mojocp wrote:Hi, just a few quick questions.
I understand why #2 is necessary - because the original cable did not supply the requisite power for future iphones. In theory, this adapter sends the power to the right pin and the 30 pin connection is now properly powered for the newer (relatively) iphones and (for what we want it for) the bluetooth adapters that use that same connection.
Great... but then why is #3 necessary? If i am reading correctly, both of those devices do the same thing - allow the non-powered connection to now power the device. Can you see if your system works without #3?
Last question, does this solve the issue about certain bluetooth adapters not working, since the power is all normal? I see that you are running a really pricey adapter (~$80) and there are many others that are cheaper ($15).
Thanks for the help.
(I just want to run music from my android. I dont care about steering wheel controls - just dont want to mess with wires anymore)
mikeymike wrote:I am curious about mojocp's questions as well. What is the exact purpose of the scosche adapter and do you think there are cheaper bluetooth receivers that will work in place of your WMA 1000?
Unlike mojocp i do care about steering wheel controls.
Ah thank you, I'm sorry if I came off demanding, that definitely wasn't my intention. I appreciate your contributionpilotbob3 wrote:The only thing I got working with steering wheel controls is the WMA1000. I have bought several other adapters which never get recognized by the Infiniti audio system. I believe the Infiniti looks for some sort of signaling telling it that it's connected to an Ipod. I don't know the Apple protocol, and I don't have the equipment to decode and decipher the connections. If you, or anyone else can, that'd be great!
The cost of the setup I describe is probably about $130 all in. For me, it was well worth it, and I spent a lot of $$ in stuff that ended up not working.
You know I was wondering that too. It's quite possible since this is an older ipod connector and won't charge new ipods/iphones...mojocp wrote:I guess the real question is whether the factory ipod/iphone connection into the car's stereo system is digital or analogue.
In theory, if its just a L/R pass-through, we're just talking about a fancy 30-pin connection to give you the same output as the headphone jack *(but which is also capable of sending display data and receiving play/pause commands, etc. - but for now I'm just focusing on sound).
The bitrate via A2DP may not be as high as you would think. I remember someone doing a calculation of the maximum bitrate that bluetooth could possibly allow and it wasn't substantial. I dunno how relevant that is to you but yeah...mojocp wrote:As far as I know, the pure-digital setups, wherein the data is actually sent in digital form to the stereo can be fairly pricey. Then again, this infiniti system (and even the cable) was pricey... I dont know what to think.
Play/Pause/FF/RW controls would be great if possible, but the bottom line is that I was pursuing this solution because I thought the end result would be the superior digital connection. Otherwise, yes, I'd just go get a simple powered bluetooth receiver with a headphone output for the L/R (red/white) connections in the center console.
Thank you for posting these things. You're awesome.pilotbob3 wrote: Here are a few links for the wiring diagram from the AV manual with the pinouts, adapter and signal levels.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1v69eifhnlkwv ... inouts.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xzfmlnx85a7ak ... wiring.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fwma2k3zm1kml ... ignals.pdf
This might help someone who wants to try getting a more inexpensive solution than the WMA1000 working.
It goes to a simple USB charger. As I mentioned in the original post it provides 5 volts to the adapters to power the WMA1000.brc0488 wrote:does anyone know what the micro USB that is plugged into the side does?
It works.chanu wrote:Hi guys,
I'm thinking of buying this setup and was wondering if this steering wheel controls work for internet radio such as Pandora?
I can relate to your claim of being "stubborn"; and for the record, I give full props to the OP who took the time and money to figure out a solution which works. Brilliant work. My problem is, I cannot deal with all these adapters and wires....even if the majority of them are concealed in the console. (To reiterate, this is MY hang up...not anyone else') Seeing wires laying around reminds me WAY too much of the crap cars I drove in high school and college. Also, I'm an Android user and until one of these Bluetooth adapters supports A2DP profiles with full ID3 data (i.e., song title, artist, etc info on the Infiniti display), I'm holding off. Very glad to hear others are liking this setup. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before someone figures out a more integrated solution.tfm55x wrote:Thanks to the OP for passing this info along! I've used various "baling wire and duct tape" solutions to listen to music in my '08 G35x, ever since I bought an iPhone 5. I already owned the Scosche IFWA charging adapter which converted the 12 volt charging voltage on the Infiniti iPod connector to 5 volts, and I thought I'd try that connector with the ViSeeO + Scosche dock adapter, before opening the package on the CableJive dock adapter. That combination works, sort of. The problem is that the Infiniti audio system will time out while trying to connect to an iPod before you can successfully pair via Bluetooth. When the stereo times out, it sends a reset command to whatever device is connected to the iPod connector, and this interrupts the pairing sequence. I managed to unplug/replug the ViSeeO device and complete the pairing sequence, and now everything works fine. I did this because I didn't want to dedicate the 12 volt power port in the center console to the iPod interface. (Call me stubborn.) I'll hang on to the CableJive dock adapter just in case I get frustrated with this arrangement. I would love to know what "secret sauce" is in that Scosche dock adapter that makes it necessary in this application, and I think I'll take it apart at some point to see what's inside. I would like to avoid the several inches of dock adapter devices in a row that take up so much room in my center console, if I can. At any rate, thanks again!
Really glad to know that you got it to work with just the dockStubz+!- Nice job. Wondering if CableJive changed the pinout of the adapter to work better. I hope this helps anyone else trying to work this one out.gw611589700 wrote:Hi pilotbob3,
just want to say thank you for posting this great test.
I received all the parts you mentioned this morning, and after my test, I don't need "The Scosche IFWAHBK home dock pass port charging adapter" to get this set up powered.
just simply connected the " CableJive dockStubz+ Charge converter " to the "Tune2Air WMA1000" and used a micro-usb cable to charge the "CableJive dockStubz+ Charge converter" like you did in the picture.
everything works perfectly.