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Can someone take a ruler and measure the length of your brake pedal with the cover off. I just finished my 5spd swap and I need to cut my pedal and I want to put the manual pedal cover on it. thanx


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the same as the clutch pedal?

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it is the same as the clutch pedal.

put the pad over the brake, trace it out, and cut it a bit smaller than the brake pedal. Keep in mind for the s14, the brake placement is going to be too close to the clutch if you cut it.

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krash wrote:it is the same as the clutch pedal.

put the pad over the brake, trace it out, and cut it a bit smaller than the brake pedal. Keep in mind for the s14, the brake placement is going to be too close to the clutch if you cut it.
Really? Mine works just fine and I cut it. Actually I drove my car for about a week before I even cut the auto pedal down. It was close to the clutch but they didnt' touch. I traced with a sharpie than kept trimming with a dremel until the pedal cover would go on. I still need to buy one for my clutch pedal now.

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ya mine is close but as long as I have the brake pedal cover off, the pedals dont touch at all an it is driveable. I am still going to cut it though of course. but thanks for the help guys.

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yea it won't touch, but theyre close. Its a weird feeling.

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i dont understand why people cut the brake pedal. you know for every car that the clutch pedal came out of there was a manual trans brake pedal too. just blows my mind why they wouldnt just swap the brake pedal when doing the 5 speed swap. i know when I did my 5 speed swap i chucked my auto brake pedal!

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An m/t brake pedal cover is like 5 bucks from Nissan. An M/T brake pedal is somewhat harder to find used, and when you do find them they are more expensive than 5 dollars. Cutting the brake pedal for my s13 worked fine as far as placement goes.

For the s14, I'd suggest an m/t brake though. Maybe it was just how we cut it. We tried to cut it so that it was as close to the accelerator as possible, but it still came out closer to the brake.

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krash wrote:yea it won't touch, but theyre close. Its a weird feeling.
Mine is not really that close at all. Do you really know what you are talking about. Have you swapped an s14 before or are you just spouting crap out? :rolleyes:
motoman399 wrote:i dont understand why people cut the brake pedal. you know for every car that the clutch pedal came out of there was a manual trans brake pedal too. just blows my mind why they wouldnt just swap the brake pedal when doing the 5 speed swap. i know when I did my 5 speed swap i chucked my auto brake pedal!
I looked for the 2 together for a decent deal for a while. I couldnt' find a local donor car to just pull them myself. I actually found a decent deal on a handful of parts together and one of the items was the clutch pedal. I figured I would try it (I needed the other parts anyway) and if the brake pedal didn't fit/work right after trimming I would buy one from ebay or something. It fits just fine and the spacing is fine. I cut from both sides of the pedal to offset it where it should be.
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i understand its not usually the buyer who acts on not getting the brake pedal, i think a lot of people who sell the 5 speed stuff are too lazy or something. but every car that has a M/T has the clutch pedal and the M/T brake pedal lol

i guess if cutting it works for you then there isnt any complication. but im glad i had the M/T brake pedal in my car. :)

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Sounds like you have swapped one crash you posted while I was. I would say it was where you cut it if it feels akward.

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fiznowler wrote:Sounds like you have swapped one, crash you posted while I was. I would say it was where you cut it if it feels akward.
fixed :gapteeth:

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motoman399 wrote:i understand its not usually the buyer who acts on not getting the brake pedal, i think a lot of people who sell the 5 speed stuff are too lazy or something. but every car that has a M/T has the clutch pedal and the M/T brake pedal lol

i guess if cutting it works for you then there isnt any complication. but im glad i had the M/T brake pedal in my car. :)
I don't get that either.... The sets sell all the time and for more money than just the clutch pedal alone. It doesn't make since at all. I would prefer to have the pedal as well and would have swapped it if I found one but I prob wouldn't mess with it now since mine works perfect as is.

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Not to beat a dead horse but maybe it will help a newb in a future search. This is what the cut brake pedal looks like with clutch pedal mounted and a cover on it. This is in my s14.
These are the only pics I have of just the pedals.
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I dont' know if you can see in this pic or not but it is all I have I dont' have a good way to mess with it at work.
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wait, I actually think thats the same placement as my friends s14. Maybe I'm just on crack.

