brakes again--sorry need help though

[skitz047]

Hey guys i was looking at buying this kit for my n/a since the shipping saves me so much money...

http://www.conceptzperformance...5.205

What do you think? How is stoptech/axxis ultimate pads? I've never heard of thsoe pads before. And what about the racing fluid? Thanks guys appreciate it.

[freakonaleash1187]

Looks to me like they are just stock-sized rotors. So the only upgrade you would really get out of them is the pads and SS lines.

[Nick240sx]

Looks to me like they are just stock-sized rotors. So the only upgrade you would really get out of them is the pads and SS lines.

the main noticeable difference in brakes is the change to larger calipers with 4 - 6 pistons (albeit 6 pistons is huge for a <400+ hp car)

i dont think the 600 price justifies the advantage you may or may not get. personally you can pick up slotted rotors and performance pads locally and save the shipping, along with the SS lines.

if you really want to upgrade your brakes, save up for some upgraded calipers or a big brake kit (expensive, but thats where the advantge/difference > the price)

[tg]

the main noticeable difference in brakes is the change to larger calipers with 4 - 6 pistons (albeit 6 pistons is huge for a <400+ hp car)

i dont think the 600 price justifies the advantage you may or may not get. personally you can pick up slotted rotors and performance pads locally and save the shipping, along with the SS lines.

if you really want to upgrade your brakes, save up for some upgraded calipers or a big brake kit (expensive, but thats where the advantge/difference > the price)

you can get a 13" kit which just has a caliper relocation bracket for 700$, much better braking.

[Nick240sx]

you can get a 13" kit which just has a caliper relocation bracket for 700$, much better braking.

remember though, bigger rotors doesnt always mean better braking. yes they help, but like stated before, the real advantage is an all around upgrade.

[freakonaleash1187]

But an all around upgrade will cost your $2k+. And yes, bigger rotors does mean better braking, its all in the name of torques. The farther out the clamping force of the caliper can be put, the more torque the caliper can apply into braking, resulting in better braking.

Torque = (mass)(angular acceleration)(radius)^2

So the torque increase as the square of the distance, so the farther out you put the caliper, the torque increase exponentially, increasing stopping power.

[Nick240sx]

But an all around upgrade will cost your $2k+. And yes, bigger rotors does mean better braking, its all in the name of torques. The farther out the clamping force of the caliper can be put, the more torque the caliper can apply into braking, resulting in better braking.

Torque = (mass)(angular acceleration)(radius)^2

So the torque increase as the square of the distance, so the farther out you put the caliper, the torque increase exponentially, increasing stopping power.

hence why i said, doesnt always mean better braking. yes an all around upgrade would be expensive, and like i also said very well worth it. however, you dont want a small caliper on a huge rotor for stress reasons. you will definately want to insure that it is a well made rotor.

[evildky]

not a lot of poor quality rotors on the market to my knowledge, and I agree, bigger rotors = better braking

and the stock calliper is by no means small

[Nick240sx]

not a lot of poor quality rotors on the market to my knowledge, and I agree, bigger rotors = better braking

and the stock calliper is by no means small

understood, but in this essence, hes looking a slotted / cross drilled rotors. cross drilled rotors are susceptible to cracking even with the same caliper to rotor sizes. yes you are right that there arent alot of poor quality rotors, but they still warp and crack from time to time. im just stating that you will most likely have a shorter life on the rotors using a smaller caliper, however more effective.

i agree with all of the points made in this thread, im just stating the shortened life and increase risks of rotor damage under use.

[skitz047]

thanks guys... and sorry i created a fight! lol

[Nick240sx]

thanks guys... and sorry i created a fight! lol

oh this isnt a fight haha (at least i dont think so, sorry if i offended anyone, no intent) just discussing brake matters.

[clickdoc]

if you are upgrading for looks -- just spend the money -- if you are autocrossing or tracking -- spend the money -- the z i bought from SH in VA had the $3,000 brembo brake package and after him picking me up at the airport and driving me back to his house i can see why any car even an NA can be driven hard enough to need the extra brakes -- imagine F1 style driving in the Z back & forth to work with the illlegal radar detector beeping -- that was SH (name withheld to protect the innocent) -- me -- i drive like a grandma 99% of the time -- but the brembos still look COOL !