Bi Xenon's in S13 Bricks?

[CJH]

I have JDM S13 halogen headlights. I have seen people use HID kits on projectors. Has anyone come across any Bi xenon setups on bricks? I found one site that sells them for oddly cheap. Anyone have any other websites that they recommend, or any threads where a person does this. I had no luck. I searched on here and found a lot of H4 setups on pop ups.

Oddly cheap site http://www.hidsrus.com/nissan-silvia-hi ... id-lights/

If you are unsure what front I am talking about, here is my car



And I realize this isn't the best front end shot, but this is my favorite photo ever, so I will just leave this here.

[daemonyk]

Well, when it comes to installing those kinds of HID kits into silvia brick lights, bi-xenon or otherwise, it's literally a matter of buy the kit with the bulb that fits that socket, install it, and plug in the wiring That's it. If you can change the headlight bulb, you can install a cheap ebay HID kit.

The problem is, those headlights have JDM cutoff, so the light won't be projected correctly. And those cheap HID kits are hit / miss as to how then end up looking anyways. So blazing HID's plus reversed cutoff means lots of blinded oncomning traffic, poor visibility on your shoulder of the road, and possibly tickets for "faulty" equipment.

If you don't care about cutoff and all that stuff, then the cheap HID kits are fine. Personally, I'd recommend checking out this http://www.theretrofitsource.com/produc ... cts_id=227 It will give you the right cutoff, a much better looking beam, and still installs pretty easy. It's pricier, but works WAY better. Of course, you'll be running projectors at that point, but they'll be in bricks. But TMK getting bricks to work with HID's, and getting the right cutoff, and not having a blinding beam pattern, is a massive amount of work. They're just not designed right for HID's.

If it's a track car, and doesn't see road much, slap that cheap kit in and call it a day But if it sees public roads pretty frequently, I'd really suggest going the extra 1/4 mile and getting a kit that will do things right

[CJH]

Thanks for the info

[pepesilvia]

your car is awesome. Love the build thread you got going.... sorry off topic.

[daemonyk]

Re-read your post a little more, as well as checking out your build (EPIC)

Completely disregarding legality and cutoff stuff, most ppl run bi-xenons in the pop light H4's cos thats the only way to get the high and low beam. At least here locally, the few 240's with silvia fronts (bricks or projectors) usually end up putting a HID low beam in the low beam bucket, and then a regular halogen in the high beam. And it looks weird when they have them both on. Either HID's in both low and high, or a bi-xenon and leave the other bucket off, looks way better IMO.

Personally, I have triple projector silvia lights, and I replaced all 4 (low and high) projectors with 4 bi-xenon projectors - 4 lows to 4 highs. Because lumens I've not seen anyone else do it - probably because of money, and there's really no need to whatsoever. Likely the same with the bricks - nobody really does it becuase there's no need to. Doesn't mean it doesn't look wikkid cool though.

As inexpensive as that kit is, couldn't hurt to try em. I ran a simple bulb / ballast / relay kit in H4's before I went silvia front, and they worked pretty good - I call them cheap cos they are a cheap drop in mass produced kit - but they do work. What color temp were you thinking of going with?

[CJH]

Thanks for the love guys. I don't get many comments.

daemonyk - I drive it on the street a lot, but it is also tracked a lot

I went with Halogens over projectors because I like the look better. These came smoked from japan and one low beam bulb is blue, and the other is purple. It makes me laugh, but it's way to dark. I drive around with my brights on every night. I'm so low, it doesn't blind other people. I tested it out. Track events have slowed down in the area and I can't go to another drift event until Sept. 1st. That's too long without drifting. I'm normally not one for streeting too. There is a place near where I live called the kettles. Its a woody, narrow, hilly, winding road. Kind of looks like a Japanese touge. I'm going to start going out there late at night to practice, but I need to see where I'm going.

I will try something. I was originally going to go with a 6k that was white-ish blue, but then I saw a 12k that was violet. A part of me thinks the violet is stupid, another part thinks its funny and neat. Time will tell what I pick, I just want it to be bright. Visibility is important to me. I have bi-xenon's on my mini and they are amazing!

[Hijacker]

Daemonyk, you should consider retrofitting new HID housings into your triples. I plan on doing that when I convert over to HIDs when I start my rebuild. Don't need to worry about it with the highs since there's no cutoff there. I think most people skip doing the highs because of the cost:use ratio. I'm debating S2k or TSX housings for my low beams right now.

As for retrofitting the bricks, there shouldn't be a cutoff as the H4 is a dual filament bulb and a cutoff would affect the high beam (which defeats the purpose of the high beam). To properly install a HID, I would think you would need to retrofit a projector housing much like pop up front end owners do with their sealed halogen setups. The bricks don't have provisions for bi-xenon, so installing a bi-x bulb will basically be just having a high beam all the time.

[simmode1]

I have nothing of worth to add to this conversion except that I want to see clear headlight covers on your car.

[CJH]

Hijacker - Thanks for the good info.

simmode1 - I agree. I think those would look sweet. I should look into that.

I put on the OEM lip kit because I wanted to keep it simple. I no longer want to keep it simple. This winter I hope to pick up this kit and some VS-KF or some VS-XX wheels.

[daemonyk]

Daemonyk, you should consider retrofitting new HID housings into your triples. I plan on doing that when I convert over to HIDs when I start my rebuild. Don't need to worry about it with the highs since there's no cutoff there. I think most people skip doing the highs because of the cost:use ratio. I'm debating S2k or TSX housings for my low beams right now.

That's exactly what I did I put 4 of these in http://www.theretrofitsource.com/produc ... cts_id=227 A solenoid makes the cutoff plate drop out of the way to make it a high beam. 4 low beams -> 4 high beams I had my brother fab me some adapter plates so I can still even use the oem adjustment screws to aim them.

Cost to use ratio is exactly why I figured ppl don't do it. TheRetrofitSource sells all kinds of projector assemblies (and bulbs ballasts etc), incl TSX and sometimes S2K assemblies. I went with the ones I did cos they were cheaper, and had clear polished lenses standard.

The main reason I go into cutoff and legality is cos the cops around here love to ticket people over nonsense.