Best RB20 standalone

Post by **MATTs14** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:47 pm

I was wondering what you guys opinions were on which standalone is the best. Ive been looking at microsquirt and haltech but haltech is a little pricey but microsquirt doesn't have a base map. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Im looking for something that preferrably wont break the bank

Post by **Carl H** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:09 pm

stock ecu.

Post by **Joe** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:15 pm

Carl H wrote:stock ecu.

Post by **MATTs14** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:03 pm

Well i know its probably the best way to go but i want something with built in launch control and also im thinkin about converting to map so i wont have any issues with runnin my maf with my new 6boost manifold. Theres not any way to incorporate these into the stock ecu is there?

Post by **moso240** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:37 pm

wih stock ecu you cannot go MAP unforunatly...not sure about luanch control..but i think sum1 makes a piggy back type system of sum sort that does the same thing....

Post by **Carl H** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:16 am

why would running a maf be an issue with your turbo manifold?and why go map, to get crappy gas mileage and have to retune everytime you drive out of your local area?

Post by **MATTs14** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:23 am

Well im getting the forward facing 6boost and it makes it kinda cramped in there. I wasnt too fond of getting rid of it either but you gotta do what you gotta do. I really want launch control though and carl h would you be able to tune and get me 400 at the wheels? im gonna be running a z32 maf, 600+cc injectors, holset hx35, plazmaman intake, tomei poncams, and tial 38mm. I just want something reliable and not too terribly expensive.

Post by **neonbomb** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:46 am

MATTs14 wrote:Well im getting the forward facing 6boost and it makes it kinda cramped in there. I wasnt too fond of getting rid of it either but you gotta do what you gotta do. I really want launch control though and carl h would you be able to tune and get me 400 at the wheels? im gonna be running a z32 maf, 600+cc injectors, holset hx35, plazmaman intake, tomei poncams, and tial 38mm. I just want something reliable and not too terribly expensive.

You should be well into 400 with that setup

Post by **moso240** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:38 pm

where in the same boat i got the same manifold....it makes it cramped yes i know....listen set up a pipe from in front of your turbo leading down into your inner fender curve as needed then attach the maf and filter...i did this on a s13 chassis with those big HKS filters so dont say theres no space...

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Post by **Yellow4g63** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:48 pm

Real simple fix for that. Get a Ford Lightning air flow meter and buy the adapter that lets you go blow through. You take the MAF element out and weld the adapter to your intercooler pipe. Clean install and you get to blow though the easy way.

Post by **MATTs14** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:04 pm

Ok thanks a lot guys. I'll look into that setup yello4g63

Post by **Yellow4g63** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:25 pm

MATTs14 wrote:Ok thanks a lot guys. I'll look into that setup yello4g63

It's my setup lol. Just haven't got a chance to start the car.

Post by **MATTs14** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:12 am

o ok lol. Got any pics of your setup?

Post by **Yellow4g63** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:50 am

Haven't got the intercooler piping done yet. The 02 is almost done then I can move on to that. Here is the place I bought it from http://www.vmptuning.com/store...nt=31 The maf I got on ebay for $100 shipped.

Post by **MATTs14** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:33 am

would it be okay to run a 3 inch coldside and a 2.5 inch hotside? or should i just run 3 inch all the way through. I really like that setup you have there too. Im definitely gonna look into doing that. Thanks

Post by **Yellow4g63** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:23 am

MATTs14 wrote:would it be okay to run a 3 inch coldside and a 2.5 inch hotside? or should i just run 3 inch all the way through. I really like that setup you have there too. Im definitely gonna look into doing that. Thanks

You can do 3" all the way. My friend did that for his RB25 but he has that Q45 TB and a big T4 turbo. I'm going with 2.75" all the way.

Post by **jdmser** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:54 pm

What management are you using to control the Lightning maf? I was talking to some Cobra guys and a tuner and they said "At 1023 A/D counts they are good for about 62#/min of air in a 90mm housing. That's roughly 450-500 HP (depending on your drivetrain and modifications)." and "You can use any meter with a MAFia or MAF Extender (inline switchable resistor network) to condition the output below a 5VDC EEC limit. Always keep in mind though that the MAF electronics do have an internal hard cap." Now, I've read and heard through Nissan guys and forums that the Lightning MAF is good for around 700hp. Who's right?

Post by **PorkChopExpress** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:03 pm

ford corba 500ford lightning 700

from nistune.

Post by **Sil240** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:59 pm

But.... If you put a MAF in a different Diameter pipe then you will change the reading right???

You should try to mimic the stock diameter of the MAF housing.

Post by **Yellow4g63** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:03 pm

jdmser wrote:What management are you using to control the Lightning maf? I was talking to some Cobra guys and a tuner and they said "At 1023 A/D counts they are good for about 62#/min of air in a 90mm housing. That's roughly 450-500 HP (depending on your drivetrain and modifications)." and "You can use any meter with a MAFia or MAF Extender (inline switchable resistor network) to condition the output below a 5VDC EEC limit. Always keep in mind though that the MAF electronics do have an internal hard cap." Now, I've read and heard through Nissan guys and forums that the Lightning MAF is good for around 700hp. Who's right?

Stock ecu just romtune with the Nistune software and hardware.

Post by **Yellow4g63** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:04 pm

Sil240 wrote:But.... If you put a MAF in a different Diameter pipe then you will change the reading right???

You should try to mimic the stock diameter of the MAF housing.

Not sure if it matters as much with a blow through setup vs the draw through. I don't want to put a 90mm hump in my intercooler piping lol so 2.75 will have to work for me.

Post by **BoostFab** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:29 pm

Yellow4g63 wrote: Nistune

use a standalone if you already own one, but not then romtune/daughterboard the stock ecu.

Post by **MATTs14** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:03 am

Doesnt nistune plug into the obd plug and tune the stock ecu?? if not could someone please explain

Post by **Sil240** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:41 pm

Nistune from what I hear is the shizznit

What you do is you send them your ecu or you do it yourself.They put a daughter board inside and cut a hole in the casing for a USB port.Then you can change everything in the ecu realtime (I believe).It also has some extras that I'm not up on.Google it.

And I believe you use the Conzult plug to data log.

Post by **Yellow4g63** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:47 pm

MATTs14 wrote:Doesnt nistune plug into the obd plug and tune the stock ecu?? if not could someone please explain

It plugs into the consult port to tune the daughter board that u install into the ecu.

Post by **MATTs14** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:03 am

Thats the big gray plug under the dash right? Would that still work since i have an rb swap?

Post by **Carl H** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:15 am

depends on how well you wired the car.

Post by **MATTs14** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:25 am

What would need to be wired in to make that work?

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