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Has anyone tried this for the blackout headlight mod with fibreglass eyelids, im wondering if baking it at the required 350 degrees will damage the paint on the fibreglass.


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I don't know personally but any reliable paint shop / auto body should know. They backed the paint onto my fiberglass eyelids, but off the headlight. You dont really want to get too much heat on your car. With a heat gun when removing my eyelids, we held it 1.5-2feet above the eyelid briefly. So it cant really take too much heat.

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Im not trying to take the eyelid off, im trying to take the headlight apart, ive tried using a heatgun and its almost impossible so i need to know if i can put it in the oven without damaging the paint on the eyelid or the actual fibreglass.

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DaCoupe wrote:Im not trying to take the eyelid off, im trying to take the headlight apart, ive tried using a heatgun and its almost impossible so i need to know if i can put it in the oven without damaging the paint on the eyelid or the actual fibreglass.
you would need to contact either brandonbeeb or lightwerkz... they've done it...

Brandon figured it out first.. their are a couple of options out there, but I don't know which is best.. that's why I say contact Brandon... he did mass production of retrofitted headlights.. and regardless of folks opinion on the final products, i'd assume he's a phucking pro at taking the factory lights apart now...

remember, they used a different type of silicone to seal our headlights than what they normally use... so its not gonna be as easy as it normally would!

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+1 what doc said.

also, dangeris alters his own lights as well (to my knowledge anyway), so there is another option for advice.

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make sure to put grease on the pan so it doesn't stick!

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DaCoupe wrote:Has anyone tried this for the blackout headlight mod with fibreglass eyelids, im wondering if baking it at the required 350 degrees will damage the paint on the fibreglass.
this is my next project im doing over the next month or so. But my advice is take the eyelid off of the headlight and THEN bake the light. If you bake the lights y wouldnt you just take the amber strip out anyway yiou know. Im going to either take it out or tint it, but im not sure just yet

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PhEnoM78 wrote:
this is my next project im doing over the next month or so. But my advice is take the eyelid off of the headlight and THEN bake the light. If you bake the lights y wouldnt you just take the amber strip out anyway yiou know. Im going to either take it out or tint it, but im not sure just yet
its not that easy... folks here tried the normal aking way, and melted their headlights... folks here tried to use a heat gun... and meltd their headlights...

it can be done though....

there's a write up here somewhere... somthing about setting the oven to a certain temp, and when it reaches it, turning the oven off, and then putting the headlights in there.... as the temp of the een slowly cools, it will warm the headlights in a manner that doesn't melt the headlight... that's just one way, but I don't have the specifics on that!

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here's something i saw LBC post in a different thread... idk if it's the same thing, or similar... hope it helps...
LongBeachCoupe wrote:a little google search...

3. Remove all bulbs from headlamps.

4. Use a heat gun or bake the headlamps in the oven. Work on only one headlamp at a time. Set the oven to 200 degrees for about 5 minutes. Put the headlights in and BAKE them for 8-10 minutes, try to avoid opening the oven every 30 seconds to check on them. Make sure you put foil on the baking sheet if you use one. The housing on the bare metal will probably melt. Don't worry about the small black venting tubes. Just make sure none fall if into the oven.

5. While baking or before heating place a soft cloth or towel down on your work area. This is so you don't scratch headlamp when you’re working on it with the clear lens face down.

6. If you baked them use an over mitt on your secondary hand to hold the headlamp from moving. The metal parts are going to be hot. I find that a medium flat head screw driver works best. Slowly pry apart the front lens from the back housing, starting at the BOTTOM. Go SLOW, make sure you don’t crack the grey plastic clips that help hold the lens to the housing. If it seems hard to pry apart then the sealant isn't hot enough yet. You will just end up bending the housing up all along the edge and this does not help when you reseal them.

7. Remove the chrome piece that you're going to paint, set the other pieces somewhere safe.

PAINTING

8. Sand the chrome off. This prevents the paint from chipping easily and makes the primer stick a bit easier. Nothing worse then chipping the paint trying to get the trim piece back inside the lens.

9. Take your time and mask everything carefully. Be sure to cover the bulb opening in the back of the corner lens. If you don’t overspray will end up on the corner reflector.

10. Using a high temp paint put about 2-3 coats on with about 15 minutes between them. The number of coats depends, use your judgment. I would use a flat not a gloss. The first coat is most important. The paint will not cover it the first time. Don’t worry. All you want to do is get some color on it. The next coat will completely cover the plastic. Don’t put too much paint on! It will run easily because of all the steep angles.http://i8.photobucket.com/albu...6.jpg

11. Le the paint dry, preferably overnight. You don’t want to chip the paint reassembling the trim back into the lens or pulling off the paint when you take the masking off.http://i8.photobucket.com/albu...8.jpg

12. Finally, make sure you pre-bake them or heat them. Most high temp paints will change color and release chemicals. This will make your headlamps foggy inside or make a rainbow like film inside. This is another reason to use a flat color. It will typically turn into a semi-gloss once it’s exposed to heat. Now you're ready to seal them back up.