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i remember when i did my 5 speed swap, i had the clutch pedal in for a few days before i took out the auto. i seem to remember that the auto brake pedal was high up than the clutch pedal? is this right?

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Can find a S13/S14 with manual pedals at the junk yard? Take them out of one of these, they are the same.
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motoman399 wrote:i dont understand why people cut the brake pedal. you know for every car that the clutch pedal came out of there was a manual trans brake pedal too. just blows my mind why they wouldnt just swap the brake pedal when doing the 5 speed swap. i know when I did my 5 speed swap i chucked my auto brake pedal!
well accuatly changing the brake pedal out is accuatly harder than putting in the clutch, its a bigger pain in the a** so its just easier to cut it :gapteeth:

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took me about 5 minutes........... just saying

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so I just made a nice discovery.. when doing the swap,for the shift boot with the ring, all you need is the plate that seals the auto shifter. it has a rubber boot with a hole in it for the shifter and you can dremel the metal plate to make the ring.

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:Can find a S13/S14 with manual pedals at the junk yard? Take them out of one of these, they are the same.
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The clutch pedals are not the same. The brake pedals maybe i don't know for sure so I couldn't say eitherway. The s13 has the spacer built into the firewall of the chassis to get the clutch pedal where it needs to be. The s14 firewall has no spacer because it is built into the pedal. If you are using an s13 clutch pedal in an s14 you have to use washers or something else to space it properly or your pedal will be way off. I dont' see how the s14 pedal would work in an s13 without modification to either the s13 firewall or the s14 pedal. I have never tried and don't know why you would since s13 pedals are way easier to find.
Wow that sounds confusing.

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JDMskrilla wrote:so I just made a nice discovery.. when doing the swap,for the shift boot with the ring, all you need is the plate that seals the auto shifter. it has a rubber boot with a hole in it for the shifter and you can dremel the metal plate to make the ring.
I ran into a few things like this. I put my car backtogether without the manual interior trim with boot. I know if you have the megan or b&m shortshifter there is enough room to still shift into all gears with the auto trim piece in. I of course switched it to the manual piece with the boot as soon as I figured out where the hell I had put it. :facepalm:

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fiznowler is that your stock tan leather or is that reupholstered? I have the tan also but mine is much lighter.

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It is stock tan leather. It came out of black 97 se car. I have never seen it before but the car is 100% stock it came out of. I love the color of it. IF you look in my photobucket there is more pics.

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i hate you.

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numbnuts240 wrote:i hate you.
Why would you say that.......
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must just be a shadow cuz they look lighter in your photobucket pics. do you still have that parts car?

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Some of it lol what do you need? I have pulled the seats, tails, and front clip.

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fiznowler wrote:
OutToWinPAHC wrote:Can find a S13/S14 with manual pedals at the junk yard? Take them out of one of these, they are the same.
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The clutch pedals are not the same. The brake pedals maybe i don't know for sure so I couldn't say eitherway. The s13 has the spacer built into the firewall of the chassis to get the clutch pedal where it needs to be. The s14 firewall has no spacer because it is built into the pedal. If you are using an s13 clutch pedal in an s14 you have to use washers or something else to space it properly or your pedal will be way off. I dont' see how the s14 pedal would work in an s13 without modification to either the s13 firewall or the s14 pedal. I have never tried and don't know why you would since s13 pedals are way easier to find.
Wow that sounds confusing.

Okay S13 and maxima use the same pedal.

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Wasn't trying to be an a**. I know when I was looking for all the info before I did my swap there is a ton of bad info. I just wanted to clarify. I have an s13 pedal in my car it works fine. i just put a stack of washers between fire wall and pedal and added/removed until it was the right height. That being said the maxima pedal should work same in s14. I will still probably keep an eye out for an s14 pedal set for cheap. It works great and isn't visable but i know it is there and for some reason it bugs me lol.


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