA** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:24 pm

I'm with zozo and c-kwik on this one.

My wife doesn't drink, so I always have a DD I don't drive even after only 1.

Post by **Broadfield** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:24 pm

You could get a BAID(breath alcohol ignition device) system installed into your vehicle. That way if you are at the bar it won't even allow you to start your car if you blow over a predetermined limit. These are always issued by the state in order to get your license back after multiple convictions. However, I have had a couple customers buy them on their own. My shop installs almost a hundred a year...... lots of drunks in my area!

Post by **SVTCOBRA** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:33 pm

NOTE: This thread will probably be moved over to GENERAL shortly by the mods.

So, if you can't find it here later, that's where it went. Generally speaking, you must discuss G35 breathalyzers only here!!

Post by **Beancooker** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:35 pm

johnparkyourcar wrote:Just wanted to play it safe, and I was wondering how many people have their own breathalyzers. My 21st birthday is coming up soon, and i HATE it when other people drive my cars (valet parking, DDs, etc.) I'm looking into buying a breathalyzer but I just wanted some input on whether or not they are accurate, how much, which one to get...etc. thanks!

Okay bro, not to sound rude, because I'm not trying to be at all, but if you need a breathalizer to tell you when you shouldn't drive, then you are not mature enough to be drinking in the first place. Plain and simple, do as SVTCOBRA, and after 1, don't freaking drive. Not just is it stupid because you can wreck your car, but moreso, you could kill a totally innocent person. I worked as a bouncer at a bar for two years, and have seen way too many people drink and drive. It's just retarded. Also, consider that a DUI (in Washington State) will cost you a minimum of $7000. You will have a breathalizer/ignition control installed by the state after your 1st offense, and have to pay out $60. a month for lease of the unit. That stays in your car for a year. Alcohol treatment classes (which you pay for), minimum of a $1000. fine (usually more) screwed insurance, etc...

Play it safe, and call a cab.

Post by **zozoka1212** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:38 pm

Sorry guys I was looking for my lost thread at the general.

Yeah before they move it to the general we must make it clear this is only for the g35 breathalyzer.

Can't even go just infiniti it nust be g35 specialized.

wait til our residental evil comes in to clean the place.

hahahahah

just kidding

zozo

Post by **zozoka1212** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:39 pm

BTW how much is that BAID cost to put it in the G?

zozo

Post by **SVTCOBRA** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:48 pm

ZOZO broke 2000!!!!!

Post by **zozoka1212** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:51 pm

you are right woooohoooo

Nice. Idid not noticed it. Well it happened probably yesterday. I guess. I am a P.H.

hehehehe

zozo

Post by **SVTCOBRA** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:54 pm

uh....p.w.......

David will be chasing you!

Post by **zozoka1212** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:02 pm

Yeah what's up with him. He is still trying to get up from the bed?

zozo

Post by **W661335PF** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:03 pm

You can buy small, hand-held breathalyzers that are much less expensive than those used by the police; however, and this is important, their accuracy has come under intense scrutiny. Breath testers can be very sensitive to temperature, for example, and will give false readings if not adjusted or recalibrated to account for ambient or surrounding air temperatures. The temperature of the subject is also very important.

Breathing pattern can also significantly affect breath test results. One study found that the BAC readings of subjects decreased 11 to 14% after running up one flight of stairs and 72–75% after doing so twice. Another study found a 15% decrease in BAC readings after vigorous exercise or hyperventilation. Hyperventilation for 20 seconds has been shown to lower the reading by approximately 32%. On the other hand, holding your breath for 30 seconds can increase the breath test result by about 28%.

Some breath analysis machines assume a hematocrit (cell volume of blood) of 47%. However, hematocrit values range from 42 to 52% in men and from 37 to 47% in women. A person with a lower hematocrit will have a falsely high BAC reading.

Failure of law enforcement officers to use the devices properly or of administrators to have the machines properly maintained and re-calibrated as required are particularly common sources of error. However, most states have very strict guidelines regarding officer training and instrument maintenance and calibration.

Research indicates that breath tests using police machines can vary at least 15% from actual blood alcohol concentration-- and this is where the one you would buy comes into play since it can be off >20%. >20% is a huge factor and can take you easily from .06 where you can be released by the police, to >.08, where you can be arrested, recieve a huge fine plus court costs, etc. Just imagine the implications if your model measures incorrectly at this level!!!

