Bin Laden Is Killed!

[AZhitman]

Howie,
Dont be a tool.

That's gonna require an Act of Congress.

OK, here's my (admittedly kinda dumb and gruesome) question.

If he was "wrapped in a sheet" and chucked overboard, how long before his putrid 6'4" a$$ washes up on shore? Y'all better have strapped an anchor to that POS beforehand.

[Cold_Zero]

He was put into a weighted bag and sent overboard. Now the current question that is being asked is, is burial at sea within Islamic law?

[stebo0728]

Wouldn't matter to me, he didn't deserve any respectful burial. To all the folks saying RIP Osama, f*ck that, I know its just a phrase, but still, f*ck that.

[heliochrome85]

Wouldn't matter to me, he didn't deserve any respectful burial. To all the folks saying RIP Osama, f*ck that, I know its just a phrase, but still, f*ck that.

compassion is what separates us from lesser animals. thats why murderers get fair trials.

[AppleBonker]

Wouldn't matter to me, he didn't deserve any respectful burial

Bull. This has been bugging me a lot, as I've seen a lot of people spouting off about what should have been done with his body. And it's disgusting. Look, I'm not a huge advocate for the death penalty. And I certainly wouldn't support the death of another human if I didn't feel comfortable with actually killing the individual myself. But in this case, I would've gladly pulled the trigger; might have even smiled doing it.

However, that does not give anyone the right to abuse the body. He deserved a Muslim burial (per his beliefs). ALL humans deserve a proper burial. ALL. The dude is dead. Cutting him to pieces, feeding him to pigs, putting his head on a stake on the whitehouse lawn, transporting him around the US so all citizens can piss on him or whatever other crazy things I've heard don't change ANYTHING. It wont bring back the people he had a hand in killing. And it wont make his death any worse. And, most importantly, the reason we do this is because we are proper human beings with well-aligned moral compasses. The reason we can respectfully debate topics such as abortion and gay marriage is that we (as a country) can essentially agree on the most primitive of moral questions. Simply, we're better than torturing a dead guy. We just aren't that barbaric.

Edit: Thanks Tariq for saying the same thing... I was just a touch slower

[stebo0728]

Im all for compassion, when it suits OUR abilities, but going out of our way, and I'm not saying thats what we did, but going out of our way to cater to a terrorists religious needs, sorry but no thank you.

[IBCoupe]

I've been saying this on Bookface, too, but I'd like to see us tone down our celebration, too. What we did to bin Laden was necessary. Nothing more. We eliminated a threat to our society because he was a threat. This shouldn't be retribution, lest it stray from justified self-defense and self-protection.

This is a moment for a sigh of relief that a dangerous man endangers us no more. This isn't a movie. We killed a man last weekend. No need to cheer.

[heliochrome85]

Im all for compassion, when it suits OUR abilities, but going out of our way, and I'm not saying thats what we did, but going out of our way to cater to a terrorists religious needs, sorry but no thank you.

your arguments bore me. if i wanted derp, i could just read whatever trump was saying today. after all the time weve spent talking, id like to think that its had some impact on your outlook as it has for others. but when you continue to spout off bigoted drivel, it saddens me and makes me less want to even participate.

maybe its just time to exit stage left from this place because ultimately, the people who benefit from talking to me, and who i benefit from talking to, can contact me off of this medium.

[IBCoupe]

Excuse Tariq. He's been cutting people up all day.

[R/T Hemi]

Howie,
Dont be a tool.

That's gonna require an Act of Congress.

OK, here's my (admittedly kinda dumb and gruesome) question.

If he was "wrapped in a sheet" and chucked overboard, how long before his putrid 6'4" a$$ washes up on shore? Y'all better have strapped an anchor to that POS beforehand.

I suspect they won't show the burial video because we would see the crew chumming the water before dumping the corpse.
I raise a beer to seal team 6. Mission accomplished guys, have a cold one on us.

[stebo0728]

Someone had an interesting point around here today. I bet we'll never know the identity of these seals, and I guarantee we'll never know the identity of the lucky bastard who got the head shot, at least not until history takes over. Does anyone think differently?

And to address the bigotry, I did come off a bit harsh, and certainly didnt mean to offend anyone. I do agree that we are more civilized and when accommodations allow we can seek to honor someone's religious tenets. My point was that I don't feel that we owe someone of Osama's caliber any sort of special favors or considerations. If we can just as easily deal with it favorably, so be it, but if we're expected to do some song and dance and blah blah, forget it. The other aspect in my mind, is if doing all the special ra ra does somehow give Osama a better plight in his afterlife, I'm all for screwing that up for him too.

