blaZt. Is it good? + random babaling of an idiot (Yay)

[MaxFNPower]

I have found some useful information but not a whole lot. I don't know if you guy's have heard of biki-rom or not but they make this board that you can solder into your ecu and it puts a usb port in the side of your ecu so you can directly hook it up to a computer. Here is one of the helpful things i've found on biki-rom's website only bad thing tho is that this is for the ka24de not the ka24e. I'm trying to find out how much difference there is between the 2.

http://www.bikirom.com/S13.N14...R.pdfh ... SDM.KA.pdf

It shows what wires are used for the console wire but doesn't give great detail on it....

I don't have much time right now but i'm going to do more research on the bikirom stuff later

It's late so this is going to be short hopefully.

Nice, guess that answers wahrheitoderpflicht's first question, and maybe the second, too. Nice work cmoody.

I don't have much time this next week either, but I'm going to try and redo my budget so I can afford this project, Hope fully. It may still take a while to collect and fab the parts let alone to find the time, but it is a higher than normal priority right under school, work, GF, and Family. So, for now my time researching is free.

(Cool Shyt)

Nice stuff, but I don't have the time or the money to upgrade right now.

Anyway you may already know this but I'll give some brief descriptions about those languages. (Descriptions from people who have dealt with them.)

Assembly - It is hell in a language, programed in asci, programed from a book not from memory, its not human readable it uses those ascii character for there binary code, it is true machine language, a direct interface to the processor. The up side is that it executes about 10,000 times faster than any thing compiled in C++.Few things are written in it only drivers, OS cores( Small parts only), I know a little bit of DOSBox is written in it.

Cobalt- Quick description. Ten time the programing than your base language (C++, can't think of any others) then times the speed.

So much for a short post, well I guess for me it is.

I got one more thing for you guys. I am playing around with the I dea of solid state hard drives for the carputer and found a video of gigabyte's i-ram.

http://video.google.com/videop...53709

Ya, thats fast thats really fast, but it cost the $$$$ so I don't know.

Thanks for the pics Brizanden, thats some slick shyt.

[brizanden]

sure man love to show it off looks hella better then my car lol and almost as much money in it haha. but idk of that one that uses ascii would be that hard to figure out i know all ascii characters in binary and waht not so idk if you mean u use binary for everything as words then yes that would take forevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr or should i say 10010100111100101001111011011010101011101101101 lol thanks for the quick info. mayber next you can explain what blazt does. Does it just monitor the whole car like a visual representation of a the little thing that checks your whole system?

[brizanden]

oh and the 1 g harddrive thing not that fast miines only a bit slower and im running vista

[MaxFNPower]

Ok, Found my camera USB cable, (which is good because there like 30 from Nikon I think) so pictures of stuff forth coming(What do you guys want pics of?)

oh and the 1 g harddrive thing not that fast miines only a bit slower and im running vista

Did you watch the video? And, because I'm sure you did and I know your probably not lying, what do you have in your system like 4 raptors on raid 0?

Ok from what I've looked into blaZt is a company that sells a cable and software.There software is pretty specialized for Nissan's with a OBD1 connector and a more specialized program for 300zs. So to answer your question yes it has all of the information you could posably want from your ECU and it has a limited ability to modify your engine's A/F mixture, turn off cylinders and do other little thing. That test page makes it look like you might be able to override the ECU, how much I can only guess but with the right program you might be able to have a way more adaptive ECU setup through the the carputer than with a normal ECU.

The thing that I've been wondering is if the carputer crashes will it default back to the factory ECU or just kill the engine.

P.S. sorry I've been gone internet down.

[brizanden]

well thats why i would save that **** on my laptop too if it did vrash unplug the carputer hook it up to laptop and your temperarily saved. and no i dont have my one hard drive on raid, but its a pretty fast sata drive. idk the rpms i can find it tho

[MaxFNPower]

I think I'm explaining it bad, here's a new non-broken link : http://www.blazt.biz/ Check it out, there program isn't made specifically for a carputer but they have vids of laptops for there speed test.

The raptors are the only 10k SATA that I know about I run a 37 GB for games and its fast as hell, but that i-ram is roughly 10x faster than that. But, for that price and how much of a ***** they are I'd still just go with raptors on a raid to get the speeds. what I'm wondering is what you guys think of solid state vs. cheaper 2.5 harddrive? I give the 2.5 about 10 solid hits before it dies vs. almost indestructible.

