Bikirom tuning software

Post by **c-rad** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:25 am

Ok, Pumaking on here sent me a link yesterday to the bikirom site http://www.bikirom.com If you go to their forums, apparently they are about to release their MegaRom tuning board. Essentially it is an on-the-fly tuning program. How I understand it is, he made a board with a USB connection that attaches to a laptop. The PC then emulates the cars EPROM. You can make changes through the rom emulator on the fly as the car is running. You get the car to where you want it to be and save the file. You then burn the new info to the EPROM, install it, and you are good to go. It is also going to have other features in it like a turbo timer, inputs for boost levels, wideband O2, etc... and the price should come in less than $500. I think I am going to wait on this before I jump on a SAFC. It looks very promising though.

Post by **Turbogixxer** » Thu May 05, 2005 3:14 pm

Haha, Pumaking is making the rounds with that link. When his swap is done, I will be tuning the car, so I will try to get info for all. This is 100x better the SAFC.

Post by **Not_a_sr** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:29 am

500$ ouch, we just got in some cool stuff from Moates, its a burner emulator all in one. im not completely sure if it works with ROM editor for the nissan ECUS. but we are goin to try it out soon, we also are hopign to get live Edit working with this stuff.

Post by **c-rad** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:13 am

Not_a_sr wrote:500$ ouch, we just got in some cool stuff from Moates, its a burner emulator all in one. im not completely sure if it works with ROM editor for the nissan ECUS. but we are goin to try it out soon, we also are hopign to get live Edit working with this stuff.

Not really, it will include a burner, eprom emulator, all the hardware to connect to the PC. The software also does datalogging and allows for the input of aux items such as a boost solenoid to graph boost pressure and a wideband input to tune for A/F right on the same screen and have that logged as well. A custom tuned ROM is going to cost close to $500 by itself. And then if you change your setup even the slightest bit, you need to redo it. I think if it comes in anywhere under $500 it's a hell of a deal.

Post by **fanta** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:15 am

There was a similar shareware program called Live Edit, though the site seems to be down. http://www.engineers.auckland.ac.nz/~lmoo016/

Contact info:[email protected] 311565

Post by **c-rad** » Fri May 06, 2005 9:31 am

Well, any kind of 8-bit rom emulator will work for me. But I cannot find any. I don't really care about the wideband logging as all my tuning will be done on a dyno with a wideband anyway. Too bad that site is down... I did a google search but didn't come up with squat.

Post by **Not_a_sr** » Fri May 06, 2005 3:11 pm

c-rad wrote:Well, any kind of 8-bit rom emulator will work for me. But I cannot find any. I don't really care about the wideband logging as all my tuning will be done on a dyno with a wideband anyway. Too bad that site is down... I did a google search but didn't come up with squat.

i have liveedit some where..

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Fri May 06, 2005 3:22 pm

I have BEEN learning and educating myself on tuning Nissan ecus and I am at the begining of the the road and I have a long long way to go, I am currently learning on a z32 ecu.

But here is a link that you might find helpful, it is a live emulator

http://www.xtronics.com/memory/romutator.htm

If you know of any better ones for a decent price please post.

Thanks,

RafiPULSAR GTR

Post by **c-rad** » Fri May 06, 2005 5:48 pm

pulsar gtr wrote:I have BEEN learning and educating myself on tuning Nissan ecus and I am at the begining of the the road and I have a long long way to go, I am currently learning on a z32 ecu.

But here is a link that you might find helpful, it is a live emulator

http://www.xtronics.com/memory/romutator.htm

If you know of any better ones for a decent price please post.

Thanks,

RafiPULSAR GTR

Funny you mention that... that was the one item I did find under my search for Live Edit. I am not afraid to delve into tuning my own ECU as I have more than enough resources and tools such as a wideband at my disposal. I just wish there was some kind of demo that you can run and get the feel of before you buy it.

Post by **Vetal** » Sat May 07, 2005 12:24 am

I was looking at this one:http://www.futurlec.com/EPROMEmulator.shtml1) It is 2x cheaper than xtronics and 2) it doesn't use COM port where my Techedge wideband sits...