C-Kwik, Zozo and Beancooker's advice are the most solid of that given here by anyone, IMHO. In our efforts to work around the law, we edge towards it and inadvertently can hurt others. I've said many times here that as someone who did a rotation through the ER, nothing is sadder than a young kids body being scooped (with a shovel) into a box for burial following an accident. The sight never leaves you.
Modified by W661335PF at 7:13 PM 1/4/2008

Post by **SVTCOBRA** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:06 pm

^ great info!!!!

Post by **zozoka1212** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:09 pm

Interesting.

Another reason not to drive after the first one.

zozo

Post by **zozoka1212** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:10 pm

Also beancooker is right. If you need a device to tell you you can drive then there is a problem.

zozo

Post by **johnparkyourcar** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:02 am

Wow I was not expecting those kinds of responses, but thanks everyone for the input. I appreciate the concerns about DUIs and drunk driving, because it not only is dangerous to myself but to other innocent people. I only started this thread to get a feel of how many people actually had a breathalyzer. I am soon to be 21 and i knowing i will probably be in those situations, I just wanted to be in the safe side; better safe than sorry. I know when I am still good to drive, but like those television commercials, I know when I had too much to drive, but not one too many. My sister recently got a DUI and her BAC was at .08, and it is in those situations where I would think a breathalyzer would come in handy. Not driving would be the best way, but testing myself and actually seeing where I am would also help me decide whether or not if I should call a cab. I'm sorry if I sounded immature but I just wanted to be on the safe side. I am just a young college student with lots to learn.

Post by **SVTCOBRA** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:03 am

Actually, by asking, you are showing your maturity!

However, even the thought of possibly drinking and driving hits a nerve for some of us who have had bad experiences with this situation.

+1 for stepping up and asking questions BEFORE your act!

Post by **telcoman** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:16 am

johnparkyourcar wrote:Wow I was not expecting those kinds of responses, but thanks everyone for the input. I appreciate the concerns about DUIs and drunk driving, because it not only is dangerous to myself but to other innocent people. I only started this thread to get a feel of how many people actually had a breathalyzer. I am soon to be 21 and i knowing i will probably be in those situations, I just wanted to be in the safe side; better safe than sorry. I know when I am still good to drive, but like those television commercials, I know when I had too much to drive, but not one too many. My sister recently got a DUI and her BAC was at .08, and it is in those situations where I would think a breathalyzer would come in handy. Not driving would be the best way, but testing myself and actually seeing where I am would also help me decide whether or not if I should call a cab. I'm sorry if I sounded immature but I just wanted to be on the safe side. I am just a young college student with lots to learn.

SAVE YOUR MONEY. DON'T DO IT!!

Follow the advice of the previous posts!!

Do not drive even after one drink. The police are out every night watching for young people like you.

http://www.newjerseydwi.com/new-jersey-dwi.htm

Our municipal court docket is filled with people who ruined their lives by drinking and driving. As the wise Ben Stern said to young Howard at the age of seven. "Shut up sit down, Don't be stupid you moron"

If you are going out to have a good time & drink, at least do it responsibily in moderation and either have a designated driver or take a cab. Do not even sit in a parked motor vehicle if you've been drinking. If the police see or catch you it is going to cost you a bundle for a lawyer.

Telcoman

Post by **telcoman** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:24 am

I forgot to mention that most employers do background checks as well as credit checks on new employees. If you get a conviction for DUI or DWI not only will it affect your employement but the police can sieze your vehicle. If its not fully paid for you still owe the payments while the police have your car

DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE

Post by **rn79870** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:41 am

I second what the majority of people here are saying. Don't even take your car if you are going to be drinking. A cab is far, far cheaper than the $10,000+ dollars your first DUI ticket (in Calif) will cost you. And that is if you are lucky enough to get caught before you cause injury or death to another, or yourself. At 21, make a policy to leave your car at home when you party, you'll be far better off, and so will your car.

Post by **chad1200** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:20 am

screw all you guys! i've had a breathalizer in my last 5 cars for 9 1/2 years! mine's court ordered, though. trust me.... drinking and driving will screw your life up! a cab costs WAY less than a lawyer and fines!

Post by **zozoka1212** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:07 am

See if Chad was mature enough that time like you(come here and ask) we could of save him too.

zozo

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