What do you think?

P.S. My shortest post ever.

[brizanden]

heres mine http://www.newegg.com/Product/...52052 def slow when i check out others, but i swear it keeps my computer runnin pretty quick. i might do raid now lookin at other drives the small ones have redicoulous seek times like 3 ms, but i dont know much about raid other then the pin configs. you can run one hard drive for storage as a slave then the fast one as the master right?

[MaxFNPower]

heres mine http://www.newegg.com/Product/...52052 def slow when i check out others, but i swear it keeps my computer runnin pretty quick. i might do raid now lookin at other drives the small ones have redicoulous seek times like 3 ms, but i dont know much about raid other then the pin configs. you can run one hard drive for storage as a slave then the fast one as the master right?

Your seek time is way high but it's amazing what a well defragmented drive with 16MB of cache and a 3GB/s pipeline can do. + You have no idea how happy it makes me to see a 500 GB HD for right at $100

Anyway my HD setup is--1x WD 36GB Raptor http://www.newegg.com/Product/...360541x Generic WD 300GB - Was cheep like WD needed something with storage for old games music, and videos.1x 10GB HD with the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise edition OS installation on it. (Seriously this is embarrassing.) It does have the power of the ancients, you know it being salvage from a tomb in Egypt. And just like the mummy it was buried with the fecker will not die.

Also when I bought that raptor i got the Pacific Digital (sister company of WD) SATA card since I needed one any ways it was another 150-200 bucks but was heavily optimized for the raptor specifically, I can get throughput test that are pretty close to the 3GB/s Drives and it's unparalleled at loading games.(Large amounts of Random files) Looks like there cheep now too, so I may get a raid soon... no need a Carputer more(not realy but its coming first any way).

Short Carputer BOM

Motherboard Candidate 1 AMD $149 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...k=itxCandidate 2 Intel $ 194 http://www.newegg.com/Product/...k=itxCandidate(s) 3 Random VIA http://www.newegg.com/Product/...nDesc=

1 i have all the parts for CPU, RAM, etc. 2 can't even find a damn 479 socket 3 cheep as shyt... I like cheep but the AMD looks like the best bet.

Ram - TBAHD- Solid state? http://www.newegg.com/Product/...40636Pros Reliable and shock resistant, Cons expensive, and slow.

Definition time.

Raid 0 is striping you put 2 drives in a RAID 0 configuration and it puts one half of a file on one and the other half on the other, when you load it reads both stripes at the same time thus doubling your through put. YOu can do this with more than two and get even faster loads.

Raid 1 is redundancy, it mirrors two drives, one dies remove replace with same or similar drive and the raid syncs the new drive, thus keeping your data safe and a good up time and reliability.

Raid 0+1, and Raid 5 -- Both basically similar. They are striping and redundancy, they each do it a little differently.

Any more questions just ask. It's late I'm going to bed, What do you thinkm of the hard ware for the carputer?

Also, internet been going down allot so I may be sporadic at updates.

[MaxFNPower]

you can run one hard drive for storage as a slave then the fast one as the master right?

I don't think so.. in raid from what I have seen they really want you to use almost the exact same drive, same size, same brand, even same cache. but RAID 0-5 is just a standard, and every raid controller is different so ya maybe you can it's been about 1.5-2 years since I last looked at other raid controlers.

P.S. I tried posting last night wouldn't let me though so I just saved the previous post so that I could try to post it today.

[brizanden]

dude i would say dont get a mini atx board if anything as if your gonna use a mid tower chassy atx chipsets are way better for relativley same prices i say find a nividia one like the 570i or 670 i jhave 680i but i guess there is a 780i now lol. also f solid state r u building a laptop no.... lol just go for a big slow spining hd you'll be fine. i dont think i would ever go raid if i had to use 37g hds lol way to small. and i guesss mine is quick cause i do defrag and clean it all the time.

[MaxFNPower]

dude i would say dont get a mini atx board if anything as if your gonna use a mid tower chassy atx chipsets are way better for relativley same prices i say find a nividia one like the 570i or 670 i jhave 680i but i guess there is a 780i now lol. also f solid state r u building a laptop no.... lol just go for a big slow spining hd you'll be fine. i dont think i would ever go raid if i had to use 37g hds lol way to small. and i guesss mine is quick cause i do defrag and clean it all the time.

