Brand new Garrett turbo, Junk?? need help guys!!

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Solow240sx
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Ok guys so most of you no i have a fully built sr20det with a full-race twinscroll dual wastegate GT3582R set-up, Since the first time i have started this thing it has smoked, No super bad but u can tell and everything is brand new so it should not be smokeing the car has 100 miles on it now and here is everything that has been checked thinkin theres no way it can be my new turbo, Also can u guys make sure my catch can lines are hooked up correctly it goes from the fitting on the block, to the t on the cover, from the t on the cover, to the can then from the can back into the intake pipe?? right correct??

Compression test, 150 across all 4 cylinders

Leak down testcyl #1 --- 7% cyl #2 --- 5%cyl #3 --- 6%cyl #4 --- 5%

There is no oil on the spark plugsNo oil in the exhaust manifold, screamer pipes, or noticable oil in the downpipe, i think its burning it all so its not visiable..No oil in intercooler pipingno oil in intake manifold Nothing in intake pipeVery small amount in the catch can, seams very normal..pcv works fineno kinks or binds in oil drain witch is a -12a/n braided line..

Heres some pics though of where i did find oil..

Oil spatter on v-band..

Any help will be greatly appreciated!!


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Also it does has a -3a/n, 0.03" Taka oil restrictor..

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50 Views and no help!!! Anyone??

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Could have a bad oil seal on the turbo. did you prime the turbo before you started the car?

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Yes i did prime the set-up, and thats what im thinking! Just wanted to see what everyone else thought.. Sent the pics to full-race just waiting to see what they say..

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I had a similar problem after my head rebuild. Port polish and valve job with new v/seals, springs, retainers, RAS, and cams. Seemed like ym car was burning a lot of oil blowing blue smoke. Check the shaft on the brand new Garret 2871 .86 and thwere was none. Couldn't find the leak and the Compression and leakdown where perfect.

Welll i was running Roayal Purple 5w-30 at the time. So first thing i did was seafoam it. After the seafaom i changed the oil to 10w-40 Mobil 1. It still smoked but not nearly as much. Now after driving it some it stopped smoking all togther. The head builder (who is one of the best in Chicago)said all the guides and seals were good and tight. So i never really found out what happened.

Did you do the break in procedure? Maybe you just need to drive a little harder to seat the rings. I break in all my vehicles by beating the s*** out them. I redline it and back it off and redline again and try to go through as many gears doing this as i can. If you ever find what the problem was please post it.

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Ok guys just wandering if anyone else, could chime in the turbo was send out to Garrett and they said there is nothing wrong with it at all, So what else could be making this happen?? Sould i just keep driving it?? I dont have much else i can try!

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what oil are you running (rebuilt or new engine NO SYNTHETIC)Second of all how many miles have you broke it in for 100 go to a dyno and let them brak it in its the fastst and you can get it tuned at the same time or . (drive 500 miles ,change oil thwen at 1000 ,1500 ,2000, 2500 . you need to seat the rings . jmo

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The motor has 98 miles on it right now and about 60 of them were dyno miles, it was suposed to be broken in on the dyno and tuned, but it wouldn't stop smoking, its not alot but just enough to tell..and smells like oil..

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60 miles is not a lot of time to let your piston rings seat properly . . . you should give them a good 1000 miles . . . as far as throwing it on a dyno right away - wow - i'm baffled. i just did stop and go but never pounded it or shifted hard . . . hmmm....

seams like could be a combo of a couple bad things - piston rings causing blowby and bad turbo seals...do you have the oil restrictor on your turbo line to reduce oil capacity?

i know a lot of V8 guys romp on their new motors to break them in, but I believe its just stop and go traffic that really seals the deal . . . i would've given it atleast 500 miles...

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The motor has not been beat on hard, it was just on the dyno for the break in and tryin to get the afr's better, Just small pulls it has never seen redline yet.. Garrett has had the turbo for a week and said there is nothing wrong with it so for now im gonna take there word, Also yes i am running a taka oil restrictor.. And if the rings wouldn't have seated the leak down test shoulda be much worse, correct?? 7% max on the leak down test is nothing!!!???

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Anyone else have any advice??

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first off relax and have a positive outlook, this will work you fine.

:o)

I would take the motor out and reassemble the whole setup, step by step. I don't think a proper diagnose is possible with it sitting in the car.

- seems as simple as the center cartridge is flooding, i think one of you fittings isnt doing its job.

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dbrass240 wrote:60 miles is not a lot of time to let your piston rings seat properly . . . you should give them a good 1000 miles . . . as far as throwing it on a dyno right away - wow - i'm baffled. i just did stop and go but never pounded it or shifted hard . . . hmmm....

seams like could be a combo of a couple bad things - piston rings causing blowby and bad turbo seals...do you have the oil restrictor on your turbo line to reduce oil capacity?

i know a lot of V8 guys romp on their new motors to break them in, but I believe its just stop and go traffic that really seals the deal . . . i would've given it atleast 500 miles...
Remind me not to have you break in one of my motors. Everyone has their own "break in" method. Mine followed motomans and I actually have 10psi more compression following his method.

Stop and go traffic is BAD for seating rings. Highway is best or back open roads cause your suppose to range your RPMS and do about 70% throttle pulls.

You can also break in a new motor on 1 dyno session or at the track.

Im still saying its your the turbo oil ring. on the turbine

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If those are the only places your finding oil, I would venture a guess that you just didn't have a perfect seal on the turbo drain flange. The smoking that you noticed, what is just under the hood? The amount of oil that I can see in the pictures is tiny, and probably just a really small leak.

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^ im with these guys

garrett after all could be wrong

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Reason why im pointing to the oil ring on the turbo is because ive seen a handful of turbos just like what you pictured. Its a small enough leak where it will burn off in the exhaust housing but like any leak. it will get worse.

I had a t28 gtir tubro that looked perfect, didnt have much shaft play but once it fired up and got warm it smoked..all because it had a leaky oil ring and it was spitting it out down threw the downpipe.. I even had oil comming out of an exhaust gasket that was leaking


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