brake ?

[pharcyd]

im looking at purchasing the brakes off of a 300z, but i have a few questions.

first what exactly do i need off the car for the brakes to work on my 96 240? second is it possible just to take the calipers and use aftermarket rotors and lines? and third i have 18*8 tsw flys on my car do i need to worry about space restrictions

also does anybody know if there is a plastic body kit for a 96 as opposed to fiberglass?

:dunce

thanks any help would be appreciated!

[pharcyd]

anybody? anything?

[nametakennow]

Space shouldn't be a problem. If it's 4 lug (I think so, from you saying it's a 96') then you can refer to the Nov issue of SCC and it should be exactly like what they did on their S13. Watch out, it's expensive.

[pharcyd]

no my car is a SE so its 5 lug!

[Excedio]

you want a plastic body kit?

[nametakennow]

Okay, then you just do the swap. It should be a straight swap because Zs are 5 lug.

[UncleBen]

they will bolt right up then. you need to get braided lines for them, because they require more brake fluid. go to http://www.pdm-racing.com and order theirs. they are a great company. you need the rotors, and calipers off a 300zx. just makin sure you knew that. and try to get rotors off a '90-'92 i think it is. maybe '93. they are better because they are aluminum, which disipates heat better than the iron of the later model 300. good luck!

[pharcyd]

so can i just use the calipers and use aftermarket rotors and lines?

i want a plastic body kit bucause it wont spider!

thanks

[UncleBen]

as long as you get rotors that are for a 300zx, yes you can use them. and yea just make sure your lines are big enough.

[nametakennow]

I think so. You can probably take the entire brake if you want to, I think they're Brembo (or is it Brembro, I can't ever remember).

[nametakennow]

Excuse me, they might be Brembos. It depends on whether or not its a "track model."

[pharcyd]

lol ok!so i can just swap straight over then?

also does anybody know anything about a plastic body kit?

[nametakennow]

Think so(someone else can affirm that). Try a search, both on this site and on Google or something for the kit.

[NiSilS14]

fiberglass wouldnt warp as much like plastic (just a thought)

[UncleBen]

if you are gettin the brakes off a 300zx, any brake will work. they bolt on. just swap out your lines.

[nametakennow]

PHEW! I wasn't totally off, I assumed you meant a ZX, not an old Z (there was no X when it was a Datsun, right?)?

[pharcyd]

ya i know it will warp but the roads in montana suck *** and im worried about the front bumper cover spidering to all hells.thanks all for the help on the brakes:)

[pharcyd]

no its a 90's 300 tt

[UncleBen]

good. you are good to go if you get all the stuff off a '90. how much you payin for your stuff? i wanna do the brake swap sumtime.....but first, i'm savin for an sr : )

[nametakennow]

Yeah, then its a ZX. Straight swap.

[pharcyd]

200.00 but if i use the stock rotors they will need to be turned and ill need new pads

[UncleBen]

yea. new pads aren't to pricey. where you gettin them from?

[pharcyd]

im getting them off a guy i know who is using it as a parts car for his builder he bought wrecked. the parts car is hydrolocked so he is just trying to get his initial investment out of it!

should i take all four brakes or just the front?

[UncleBen]

get all four!!!!! if u can, do it man. get all four of those mugs....

[nametakennow]

[quote=" Lost_To_A_K-Car

Just the 280ZX. There was no X series for the 240 or 260. [/quote]

I know, but we were talking 300s, so it doesn't really matter.

[nametakennow]

Dammit! I lose again! I forgot about that minor detail...

Yet my knowledge grows...

[C-Kwik]

The 300ZX brakes will bolt right up to any 5-lug 240sx. You do not actually need to change the lines. If you have a machine shop machine the area around the brake line opening so it is truly flat(only a very small amount of material needs to be removed), then a banjo fitting can work. The stock banjo bolt will need to be shortened or you will need to source a shorter one. I ran this set up just fine and ended up getting ss lines later, but am still using a banjo fitting. I've used this set-up now for almost two years with no probs.

Wheel clearance is an issue. The calipers protrude out farther towards the spokes of the wheels. Spoke design and wheel offset is critical.

As far as aluminum is concerned, the biggest advantage is less unsprung weight than it's iron counterpart. Heat dissipation should not even be mentioned in this context as if the calipers have to dissapate heat, than your brakes are not adequate. Plus, most streetable pads will overheat before brake fluid boils anyways. The Z32 rotors are more than adequate for most tracks on a 240sx.

Lastly, the aluminum calipers were only available from 90-92. And in 90, the non-turbos had 26 mm thick rotors and the turbo had 30 mm thick rotors. 91 and newer Z32's all had 30 mm thick rotors regardless of turbo or non-turbo. The 26 mm version has slightly smaller calipers as well, so it may be more likely to clear the wheel. If you got a wheel that some shop recommended the size for, then chances are it will not fit. On a 8 inch wide wheel, minimally, you should be looking at negative 35mm offset. Assuming you have a fairly flat spoke design with little or no dish. It can vary from wheel to wheel. If you can it might be easier to check fitment by trying to bolt up your wheel to your friend's 300ZX and see if it will clear or not.

Lastly, the Z32 aluminum rotors are all made by Sumitomo. The Z33(350Z) Track Model's brakes are made by Brembo.

[APEXi240]

Well, as there was never a Datsun 300 series, I assumed you were talking about earlier models.

Not to knit-pick, but the 84 300zx was a Datsun...the Z31 with the butt ugly tail lights...

[Tino]

way to freakin expensive, I'd rather buy the sh*t that makes you go fast.

[APEXi240]

You're lucky....if you know the 85-87 taillights....the middle part is all more taillight, and the style of the lights looks like a 280zx, but just a lot bigger, very ugly.