Quick post. I'll tale some pics and show you where I'm going to put the Carputer, later this week(at least I ll try).

Anyway Sorry forgot to mention RAID 0 is additive in both speed and size. Meaning you RAID 0 two 36GB Raptor and your usable volume is 72GB, plus they make raptors up to 150GB (Also the 150GB is the only HD to actualy have a window to watch the read head work.)

There is one huge draw back to RAID 0 and that is if one drive goes down you loose every thing because every file on the volume has a strip on that drive i.e. one drive goes volume dies.

This is countered by using some redundancy like 0+1 or 5 which backs up everything on the drive where if one dies just get another one put it in and the raid recreates the drive lost making it even more stable than still not having a raid at all.

well night I still have work to do for class.

[brizanden]

to be honest i've never had a hd fail have u? maybe raid puts more stess on it i have no clue, but aren't the 150gb raptors still slower then the 37

[MaxFNPower]

to be honest i've never had a hd fail have u? maybe raid puts more stess on it i have no clue, but aren't the 150gb raptors still slower then the 37

All the damn time. I went through about 3 HD in about a year and was pissed, none of them were older than 2 yrs. So I did some research and found the raptors they had a MTBF of almost 137 years (1,200,000 hours). Bullshyt right but I figured it would last at least 5 years, I'm still impressed by mine.

I shouldn't be up this late. night.

[brizanden]

hope it doesnt happen to me i have nothing backed up on any other drives

[MaxFNPower]

This is why I need an ITX board.If every thing is going to be bolted in there then it is going to feel every bump I hit, so thats why I've been leaning towards a SSHD. Just thought I wasn't explaining myself well. What do you think?

[brizanden]

oh i figured u were gonna mount it somewhere else and run cables to it

[l0nestar]

... and this thread reminded me of why I stay far away from the 240 Gen chat area..

To answer any questions, BlaZt is a wonderful monitoring tool. I use the software + consult cable to monitor my 25. I like it and highly recommend it.

[MaxFNPower]

... and this thread reminded me of why I stay far away from the 240 Gen chat area..

To answer any questions, BlaZt is a wonderful monitoring tool. I use the software + consult cable to monitor my 25. I like it and highly recommend it.

Thanks for the info, every thing I've heard about BlaZt is good. Now I only need to buy it, I'm getting my check on Friday so I'll know how much I'm going to be making with my new raise. and be able to set a budget.

Oh and what does this thread remind you of and why? Is it because we (meaning I) get off topic allot, or just the childish nature of the thread.

oh i figured u were gonna mount it somewhere else and run cables to it

Ya I finally figured that out, some times its hard to explain the ideas in my head you know. And ya going to make a custom case out of sheet metal, haven't worked with it before, exited.

OOOh speaking of offf topic look at this,Ya the rooms a mess, I'm moving in a month so about a month ago I decided to stop cleaning so much.(Found my camera cable. )

[brizanden]

jesus u wanna share some of that monitor lol

[MaxFNPower]

jesus u wanna share some of that monitor lol

Hell no Mine, Grrrrrrrr.

On an interesting side note, had a lan party at my house just after I got the tv, we were all in my room playing SupCom in a 4 for all. My GF sat behind me and my friend Chris sat looking at a wall, but heather was on my bed with her laptop looking at my game, and they kept telling me they weren't screen cheating, bah I said and expected to die, but I'll be damned if they didn't, because they told me if they had saw what I had at the near beginning they would have quit. But man does it make me paranoid as hell.

Anyway sadly the tv will not fit into the car.

Oooh, just priced a sheet of carbon fiber for the front bezel of the Carputer, it's about 26 dollars, a little expensive but easy to work and very classy looking.

P.S. hit a dear last night (2/07) I'll get pics up some time soon. Dorthy has a black eye if Dorthy hadn't broke its neck I would have, damn dear.

[brizanden]

dude one time i saw two dear in the road and i stopped right in front and they just stood there. so i slowly like 4mph drove around them and one spun around and hit its head on my front fender and i was like %^$&er if there is a mark im gonna be pissed. so i got home and checked and it was just a snot mark so i loled a little. but yeah i would ecpect cheating with a lan party. do u play bf2

oh btw nice early 90s keyboard lol dude time to upgrade.
Modified by brizanden at 2:44 PM 2/11/2008

[MaxFNPower]

Found the answer to my Carputer HD problem,I'll boot from flash drives, as long as I have ample RAM I should be fine.

