Battery relocated 7 months ago....now problem

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So as title says my battery has been relocated for 7 months. Now I am having problems starting the car. Initially it did take a little longer to start since the battery is further away, no problem. But now the first time I turn the key it just tries and tries, then i wait like 10 second and try again it it fires up.

Not really sure what my problem can be. I'm thinking that removing the ground that goes from manifold/body/neg battery might have something to do with it. No idea really. Any help would be appreciated because I'm lost right now. I find it weird the problem arises 7 months later.

One idea I have is a grounding kit or something.


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Are your terminals tight and everything? Is the battery good?

I find it hard to see why a few feet of cable would make that much of a difference.

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The problem may not be caused by you battery relocation...it has been 7 months. These cars are old, things wear out. Was the battery new when you moved it?

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As long as the battery is sized right I see no problem here. Battery / alt is going bad.

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to me it doesnt sound like a battery issue.....the car is turning over, correct, just not starting......you may have a fuel system issue, or faulty wiring elsewhere

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Are your terminals tight and everything? Is the battery good?I find it hard to see why a few feet of cable would make that much of a difference.
nissanman04 wrote:The problem may not be caused by you battery relocation...it has been 7 months. These cars are old, things wear out. Was the battery new when you moved it?
All terminals and connection are fine. Battery was bought 2 months before the relocation.
OutToWinPAHC wrote:As long as the battery is sized right I see no problem here. Battery / alt is going bad.
It could possibly be the alternator. I just charged the batter for 2 hours before I left and now it fires up like it used to when I first relocated.
ashibah83 wrote:to me it doesnt sound like a battery issue.....the car is turning over, correct, just not starting......you may have a fuel system issue, or faulty wiring elsewhere
It has to be the battery or something related to the battery, and the car does start. At first it just turns over, then i wait like 5 seconds and try again and it starts with some effort. Then it runs fine.

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My friend just did a relocation hes gotta rapidly turn the key from on to ignition till it fires up. Kinda annoying but his short ram looks sexy makes it worth it.would a bigger battery help?

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Not sure. I'm going to check my alternator. I'm thinking that could be it since it just started having this problem. Also looking into a grounding kit, and time for new plugs. That should help some. My guess is that the battery isn't getting charged as much as it should. Any other ideas?

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Check the alternator, and let us know what it is charging at.

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Suggesstion... Try testing your fuel pressure too. Sounds like its taking too many primes to get fuel up to your injectors.

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DMan II-40 wrote:
Not really sure what my problem can be. I'm thinking that removing the ground that goes from manifold/body/neg battery might have something to do with it.
DID EVERYONE MISS THIS PART!?

you removed the ONLY grounds in your engine bay and are wondering why things dont work? REALLY?!

this is why people should have to pass a test on what they buy, before they buy it. basic competency should be a requirement to touch major systems on the car

ADD GROUNDS UNDER THE HOOD.

1) intake manifold to strut tower (NOT, i repeat NOT to the three bolts holding the strut on, they do NO good as they connect the ground ONLY to your suspension, not the body. go to the SIDE of the strut tower where your other OEM ground is for the alternator)

2) back of head to firewall. find the bolt holes there. make it happen

those two are a minimum. make them of 4g or better wiring.


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mrgreeneyes wrote:
DID EVERYONE MISS THIS PART!?

you removed the ONLY grounds in your engine bay and are wondering why things dont work? REALLY?!

this is why people should have to pass a test on what they buy, before they buy it. basic competency should be a requirement to touch major systems on the car

ADD GROUNDS UNDER THE HOOD.

1) intake manifold to strut tower (NOT, i repeat NOT to the three bolts holding the strut on, they do NO good as they connect the ground ONLY to your suspension, not the body. go to the SIDE of the strut tower where your other OEM ground is for the alternator)

2) back of head to firewall. find the bolt holes there. make it happen

those two are a minimum. make them of 4g or better wiring.
yea i knew it! I said i was gonna get a grounding kit. I just wanted to make sure that was the problem before i bought it. Mr.Greeneyes is the MAN

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mrgreeneyes wrote:1) intake manifold to strut tower (NOT, i repeat NOT to the three bolts holding the strut on, they do NO good as they connect the ground ONLY to your suspension, not the body. go to the SIDE of the strut tower where your other OEM ground is for the alternator)

2) back of head to firewall. find the bolt holes there. make it happen

those two are a minimum. make them of 4g or better wiring.
something like that. then one from the alt case up to the im side of the ground pictured. then one from the the back of the motor to the firewall on each side. and probably from the driverside of the motor somewhere to that side strut tower. grounds are never a bad idea

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Yea looks like I have something to do this weekend. I was gonna order the grounding kit fr cortasseynissan which is $90, would one from pepboys be fine? Or anything cheeper that is good quality that u know of?

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thats just a waste of money. go to your local alternator/starter shop or something similar and get 4ga and ring terminal for it. cost me like $20

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Ok cool. I kinda figured that but doesn't hurt to ask. Thank you for all of ur help guys. When I finish I will let everyone know how it goes. Thanks again.

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So this morning my car WOULD NOT start. So I took my parents car to work since I was running late. Stopped at PepBoys on my way home and got two 4gague starter cables. Only had time to put on the main ground (manifold to strut housing) and it fired right up! Faster than I think it ever used to.

Couldn't find room behind the head, seemed really tight back there. I will try and find something tho. Thank for everyone's help, really appreciated.

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it also is a good idea to run a ground off starter to strut tower as well. this was on instructions for SARD battery box relocation kit


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