Ball bearing pieces in my oil

[clever240sx]

I was going to replace all my timing chain guides and so i dropped the oil pan and found ball bearing pieces in my oil? What could that be from? I couldnt think of anything..but its also 1:30 am right now.Let me know what it could be.thanks

[240life]

oil or water pump

[clever240sx]

So i wonder what i all destroyed inside my motor. I didnt drive it much longer after it happened. But my knock levels on my power fc were out the roof! But there was no knocking or anything. I just didnt have any power after like 4 grand...

[the converted]

Turbo?

[clever240sx]

I really doubt its the turbo. I removed the outlets and checked the shaft play and there was none. The turbo has only been on there for 2000 miles and it had no oil or anything inside the turbo...

[the converted]

There's a check ball in the lifter. I'm just having a hard time coming up with things that have bearing in them other than the water pump.

[clever240sx]

Well there was lifter tick before this happened. But i really doubt its that either. Cuz there was tiny balls everywhere with bearing shavings in it.

[fast_s13]

man sounds like your having lots of problems with your new ride

[clever240sx]

Lol yeah i really am and it sucks because i had a great DD that i traded him and now i have no car to get to work or class...so im screwed til i get a new motor. As of now the motor and transmission are out of the car.

But also if it was the oil pump that failed and all those pieces were in the oil how much damage do you think it did to the motor? After all this happened i only drove it like 15 miles and didnt take it past 3 grand..But im pretty sure it needs a new block..Let me know what you think

[240life]

Lol yeah i really am and it sucks because i had a great DD that i traded him and now i have no car to get to work or class...so im screwed til i get a new motor. As of now the motor and transmission are out of the car.

But also if it was the oil pump that failed and all those pieces were in the oil how much damage do you think it did to the motor? After all this happened i only drove it like 15 miles and didnt take it past 3 grand..But im pretty sure it needs a new block..Let me know what you think

going to need a couple hundred worth of machine work, new bearings and all new gaskets and seals possible piston and rings around a $1000 would be my guess for a basic rebuild

[fast_s13]

haha i spent almost 4k on my rebuild

[240life]

haha i spent almost 4k on my rebuild

I just did a fully bored .20 over and balanced Sr (blueprinted) with an ATI super damper, cp pistons, new crank, king race bearings, eagle rods, tomei head gasket and all nissan oil seals and gaskets and timing set, with an ARC oil pan and a new water pump for about 3500 all parts purchased new so a basic rebuild isn't that much trust me (assuming you do your own labor)
Modified by 240life at 8:08 PM 11/30/2008

[clever240sx]

Well it wasnt the oil pump. Its perfect along with the turbo and water pump..I just cant think of anything else that has a ball bearing???????????

Ok here are the things that may have led to this.....1)Knock Sensor on power fc went sky high after i would raise it past 4grand(no kocking though)2)Ticking from the valvetrain(always went on since ive had the sr)3)Timing chain slack. Found out the hydraulic tensioner had a crack down the side.(maybe jumped a couple teeth)

Im just out of ideas of what it could be....if anyone has any suggestions let me knowthanks

[the converted]

Post some pictures and maybe it will jumpstart someones memory.

[fast_s13]

I just did a fully bored .20 over and balanced Sr (blueprinted) with an ATI super damper, cp pistons, new crank, king race bearings, eagle rods, tomei head gasket and all nissan oil seals and gaskets and timing set, with an ARC oil pan and a new water pump for about 3500 all parts purchased new so a basic rebuild isn't that much trust me (assuming you do your own labor)

Modified by 240life at 8:08 PM 11/30/2008

hmm almost the same build as mine

[240life]

Well it wasnt the oil pump. Its perfect along with the turbo and water pump..I just cant think of anything else that has a ball bearing???????????

Ok here are the things that may have led to this.....1)Knock Sensor on power fc went sky high after i would raise it past 4grand(no kocking though)2)Ticking from the valvetrain(always went on since ive had the sr)3)Timing chain slack. Found out the hydraulic tensioner had a crack down the side.(maybe jumped a couple teeth)

Im just out of ideas of what it could be....if anyone has any suggestions let me knowthanks

Angry X-G/F

[austins240]

i'm gonna guess that it's not the first turbo that has been on the engine.

and that a previous turbo blew and was replaced, thus the ball bearing pieces in the oil pan.

[clever240sx]

Yep i also thought that too. Well so far i pulled the motor and transmission. Dropped both oil pans and front cover, water pump. Oil pump is still good. Put a new timing chain tensioner in and seal everything back up. I already have it sitting in the engine bay but i just need to bolt up the mounts. Not going to worry about hooking cooolant lines up til i know the motor will run good cuz ill probably end up pullin it out again..Ill let you know how the start up goes tonight when i get home from work..

[the converted]

Angry X-G/F

Nice, didn't think of that one.

[clever240sx]

Holy **** i did just break up with a girl that ive been seeing for over a year...yeaaaaaa but she isnt that smart to do that kind of thing..

[Blown240sx]

The motor did come with a S15 ball bearing turbo on it that blew up within a month of the previous owner owning it. So that could be where it came from.

Sounds to me it was just something unfortunate. Motor was a fresh stock rebuild, the timing chain tensioner cracking is very odd but that seems to be your issue. If the chain tensioner is loosing pressure it would allow the chain to jump time and could attribute to some of the knock numbers. Also the excess slack in the chain would cause the knock sensor to read higher.Did you just keep driving it when the knock reading went up? How high were they reading?
Modified by Blown240sx at 2:30 PM 12/7/2008

[Koshin]

how high were your knock levels?? I would like to know as well..

[Blown240sx]

Did you change anything from when this car was bought? Boost, Power FC Settings, and gas octane rating?

[nuts510]

Only thing I can come up with is the crank angle sensor has ball bearings and aluminum housing I wonder if that came apart comes out with a very easily put the ball bearings in the oil pan