Also, I looked into it and as I thought sheet metal is really cheap, but sheet metal tools are expensive it'll be about $130 just for the forming tools(Rivet gun, sheet metal pliers, metal shears, etc.) Still not bad though.

I like my keyboard its tough as Shyt, why do you think I'm still using it none of the keys have gone bad like other keyboards I've had, and I've had this one the longest.

I bought BF2 when I didn't have internet, I liked BF1942 and Vietnam better personally but I'll try to find it. I was playing TF2 but haven't played any thing of late, it's weired.

Oh got that deer post up, search "Oh Deer"

[MaxFNPower]

Almost hit another deer tonight.

Buump!!!

[onepuff]

Not sure if you know about this site, but it will answer all your questions about putting a carputer together. mp3car.com check out the forums. I have a mac mini mounted in my trunk with a 7" lcd in the radio spot in the dash. I use Parallels so i can run nissan datascan. Parallels lets you run windows programs in OSX. I have the mini mounted in the trunk on the side of my sub box with a few strips of weatherstrip to act as a shock absorber. Been running it in the car for about 10 months now as well as about 6 months before that in my Integra. Haven't had any problems with it and i've hit some serious bumps and some extreme temperatures. The mac mini really is the perfect carputer format as far as i'm concerned, however there are a lot more car pc users so there are a lot more options as far as software is concerned. I also made a dock so i can easily remove the mini and bring it in the house and hook it up to my 42" HDTV and watch movies and surf the net. You will also need a power supply for the carputer so it gets a regulated power. The fluctuating voltage from the car will f things up. You will find everything you need to know on the mp3car forums. Anyway here's a little vid of the gauges running in my RB20 S14. You can see the iTunes miniplayer in the lower right corner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJXmhgDo71Y

[onepuff]

One more thing. If you run OSX you can use a nintendo wii remote to control just about everything with a program called remote buddy. It is really slick. I also just got a little touchpad that i'll be putting in the center console. It matches the oem texture of the plastic so it will be very unnoticeable. I'll try to get some pics and more vids of things if you're interested.

[grmreapr]

http://www.mp3car.com/ is a really good site been thinking about doing the carputer myself but I dont use blatz i use Nistune (http://home.aanet.com.au/nistune/) Had my ecu chipped and their software is awesome to use on the fly changing of my ecu so with a carputer that would eliminate my need to bring my laptop with on dyno days

[MaxFNPower]

Wow thanks this helps a lot (haven't visited the site yet, tomorrow). Glad to see posts on this thread. Loved the video, don't really like Macs much but love Linux and was going to maybe go with that any was so,l Mac Mini maybe. Do you know what kind of Hard drive it uses? Also love the wii remote thing can probably get it to work in Linux with out too much, there very similar under the hood(though OSX has a very thick hood from what I've herd.

Also in your video what was that LCD screen on your dash, I couldn't see the video was blurry.

Also I just bought an s14 as a daily driver and its missing the entire center console where the the radio goes(bezel) I was thinking given the larger area that it might be better for the larger monitor than Dorthy(the s13)

grmreapr- Thanks for the site might be a better route for more real time remapping.

[onepuff]

The screen i have is a lilliput 7" lcd. I have been thinking of stuffing a 10" in there. It should fit with a little cutting if i move the climate controls down and relocate the hazard defrost buttons. The 7" works fine though. I don't know jack about linux but there is a subforum for linux on mp3car.com forums. I do know mac mini users use all three osx, windows, and linux so that's not a big deal. Check out apple.com to find out more about the mini's hard drive. It comes with wifi and bluetooth inside. The wifi is pretty good. I can connect to my house wifi from my driveway if i need to. It has a pretty good range. Here's some pics that you can see things better.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/onepuff/page2/

[brizanden]

nice job gettin an s14 max. s14 > then all

[cmoody2006]

That is a nice setup but 1 question where do you have the mouse and keyboard? I'm thinking about making my own wireless mouse from a laptop mouse pad..... I'm thinking it would be cool if i'm able to mount it to my ashtray lid or something like that.... I'm not sure yet but i've already got a junk laptop with the mouse pieces i need and I've got a spair wireless mouse at my disposal hehe