Boxter 2.0L Swap?

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Gcustoms
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I see alot of motor swaps on this site, Rb25, 20, 26, Sr20, Ca18, 2jz, ls1, the list goes on.
but I tried the search button and couldnt find anything on a Subaru Impreza WRX STI Boxter 2.0L swap (EJ20 DET)
Has anyone ever attempted this? I can imagine valve cover clearance would be fun, but I'm thinking more of the transmission details. any info would b appreciated

I want to go EJ20 because I like the sound of the boxter, also you can pick them up for around $600, roughly same price as a ka24de (sadly) and lets face it; I'm 17 years old and its my first car odds are its gonna blow sometime!


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You're going to have to do a lot of fabricating, and wiring.

Oh, and you're going to need a lot of money.

Oh, and the engine wont fit.

Oh, and parts are going to cost more.

Did I mention you're going to need a lot of money?

Oh, and you're paying too much for your ka's.

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krash wrote:You're going to have to do a lot of fabricating, and wiring.

Oh, and you're going to need a lot of money.

Oh, and the engine wont fit.

Oh, and parts are going to cost more.

Did I mention you're going to need a lot of money?

Oh, and you're paying too much for your ka's.
:werd:

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Seeing as it's a boxer engine and not a boxter I'm gonna say stay away.

Take it from a guy who tried a somewhat crazy (not as crazy as your idea though) swap when he was 17-18. It sucks. Make your car look good and run right now. Focus on the engineering feats later.

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krash wrote: Oh, and you're paying too much for your ka's.
lmfao

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Yeah there are alot of engines that are cheap but its the amount of work to get them into a 240 that stops people from doing certain swaps

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Well, there's a local shop thats actually in the process of this swap right now. Excepty they're putting the motor in the back. Should be pretty awesome.

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Well its not like it was a bad idea. I say try it.. It'd take fab work, but it'd be super unique and really interesting. Maybe you'll start a new trend? Or you could wait till the FT-86 comes out.

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Gcustoms wrote:I'm 17 years old and its my first car odds are its gonna blow sometime!
:facepalm:

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honestly man i dont think youl pull it off but i say do it anyways cause if you do pull it off well hell yah man much props for you wish you the best of luck

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A) by the time you get done with the insane fabrication and buy all the other swap necessities, the cheap price of the engine will be completely pointless.
B) you want an engine because of its sound?
C) you had to ask, and admit that youre only 17, therefore you obviously have no where near the know how to pull this off.
D) "im only 17 so im going to blow a motor anyways"... with that mindset, YES, YES YOU ARE.
E) by the time you buy and fabricate everything for this swap, you could have bought a complete RB26 swap and built it. could have bought about 10 SR20s.
F) lets ask the mods to delete this and pretend it never happened.

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Hell, an N/A KAde with with headers and a catback sounds like a WRX. Save your money for maintainance. There's no reason your motor should blow if you take care of it.

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gigabit240 wrote:Well its not like it was a bad idea. I say try it.. It'd take fab work, but it'd be super unique and really interesting. Maybe you'll start a new trend? Or you could wait till the FT-86 comes out.
Its a terribly bad idea, especially for him. Lets say he actually got the money together for the motorset. The fab-work itself, assuming that he'll have to pay for it, will drive him into debt, at the age of 17. The engine does not fit in the bay. You'd have to hack up the strut towers to fit it. At that point all the time and money put into it will not yield equivalent results.

It was a unique idea and it would be cool to SEE, but it would suck to be the one that built it.

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simmode1 wrote:Hell, an N/A KAde with with headers and a catback sounds like a WRX. Save your money for maintainance. There's no reason your motor should blow if you take care of it.
x2. If you don't ream the crap out of your car all the time, then it probably won't blow up.

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If you're going to put in time and money for a swap that requires a lot of fabrication, why not swap in an engine that is worthwhile?

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I see what your all saying, its in my understanding that I would have to come up with an extra 1.5" on either side, so I went to the shop where my car is (currently having the frame done) and i had a look on where i could maximize the engine bay space between the strut towers then I remembered the rally car build where they converted the entire front end to tube chassis. I know it seems crazy but i have access to materials, tools, and equipment thanks to the board of education.
I'm not talking about doing this tomorow either, I'm saying when it does come time for a swap. When the engine is on its last leg (previous owner drifted the thing... HARD) I think I would have more to gain from an ej20 than any other motor.

I'm aware 600 seems steep for a ka24de, but 240sx's just arent readily available here. I might see one per month driving around.

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Wooooo lots of negativity on here regarding this idea.

Gcustoms, A lot of what people is saying is very true. You will spend less time, money, energy, and most likely have fewer problems dropping in a more common motor to the car, such as a KA, or SR.

Though, whats the fun in that, you want a challenge, something unique, or strange! I believe it's very possible to do this, part of the reason I believe this is because I also have considered doing this. Started out as a joke with my Subaru friends since I like the S13 body style so much, now I am researching the possibilities.

Things you're going to have to consider is making it a strait up racing car. ditch all your electronics, complete after market engine management IMO. That would be the easiest way, all new wiring in the car for the gauges, dump your AC and PS too. I mean if you're going to do it, do it right. I am not sure if the transmission spindle would fit in the Subaru crank, it may need some modification. Keep that in mind. Also you'll want to check on clearance issues for the turbo and down piping, as it would be up against the firewall in a 240SX if it mounts directly where the transmission sits now. You may even have to move the transmission forward to fit...

For me, the only way I am going to do this is if I can make it AWD. Yes, I am crazy, and I'm 27. :P

Good luck with what ever path you take.

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Gcustoms wrote:When the engine is on its last leg (previous owner drifted the thing... HARD) I think I would have more to gain from an ej20 than any other motor.

I'm aware 600 seems steep for a ka24de, but 240sx's just arent readily available here. I might see one per month driving around.
Is it running good? No problems? If so, then its probably not on its "last leg"

You won't gain anything from that motor. You would more likely lose more than you gain. Such as money and time.. You are better off swapping an SR, RB, etc.

And I guarantee that there are more 240's around your area. Just go on a local car forum.

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this is a cool idea. i never thought of it. for sure it can be done. like said you will need time/money/know how. with enough research and resources you could do it. good luck it you attempt it.


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