Now, anyone care to hazzard a guess as to how large a role this news will play in Obama's campaign? I would say it will probably play a large role, as he really doesn't seem to have much else to run on, except that he's still not a republican, and up against a good republican, that won't go very far.

[IBCoupe]

This won't have legs for long. The election is a year and a half out, and the President has plenty to run on. The affordable care act is still pretty popular, and he's continued to define his role as Mediator-in-Chief when it comes to the ongoings (or nongoings) of Congress. Plus, with the field Republicans are currently pushing, "not Republican" will probably get him pretty far.

[Bubba1]

He was put into a weighted bag and sent overboard. Now the current question that is being asked is, is burial at sea within Islamic law?

From what I've read, it appears the preferred Islamic burial location is land, but burial at sea is acceptable if a person dies on a ship and is not possible to get the body ashore before decay. Clearly that did not happen with Bin Laden.

If buried at sea, the body is supposed to be weighted at the feet and the body is not supposed to be dumped where scavengers are waiting to eat the remains. Sounds like our government might have stretched the truth about following islamic law, but I suppose they said they complied with Islamic law by weighting the body correctly and did not dumping him in shark infested waters clanging the dinner bell.

[n00b240]

Someone had an interesting point around here today. I bet we'll never know the identity of these seals, and I guarantee we'll never know the identity of the lucky bastard who got the head shot, at least not until history takes over. Does anyone think differently?

Really? People want the name of someone who shot Osama in the face...twice so he can be plastered all over TV, and then his family is in danger because some clown wants revenge? Real Smart. These men are soldiers, not self serving braggarts.

My point was that I don't feel that we owe someone of Osama's caliber any sort of special favors or considerations. If we can just as easily deal with it favorably, so be it, but if we're expected to do some song and dance and blah blah, forget it. The other aspect in my mind, is if doing all the special ra ra does somehow give Osama a better plight in his afterlife, I'm all for screwing that up for him too.

Special considerations? He was shot twice in the face, once through his left friggin eye. And people want a picture? Ive seen one trauma case with a GSW to the face....that is NOT for TV. I'm not sure Osama gets a better plight in his afterlife, because he had a proper burial, Id like to think that in all religions, even an athiest, how you spend your life, when you are alive outweighs your burial rites.....when you are already dead.

He was put into a weighted bag and sent overboard. Now the current question that is being asked is, is burial at sea within Islamic law?

From what I've read, it appears the preferred Islamic burial location is land, but burial at sea is acceptable if a person dies on a ship and is not possible to get the body ashore before decay. Clearly that did not happen with Bin Laden.

If buried at sea, the body is supposed to be weighted at the feet and the body is not supposed to be dumped where scavengers are waiting to eat the remains. Sounds like our government might have stretched the truth about following islamic law, but I suppose they said they complied with Islamic law by weighting the body correctly and did not dumping him in shark infested waters clanging the dinner bell.

The government sho did. 3umdat as-Saalik: Page 237 item g5.1 "It is best to bury him (the deceased) in the cementery... If someone dies on a ship and it is impossible to bury him on land, the body is placed (O: tightly lashed) between two planks (O: to obviate bloating) and thrown into the sea (O: so that it reaches shore, even if the inhabitants are non-Muslims, since a Muslim might find the body and bury it facing the direction of prayer (qibla))"

They say no country wanted Osama, therefore making it impossible to bury him on land. However, I doubt his body is going to be floating anywhere. His a** is permanently at the bottom of whatever water they chose

[stebo0728]

Really? You want the name of someone who shot Osama in the face...twice so he can be plastered all over TV, and then his family is in danger because some clown wants revenge? Real Smart. These men are soldiers, not self serving braggarts.

Woah we had a bit of a breakdown there, I understand and agree with you. I dont want to know who they were, and I dont want anyone else to for that matter. I want to be sure they are kept safe, and set for life. Quiet heros. I was commenting on this because I hoped everyone one else would agree, not because I want to know their identity. If I lead you to believe otherwise, my apologies.

