Blew off, STALLED WHILE DRIVING, Power steering gone, nearly crashed!

[chickentendah]

Okay, I just wanted to warn those of you who run your blow off valves atmospherically. Either recirculate or go get an electronic correction device!

So I have been running an open bov for literally half a year without any stalling issues until yesterday. I was driving at relatively low speeds @ 28 mph, blew off after stepping on it in second gear then all of a sudden my steering wheel locked while i was turning at some street. It took me about 4 seconds to realize that the car had stalled; the red lights on the lower right corner of the instrument cluster hinted at it. I can't remember if I was in gear or in neutral (panic!), but starting the car up had no effect on the power steering. Luckily, there was no cars behind me, and since I wasn't going at high speeds, I was able to safely brake and veer off to the side of a street before crashing into anything. Friggin scary!!!!!! Imagine if this was on the freeway at speeds in excess of 70mph!!!! The power steering came back after I shut off the car completely, and started the car.

I won't have time to install my HKS Super AFR w/ EIDS until later on. In the meantime, I'm going to drive conservatively and suppress any excess blowing off.

BUT, my question is this: for those of you who have stalled while driving, how did you safely recover from your stall while the car was in motion? or to make the question more interesting, imagine this emergency scenario:

you're driving pretty hard while merging on the freeway, you blow off really hard after shifting from 3rd to 4th and your car stalls/power steering fails while you're going straight on the freeway at 70mph. WHAT DO YOU DO!?!?!?!

[msaskin]

Freeway speeds? Put car in 5th gear then pop-start it. Easier than having to reach for the keys to start the car.

~matt

[chickentendah]

...pop-start it...

Hmm please explain what you mean in step-by-step instructions (clutchpedal/shifter/gaspedal). Thanks!

[Hijacker]

hell, you can pop the clutch in any gear to get the car restarted.

[Silvia007]

hell, you can pop the clutch in any gear to get the car restarted.

At highway speeds??? I wouldn't put it into any gear, think, going 70mph and you pop it into 1st..... ouch.... that would sooooo hurt.

What you can do if it stalls while your in motion, put it into gear and let off the clutch, your car will restart because the rotational motion of your drive line acts like a starter.

Try it.

[nissanrcer240]

Have you ever drove a car that doesnt have any power steering? Just do like you would if you were in that car if your power steering fails. Powersteering isnt a necesity for driving

[chickentendah]

What you can do if it stalls while your in motion, put it into gear and let off the clutch, your car will restart because the rotational motion of your drive line acts like a starter.Try it.

I would like to avoid getting myself into that frightening experience again at all costs

Ahhh, yes, what you're saying makes sense. It's the same idea of a push-start right---except, at higher speeds?

So your key is still in the "ON" position while your engine and wheels are turning via the transmission/engaged clutch/drive shaft. But how and when is the fuel and spark coming in to get the car started??

[Hijacker]

At highway speeds??? I wouldn't put it into any gear, think, going 70mph and you pop it into 1st..... ouch.... that would sooooo hurt.

you know what i mean. but say i was going up an on ramp when it happened (most likely time to be shifting on the highway) and i'm only in third when it happens. I'm not gonna upshift to 5th and have the car restall on me once i pop it

[chickentendah]

Have you ever drove a car that doesnt have any power steering? Just do like you would if you were in that car if your power steering fails. Powersteering isnt a necesity for driving

Im sure cars without power steering use different mechanisms for reasonable ease of steering.

During my emergency, the steering wheel was close to locked. If you'd like to make bowel movements in your underpants too, turn off your 240SX while you are driving, and you'll know what I'm talking about.

[SET240SX]

Just do what i did and remove the power steering. I like the feel of control without it. Then you don't have to worry about loosing it if your car stalls.

[Silvia007]

So your key is still in the "ON" position while your engine and wheels are turning via the transmission/engaged clutch/drive shaft. But how and when is the fuel and spark coming in to get the car started??

With your key still in the on position, your car is still supplying power to your ignition, injectors, and fuel pump. Those are not working because then engine stalled, so once you get the engine cranking again, turning the CAS, the CAS then tells when to send fuel and when to fire. Just like a normal start squence.

[creophus]

I've stalled before, but if you pay attention and let off the clutch while the thing is in gear, it won't stall.

Anyone using an S-AFC or something similar?

[chickentendah]

There's nothing better than knowing how to handle an emergency when it occurs. Now i'll know what to do.

Thanks!!!!

[ItzGenX]

In hot weather when my idle speeds are more near normal, mine will stall. The RPM always drop like a rock to begin with because of the TODA flywheel. It's an everyday thing for me. All I do is what they said above, throw it into the appropriate gear and let it "push start" itself. To prevent it, drive like a auto-x driver. I do double clutch/heel-toe downshifts (great motivation to learn it) during higher speed corners and such. I've pretty much mastered the heel-toe and double clutching in my car. Also, learn how to engine brake by simple leaving the car in gear while you slow down until the rpms drop closer to 1k before pressing the clutch pedal. Engine braking is kind of good for it due to the high vacuum pulled through the cylinders without excess fuel being sprayed in. It cleans the cylinders and sucks all the trash out from the boost you just put it through in order to set off your BOV. Also, try watchin the tach sometimes and catching it before it drops to 0 RPM.

[Cyberkreig]

The car wont stall at highway speed anyway. in 3rd or 4th gear you are moving a massive ammount of air.. much more than you would be at 28mph in 2nd. The ammount of air lost to ATMBOV is proportinal, but not directly. The worst that would happen under good throttle is a stumble.