Beating My Head Against the Wall: Engine Management

[rico05]

Grrr.

I can't freaking decide what route to go. I would LOVE a Tecmotive Tec3 or SDS or the like, but I don't think that I need that much and that kind of $ could be better spent elsewhere (Brakes, adjustible multilinks) So I am in a dilemma. I can pick up the hardware and software to do my own EPROM flashing and clean it up with a VPC (if there is a God) or a S-AFC. I don't really need that much control as 250rwhp is my goal by May and I beleive that will be the stopping point until I graduate. Right now I am looking at:

460cc injectors (have)Walbro 255lph (have)DSM or Nismo FPR (need)T28 (considering)

Not major tune. Will have supporting reliability mods done, so all I am lacking is my plan for management. Dee, Ryan, Korey, Sean, Rafi, all you crazy phucks from Down Unda....shed some light for me

[KaZ (VaBch)]

I have a SDS all setup for the CA18DET (I bought it off Ray). Pretty much every option available (fast idle, 3Bar MAP, yadda, yadda). $1k shipped.

Let me know.

Later,

[slw240sx]

250whp you shouldnt need much management other then a mild chip tune EGT gauge and a trip to the dyno to make sure its kosher. with a t28maybe somthin bigger ,Z32Maf,440-550s a chip you should beable to hit 250 with out any safety issues at all. dont waste your money where you could spend it wiser.

Grrr.

I can't freaking decide what route to go. I would LOVE a Tecmotive Tec3 or SDS or the like, but I don't think that I need that much and that kind of $ could be better spent elsewhere (Brakes, adjustible multilinks) So I am in a dilemma. I can pick up the hardware and software to do my own EPROM flashing and clean it up with a VPC (if there is a God) or a S-AFC. I don't really need that much control as 250rwhp is my goal by May and I beleive that will be the stopping point until I graduate. Right now I am looking at:

460cc injectors (have)Walbro 255lph (have)DSM or Nismo FPR (need)T28 (considering)

Not major tune. Will have supporting reliability mods done, so all I am lacking is my plan for management. Dee, Ryan, Korey, Sean, Rafi, all you crazy phucks from Down Unda....shed some light for me

[CA19DET]

why not jsut get a Stage two chip from Jezz???

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/hors...o.htm

The graph shows power at the wheels (blue), power lost through the transmission and tyres (green) and calculated power at the flywheel. This car made 264bhp @ only 14psi of boost, the increase in performance comes from the modifications to the engine. More power could be liberated with a higher flow intercooler and more boost pressure. The Stage 2 chip optimises fuelling and ignition timing to take best advantage of the modifications.

[cortina-mk1]

as you americans call it go 'stand alone'you will never look backi run autronic engine managmentyou will never ever look backhttp://www.cortina-mk1.com/autronic.shtm

[T88lexus]

I am running with VPC and GCC set up .. it feels great and I have 2 different chips for the ca18det vpc chip.

you can probably get by with getting safc or emanage to tune your car.

MAF sucks!. I have on MAF on our T66 .86AR sr20 with Q45 MAF with power fc. yes it maxing out at 6700 rpm. reads 5V after words. pain in butt.there is no bigger MAF that I know of to use on his set up ...D-detro time.

[fanta]

Have someone chip it.

[slw240sx]

why not jsut get a Stage two chip from Jezz???

http://bagpuss.swan.ac.uk/hors...o.htm

cause i have a eprom burner,wideband 02, acess to a dyno, and people who think they know how to tune cars. we shall see how long it takes to blow up my car

[ISL33P]

stand alone is the ultimate. you get rid of the those crappy maf sensors (doesn't matter how big they are, they are still no good) and most computers have a good cold start setup with options for idle control, air con control etc, and there is less sensors ie wiring to have dramas with.

stand alone makes sense to me.

[r34 gtr]

if you want a cheaper option, try this: http://www.importbitz.com/ecuspecs.htm

for $742.33 thats a pretty sweet deal, though i know nothing about them and could in no way help you set it up.

- tim

[float_6969]

This is kind of a hard one. Although I'm not looking for a whole lot more power, I went with standalone (kinda, it's a Power FC). The reason I wanted to do this was because I didn't want to have to keep burning EPROMS everytime I changed something. I knew that the way that the car is built now, isn't nessicarily the way that it will be built in 2 yrs. So for me, it was the idea, that at any point, when I changed something about the car, I could modify the parameters in the computer to get the most from that modification. If you feel that this will be the extent of the modifications to your motor, then I would say to get a simple ECU retune and spend the money on suspension. If you plan on taking it farther later on down the road, then spend the money and get the standalone.

[boost_boy]

Get a standalone of some sort. You'll thank us later .

Dee

[rico05]

I think I am going to look more into self tuning the EPROM or mabye look into Jezz's setups (Esp the multiple map setup he has)

[cortina-mk1]

yea listen to dee he he

[rico05]

I hate to sound like abiotch, but the work and cost of going stand alone just seems to not be worth the results at my tune and power level. I don't need iginiton control or stuff like launch control. I do want to be able to have different maps, that can be taken care of with 2 chips. I really don't mind doing the tuning myself (or burning of EPROM) as this is what I am going to do for a living, so better learn about it sometime. I still may go stand alone, but I ahve other things that I need to buy first (like wedding present for my best friends and limited slip diff, etc)

[boost_boy]

You can never buy too much engine management! They'll come a day when you'll want more and eeproms just ain't cutting it; especially if you're not doing them yourselves. You wanted an opinion and we gave you one. Even if you wanted to achieve 190whp, the addition of a standalone system supercedes the factory harness's clumsiness as well as the nasty old AFM. But whatever you decide, I wish you reach your goals.

Dee

[float_6969]

Rico, you are a biotch, but we still love you...

[iliketocrash]

why not just use a s-afc? Its really all you need for your power goals. its easy and can be tuned on the fly. And the s-afc 2 has to fuel maps so it negates the need for 2 chips even. But if you just HAVE to burn chips then... yeha, k.