[n00b240]

Heh, just a bit of a breakdown on my end as well. After reading your post again, Im sure that was your intention. I think we need to hug it out

[stebo0728]

The Dramatization:

[Cold_Zero]

Someone had an interesting point around here today. I bet we'll never know the identity of these seals, and I guarantee we'll never know the identity of the lucky bastard who got the head shot, at least not until history takes over. Does anyone think differently?

Really? People want the name of someone who shot Osama in the face...twice so he can be plastered all over TV, and then his family is in danger because some clown wants revenge? Real Smart. These men are soldiers, not self serving braggarts.

Not to mention end the guy's (clandestine) career.

My point was that I don't feel that we owe someone of Osama's caliber any sort of special favors or considerations. If we can just as easily deal with it favorably, so be it, but if we're expected to do some song and dance and blah blah, forget it. The other aspect in my mind, is if doing all the special ra ra does somehow give Osama a better plight in his afterlife, I'm all for screwing that up for him too.

Special considerations? He was shot twice in the face, once through his left friggin eye. And people want a picture? Ive seen one trauma case with a GSW to the face....that is NOT for TV. I'm not sure Osama gets a better plight in his afterlife, because he had a proper burial, Id like to think that in all religions, even an athiest, how you spend your life, when you are alive outweighs your burial rites.....when you are already dead.

I gathered that it was done more for the respect for other Muslims (moderates) around the world not to give an offense. Let’s face it, we didn’t handle Saddam’s disheveled mug shot in the press very well and we plastered the bullet ridden bodies of Uday and Qusay Hussein in the media after the 3-327th Infantry Regiment (101 Airborne Div) got through with them.

From what I've read, it appears the preferred Islamic burial location is land, but burial at sea is acceptable if a person dies on a ship and is not possible to get the body ashore before decay. Clearly that did not happen with Bin Laden.

If buried at sea, the body is supposed to be weighted at the feet and the body is not supposed to be dumped where scavengers are waiting to eat the remains. Sounds like our government might have stretched the truth about following islamic law, but I suppose they said they complied with Islamic law by weighting the body correctly and did not dumping him in shark infested waters clanging the dinner bell.

The government sho did. 3umdat as-Saalik: Page 237 item g5.1 "It is best to bury him (the deceased) in the cementery... If someone dies on a ship and it is impossible to bury him on land, the body is placed (O: tightly lashed) between two planks (O: to obviate bloating) and thrown into the sea (O: so that it reaches shore, even if the inhabitants are non-Muslims, since a Muslim might find the body and bury it facing the direction of prayer (qibla))"

They say no country wanted Osama, therefore making it impossible to bury him on land. However, I doubt his body is going to be floating anywhere. His a** is permanently at the bottom of whatever water they chose

At least they buried him in the Arabian Sea. <- the extent of my jokes.

[AZhitman]

I've been saying this on Bookface, too, but I'd like to see us tone down our celebration, too. What we did to bin Laden was necessary. Nothing more. We eliminated a threat to our society because he was a threat. This shouldn't be retribution, lest it stray from justified self-defense and self-protection.

This is a moment for a sigh of relief that a dangerous man endangers us no more. This isn't a movie. We killed a man last weekend. No need to cheer.

This.

[heliochrome85]

[One Finger]

Howie,
Dont be a tool.

That's gonna require an Act of Congress.

OK, here's my (admittedly kinda dumb and gruesome) question.

If he was "wrapped in a sheet" and chucked overboard, how long before his putrid 6'4" a$$ washes up on shore? Y'all better have strapped an anchor to that POS beforehand.

This is my favorite comment thus far. In serious-ness, never even thought of that. But reading it made me lol. Then imagining his ZZ Top bearded body drifting up on the shore next to a kid building a sandcastle sombered me back up. Egads, what a thought!!!!

[telcoman]

The Dramatization:

His last post



Telcoman

[AZhitman]

^ HAHAHAHAAHA that was awesome.

[AppleBonker]

[AppleBonker]

[IBCoupe]

Anne Frank made me die. She set a good example..?

[telcoman]

^ HAHAHAHAAHA that was awesome.

Glad you liked it



Telcoman

[AZhitman]

^ HAHAHAHAHA

That was good too - Howie, check out the video on page 4 of the other OBL thread. It's solid.

[telcoman]

^ HAHAHAHAHA

That was good too - Howie, check out the video on page 4 of the other OBL thread. It's solid.

This just in from hell.


There are no virgins???

[stebo0728]

Wait till they meet up with Hitler later ....