Body exhange/legality issues?

[Two Fowty]

I've got the title and bill of sale for 2 240's.. One is a 1990 SE, which I drive right now, and the other is the same, just an 89', which has a perfect body, but a blown engine. I plan on swapping my engine over to the 89'. Simple enough. But there are issues I think.

When I swap over the engine, the VIN will disagree with the certificate of title. I'm suppose to get an MVE-1 inspection by a state patrol officer. That is pretty much all I know. I wanna know what order I have to do things in.

Do I do the swap before anything, and get the car running, and then go through with the MVE-1?

And what about insurance? Do I swap and then have my insurance changed to match my car? What else has to be done? I'm really confused, and I got a sheet from the court house that vaguely says what I have to do, but doesn't tell me things about insurance, and the order of things, and what not. Any enlightenment on how to do this would be nice.

[mrmarbles]

is an MVE-1 any different than any other inspection? Do the swap, get the car inspected, and sell the one you're pulling the motor out of.

I don't see whats so confusing?

[airman86]

there's nothing wrong with putting an engine from one car into another.

[Two Fowty]

I know, its an engine swap, big deal, it happens all the time. which is what i'm saying. but then i hear about this s***, and what the hell. here's a segment from what I got from the tags and registration place:

"Whenever a vehicle is altered by the installation of another body, which makes the vehicle identification number disagree with the number of the certificate of title, the vehicle owner is REQUIRED to apply for a body exchange title. An MVE-1 issued by the Highway Patrol is required."

I mean, what the hell? Is that referring to people who are literally swapping everything over (ecu, wiring, engine, transmission, etc.)? I find this really stupid that I have to go through all this trouble just to swap over my engine and transmission. I just wanna swap, switch over tags and insurance, and be done.

And don't quote me on this, cause I'm not 100% positive, but an MVE-1, is just a VIN number verification test or whatever. I was told by someone it included a full car inspection, such as emissions, but in Kansas, we don't have emissions testing, so whatever.

Am I making this way harder than it seems, can i just swap it over to the new car and transfer tags and insurance and be done? Or do I really have to do all the testing and stuff.

[zerepdivad]

Man they probably won't even notice when you go get it inspected.

[Two Fowty]

Well what are they going to test, if the actually do a full test on my car?

I know if they did emissions test I'd fail, because I don't have a catalatic converter and I have an exhaust leak. What else do they check?

[heartofaskyline]

are you wanting to switch vins from one car to the other? if so then thats where the mve-1 inspection comes in

[Two Fowty]

No, I don't see the point in switching VINs.. I'm just gonna transfer the engine and transmission, and then a few other small things (seats, wheels, etc).

[EviL inside]

big difference between what you're worrying about and what you're actually doing.

it's like you're freaking out over major surgery just before having a splinter removed.

just do the motor swap, put a tag on the 89 and switch your insurance over, then scrap the 90 and its title.

do you have smog nazi's as bad as Kookyfornia?
Modified by EviL inside at 5:04 AM 3/13/2009

[EazyBreazy]

dood your turning basic math into nuclear physics. Swap the engines, get the '89 registered and insured, cancel insurance on the '90 and sell it, registration is paid on it, and tracked by vin so just let it run out or if you sell it before it runs out the new owner will re register it.

[gingerbredman]

whoa EvilInside you're just a across a few bridges from me

..Jeewhiz I thought you literally meant swapping bodies, like dropping the chassis off one onto another frame. idk.. but there should be no problem with simply swapping the motor, they probably don't check the engine numbers, I don't know why they would..

..but if you were in my predicament, waiting for a title on another 240, you could swap the vin plates and anything else conveniently visible (if no title) and 'primer' it the same color as the other one, use the same tag and insurance off of it and

but.. I'm gonna just try to get a title, no moolah for infinite black primer

oh snap.. i gotta post pics of the se up 2morrow!!

[xX RB Xx]

wow

just swap the engines out.. if they ask just tell them the last engine was blown up or whatever.

[gingerbredman]

The OP makes these inspector dudes sound scary

[Mangid]

What the hell are you talking about? They only know what you tell them... you think anybody is gonna notice if you swap the same exact motor in? Who cares? Swap it and go along your merry way.

Oh and make sure you take a hammer to those headlights

[DrifterXRPS13]

Yea this isn't rocket science, just swap and take care of it.

[SkinnyKibbles]

just get it inspected at a gas station like i did. my e-brake and low beams didn't work and they still passed me. chances of them caring about the VIN on your engine are slim.

[Two Fowty]

but i still have my running car out on a loan, and they have the title, so how does my car being on a loan affect it?

[Two Fowty]

my running car is still on a loan, so do i do the swap andthen give the bank the title to the new car?

EDIT: sorr bout double post, comp is messing up and i can't see when it replies

[nevertheless]

Just call up your insurance and explain it to them.

[S133P3R]

you make "McPherson KS" sound worse than f***ing california for car regulations. swap it and f***ing drive it already, how can they prove you even did a swap?

[xX RB Xx]

my running car is still on a loan, so do i do the swap andthen give the bank the title to the new car?

EDIT: sorr bout double post, comp is messing up and i can't see when it replies

wow dude your overthinking this whole process

[S133P3R]

wow dude your overthinking this whole process

s***... at least he doesnt owe his chick $2000 for it... we know how that story ends...

[Two Fowty]

okay the way i get it is i just swap over stuff and transfer insurance and tags.. i get it now..

but my dad is being stupid and intends on going through will all the crap we were told to do, like the inspection.

I don't get it. How do i convince him that i dont have to do that, cuz its just an engine swap.

[S133P3R]

find out what the inspection is really for and what they check. your car should pass as long as you have both titles, i dont really see a problem here.

-i dont think insurance will care about the swap, more just local authprities.

[Two Fowty]

the inspection is to verify the VIN, because when i do the swap the vin wont match the title

[S133P3R]

ok, so switch the dash boards with VINs? no one willl ever know....

what do you have to do to have a legal motor swap? that is what you need to be sear hing for, i recommend your local DMV page. then comeback...

[rustest86]

i know down here that they checked all 3 vins on 1 of my old cars when mve-1 inspection done. but i had to have it done because the car was previously totaled. they also do it if the car has been uninsured for more than 5 years. they make sure all vins on the vehicle match the title. but if you have a title that matchs the vins on the car, no worrys. do the swap and transfer you insurance to the new shell.easy enough if you have a matching title.

[gingerbredman]

ok.. so they'll check the vins eh? well if you're just swapping the motor, then just swap the id plate in the engine bay

..well, I'm not sure if it's got the vin on it too.. nevermind it won't matter because the inspectors aren't going to check the frickin block and transmission and all that just to verify that the 20+ year old motor is original

They'd be idiots if they couldn't fathom that imo

Do it. I would. Actually I am swapping motors this week with another 240. All the inspection is down here is checking lights/signals, window tint, and seat belts, that's pretty much it lol

The insurance company never even sees our vehicles

[S13Joe]

You are so good at coming up with these retarded threads, then people give you the answers but you think they are wrong... Hmm, this is for you:

1.SWAP THE f***ING ENGINE2.GET IT INSPECTED3.HAVE FUN LOOKING COOL WITH THOSE GAY HEADLIGHTS

Custom title? No thanks, just helping a friend out.

[sebazztard]

lmao, i love your replys dgk, all of them.



must be a ny temper thing i understand.