Post by **pulsar gtr** » Sat May 07, 2005 2:57 am

Vetal wrote:I was looking at this one:http://www.futurlec.com/EPROMEmulator.shtml1) It is 2x cheaper than xtronics and 2) it doesn't use COM port where my Techedge wideband sits...

It sounds a better device than the one I mentioned as it covers a lot more 27 series such as the 512k, but using Dos, won't be as user friendly as windows plus it is only good for windows 95,98. I hope they come out with a better software version to work with windows and windows 2k or xp

RafiPULSAR GTR

Post by **Turbogixxer** » Sat May 07, 2005 3:19 am

I have both xtronics and moates ROMulators. I will be testing everything out when pumaking gets his motor in. I will also be testing running a honda ecu on the Ca. I know it can be done, I have to do the leg work.

Post by **Not_a_sr** » Sat May 07, 2005 6:41 am

we are thinking about the honda ECU thing on my car, we have a few really good honda tuners, and one is wanting to wire my car up and do it.

i just want to drive it around for a while first then ill probably let him experiment on it.

Post by **Turbogixxer** » Sat May 07, 2005 6:26 pm

Not_a_sr wrote:we are thinking about the honda ECU thing on my car, we have a few really good honda tuners, and one is wanting to wire my car up and do it.

The only problem is the Coil packs on CA. The cheaper honda ECUs can not control them. K-series can, but you are talking alot more money for the tuning hardware and ECU. I am working on a piece to control the coil packs with a OBD1 honda ECU.

Post by **c-rad** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:42 pm

Turbogixxer wrote:The only problem is the Coil packs on CA. The cheaper honda ECUs can not control them. K-series can, but you are talking alot more money for the tuning hardware and ECU. I am working on a piece to control the coil packs with a OBD1 honda ECU.

Umm....how 'bout just using an MSD-DIS 2?

Post by **Vetal** » Sun May 08, 2005 1:24 am

If I understand correctly, Moates costs 175$ for emulator and works under XP through USB port?

Post by **Turbogixxer** » Sun May 08, 2005 6:04 am

c-rad wrote:
Umm....how 'bout just using an MSD-DIS 2?

Two reasons.

MSD is ****. You have a 75% shot of the box crapping out on you.

The second. MSD does not expend the ignition signal from one trigger to four. The only thing on the market that does that is maded by motec and you have to be running a motec EMS to use it.

Post by **Turbogixxer** » Sun May 08, 2005 6:06 am

Vetal wrote:If I understand correctly, Moates costs 175$ for emulator and works under XP through USB port?

Yes, it is the only USB romulator out there. You can use Tunercat you run the car off the romulator if the editing software does not support real time editing.

Post by **Not_a_sr** » Sun May 08, 2005 9:13 am

Turbogixxer wrote:
Yes, it is the only USB romulator out there. You can use Tunercat you run the car off the romulator if the editing software does not support real time editing.

so if i have tunercat, i can make changes on the fly with romedit even though it doesnt support real time?? i need to check into this more, we are actually a moates distributer. so im goin to have to call them up and get this thing and play with it.

Post by **Turbogixxer** » Mon May 09, 2005 6:27 pm

Not_a_sr wrote:
so if i have tunercat, i can make changes on the fly with romedit even though it doesnt support real time?? i need to check into this more, we are actually a moates distributer. so im goin to have to call them up and get this thing and play with it.

Well, you make the file, then upload it with tunercat. It is not like it is live edit, but it is better than burning chips over and over again.

Post by **Vetal** » Mon May 09, 2005 9:48 pm

But Live edit only works with 1 certain emulator... Probably if you have sources you would be able to adopt it

Post by **Not_a_sr** » Tue May 10, 2005 5:21 am

ill have to talk with moates and see if it can be adapted to work with live edit.

Post by **Turbogixxer** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:18 pm

Vetal wrote:But Live edit only works with 1 certain emulator... Probably if you have sources you would be able to adopt it

I am talking about the ability to edit the ROM Live with the software, not live edit the software.

Not_a_sr wrote:ill have to talk with moates and see if it can be adapted to work with live edit.

I dunno if Craig can help you, he does not make the software.

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