Bolt In Cages...Friend or Foe?

[beezkneez]

What is this communitys views on bolt in cages for a daily?
On a local forum that Im on, theres a little skirmish as to why or why you wouldnt put one in..

Personally, I dont think its a bad idea, as long as you have supporting safety mods.

Just wanted to see what yall though about it.

[TurboSauce]

bolt on cage=

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[Razi]

bolt on cage=

/thread

That had a bolt on roll BAR.

Bolt on roll CAGE =

[beezkneez]

Our cars also dont weigh the same as a stang,(if that was a stang)

Im talking about in a daily.
Since our cars are like tin cans, compared to 21st century crash standars.

[troskinatior]

Yeah, bolt in cages are good, there just not as strong as real roll cages.
And I knew 100% someone was going to post the mustang pic even before I opened it

[Razi]

Bolt on will be perfectly fine.

[beezkneez]

But the argument was what happens when youre dailying, and you get into an accident, and catch contact with the crash cage without a helmet.(aka head to bar). He had pictures to prove, but I still so it being logical to put in a bolt in.

Lol quoted from thread.
"Do you people saying a cage in a daily is a great idea put any thought into what happens in an accident?

Go take a 1'' pipe from home depot, and take a swing at someone above the ear on the left side of their head, and let us know what happens.

Then go find another friend, and give them a helmet. You'll notice friend #2 is okay, and you have a swollen nose and a couple black eyes.

Re-attempt to use common sense and tell us what you learned from the experiement, in relation to rollcages on street driven vehicles."

I dont know though.. I would feel safer wit a cage, but they give the idea that its MORE dangerous..

[beezkneez]

lol sorry for bad grammer its the keyboard.

[Dittoz7]

meh, put some of that wrap around foam they use for fast food joints jungle gyms. Don't know about you but i'd rather hit my head on a padded pipe then the other cars hood or letting the roof push it in a foot down my back.

[Razi]

They make pads to wrap the rollcages in.
I'd use that if I ever got a rollcage.

[simmode1]

They make pads to wrap the rollcages in.
I'd use that if I ever got a rollcage.

Will that stuff keep you melon from cracking like an egg if you hit your head on the cage in an accident if you don't have a helmet on? Or is it just for a false sense of security?

[Dittoz7]

Well it depends how hard you hit it, still better then nothing...right?

[simmode1]

Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking. No cages in my daily. Thanks.

Seems like a cage without a helmet could potentially cause waaay more harm than the typical accident that a daily driver might be in.

[troskinatior]

Oh i didnt read your fisrt post. Well I think it would be more danerous if you get in a accident unless you flip. The reason it could be worse is because if the accident is big enough where the frame would bend that would also bend the cage and if you head hits that in a accident then your skrewed. And I would think a weld in cage would be safer in a accident because it stiffens the car alot more which would prevent the frame bending less. Thats atleast what im thinking

[Skyline_BNR34]

Put foam on it and you'll be fine. What do you think those helmets have in them? It's a foam that's hard enough to protect from hits and soft enough to not hurt too much.

Hockey helmets have foam in them, it's hard but not too hard.

[beezkneez]

I feel like youre on h240 simmode.

And I didnt even think about putting foam around the bars either.. thinking it would be fine.

Well Im gonna put a cage in the daily.
And its gonna be a godspeed



Pics when it arrives

[simmode1]

I feel like youre on h240 simmode.

Not sure what that means, but there's plenty of other methods of bracing your 240 besides installing a rollcage that you know you're not gonna be wearing a helmet with. But whatever. Do what you wanna do. Just try to remember and get a decent harness to hold you in place & keep your skull intact.

[Razi]

And its gonna be a godspeed

Nooooooooo

[costa_rican13]

i often think of getting a cage. and ive read that if you bolt it up then weld the seams of the bolts and thick plates in the floor its good. but yes get foam padding. thats good stuff.

[beezkneez]

Well I plan on doing the supporting mods also..
Aka stitch, sways, and aluminum bushings all around.
I just want my car to feel solid as possible, and in my own honest idiotic opinion, I will have a piece of mind, thinking my car will hopefully hold up in a crash.

I see no reason for my head hitting the tubing busting my head to the white meat if Im strapped in properly.. Especially when Im just daily-ing around, with occasions of spirited sidewayz-ness with some locals. All else will be at the track.

Also, it passes tech inspection so I can tandem around my parts, and who likes to drift by themselves now a days?

I know a whole arse load of people arent going to agree with this, but Im ordering......


Knock off Brides with 4 points..
Knock off Miracle X
and <small>godspeed cage</small>.
Lol and godspeed arms all around..

+2 for a knock off car. Cannot wait to start the build. The car will be made to slide, so it will be practical for sliding. Car will be day-lied so I will make sure its solid enough to get me to and from work, until I get a cafe.. then full track dedication.

[beezkneez]

...not to mention two layers of playground padding sponsered from the local MC'Ds.

[simmode1]

I see no reason for my head hitting the tubing busting my head to the white meat if Im strapped in properly..

Knock off Brides with 4 points..
Knock off Miracle X
and <small>godspeed cage</small>.
Lol and godspeed arms all around..

Dear god. Strapped properly into knockoff Brides inside a knockoff rollcage. I'm not gonna start a debate about the quality of these items, but if you goolgle pics of rollcages in 240's, I think you'll see how easy it will be to hit your head on tubing if your knockoff seat decides to collapse like a paper cup.

[beezkneez]

My good friend, has had knock off brides for almost 2 years now, and he probably drifts and does a whole bunch more spirited driving then 87% of the people on here.

When you buy a product and can give me a review of how it has worked for you, then I will consider your two cents.

Until then, Im gonna save my pennies and buy the parts I need to be functional.

And I lied, Im getting ISIS arms all the way around.

[simmode1]

You asked for the community's views. Don't get all sensitive if they're not super supportive of your ideas. To be honest, I'd be all for your plan if this were a track only car. Because you'd be wearing a helmet in that case. But without the helmet, thats a no go for me. I'm not gonna trust that padding alone to protect me from brain damage. The harness would be the most helpful, IMO.

But anyways, you clearly have your mind set. Do what you want. I've said my piece.

[Razi]

The welds on the set of Godspeed FLCA I have in my garage have pitiful welds on them.
I'd feel safer stock, than to have a rollcage welded by Godspeed. :\

[simmode1]

This might help you:
godspeed-roll-cage-t409094.html

[Crazyirish]

For me to be ok with a rollcage in a daily driver I would need proper seats and harnesses. And by proper I don't mean the cheapest you can find.

[Metal Angel]

240s actually hold up surprisingly well in street accidents. Not saying your car won't be totaled... but you will be protected. I am all for cages with padding... I can't see how that would hurt anymore than a helmet against a cage without padding... and if you have a proper bucket and harness you shouldn't hit your head anyway. However, if you are getting safety equipment, don't buy cheap. Get real, proven equipment, or stay oem. Bride, Cusco, and Takata are proven safe. OEM is proven safe. Knockoffs are likely to injure you a lot more than staying OEM.

Remember, buy the best and you will only cry once.

[Crazyirish]

240s actually hold up surprisingly well in street accidents.

QFT. In my first 240sx I was involved in 3 accidents where the "other" car was totalled. 2 were full size sedans. I drove away from all 3. Of course, none were side impacts on the 240. Still, I was impressed.

[OutToWinPAHC]

I use a Cusco bolt in cage... I got it cheap, its better then no cage, and It stiffened the car up. So for now its fine, one day it will be gone.