13. When you do pull the lens off and you get strings of grey OEM sealant don’t push it back into the housing! You'll just end up making it hard to push completely back together again. As long as you put enough new sealant in you'll be fine. Squeeze a good bead in the housing. Make sure you heat the housing back up first if you don't have a heat gun. Then just push the lens on. The sealant will glob out. DO NOT SMEAR IT OR WIPE IT!!! LET IT DRY!!!! When it does you can pull it right off with no damage to the lens. Never ever use Goo Gone to clean up any silicone sealant. You will make a huge mess and ruin the housing. It just smears the silicone everywhere.

14. Using a few clamps so that you ensure maximum seal, clamp the headlights up tight and let them dry for about 4 hours, the longer the better, if you can, leave it overnight. If the headlights don't seal up fully (you'll know cause the sealant wont feel wet) then you'll run the risk of the headlights FOGGING. Which you do NOT want and it the biggest risk in doing this project. As long as you use enough sealant and seal it up right, you will be fine.

15. Reinstall the lights back on your car and put back on your bumper. Over the next few days make sure to check if the headlights fog up, especially when its wet, or in the morning. If they do fog up, you probably didn't use enough sealant and/or didn't seal long enough.

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rjdmmfl1 wrote:
its not that easy... folks here tried the normal aking way, and melted their headlights... folks here tried to use a heat gun... and meltd their headlights...

it can be done though....

there's a write up here somewhere... something about setting the oven to a certain temp, and when it reaches it, turning the oven off, and then putting the headlights in there.... as the temp of the een slowly cools, it will warm the headlights in a manner that doesn't melt the headlight... that's just one way, but I don't have the specifics on that!
That's correct Doc...that's called receding heat. I believe kpsoulja did the write up on cracking open the lights first before anyone did it. He set the oven at 250 degrees and when it got up to temp he stuck the light in for 10 minutes. I think he had to do that 2 - 3 times before he got it opened. I also wanna say that he wrapped the mounting tabs with foil as to diffuse the heat.

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dangeris wrote:
That's correct Doc...that's called receding heat. I believe kpsoulja did the write up on cracking open the lights first before anyone did it. He set the oven at 250 degrees and when it got up to temp he stuck the light in for 10 minutes. I think he had to do that 2 - 3 times before he got it opened. I also wanna say that he wrapped the mounting tabs with foil as to diffuse the heat.
im going to be following his writeup and i have a broken headlight to try this out on so im not worried lol if it doesnt work ill still cry lmao. BUT i will still have my headlight so w/e

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when i redid my one headlight, brandon told me 245 F and watch out for it OFTEN do NOT keep it in longer than 4-6 mins, and just pull it out, work on it, put it in, repeat. a lot.

its a TIMELY process. you need at least a day to pull this shyt apart from the stock glue. take your time, and watch it. i was nervous as hell when i did mine. just pay attention and work at it- u'll be fine. :D

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2008AltiCoupeDan wrote:when i redid my one headlight, brandon told me 245 F and watch out for it OFTEN do NOT keep it in longer than 4-6 mins, and just pull it out, work on it, put it in, repeat. a lot.

its a TIMELY process. you need at least a day to pull this shyt apart from the stock glue. take your time, and watch it. i was nervous as hell when i did mine. just pay attention and work at it- u'll be fine. :D

gl
did you have fibreglass eyelids when you did this?

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DaCoupe wrote:
did you have fibreglass eyelids when you did this?
Dude,..stop with the eyelids already. Eyelids are an accessory that you put on afterwards. They don't come stock and are only held on the light by 3M double sided tape. If you're gonna bake your lights to take them apart, take off the eyelids first, then bake 'em

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PhEnoM78 wrote:
im going to be following his writeup and i have a broken headlight to try this out on so im not worried lol if it doesnt work ill still cry lmao. BUT i will still have my headlight so w/e
Can someone post his write up in here so i can follow it, im taking this on today as i tried doing it with a heatgun but only got i partially open im gonna bake it to finish it off and hopefully thatll do it

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Ask and you shall receive! Good Luck To ya!

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=335705

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ive seen a lot of how to vids on youtube about this, ill see if i can get one on here...s*** i cant find it, i seen a while back..$900 for that headlight group buy seems hella steep. the completed product looks really messy, but i dunno,maybe thats how its suppose to look.

they do place it in an oven, only twice tho.it was a angel/demon eye, black out diy install...

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blackteam02 wrote:ive seen a lot of how to vids on youtube about this, ill see if i can get one on here...s*** i cant find it, i seen a while back..$900 for that headlight group buy seems hella steep. the completed product looks really messy, but i dunno,maybe thats how its suppose to look.

they do place it in an oven, only twice tho.it was a angel/demon eye, black out diy install...
The toughst part is opening up the lights and $900 does seem steep. Me and surmanm paid out more than that amount! and no, it's not suppose to look messy at all. Honestly, they're supposed to look like a display case showing off the projector and what ever else is inside the headlight. Check out my sig above and click on the gif to take a closer view of the pics..

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Sorry dangeris i meant to say i cant find kpsoulja's writeup

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NP man... I know kpsoulja did his lights but I knew there was a write up on it to by him or someone else. Anyway, that article should help you out.

on a side note,..is that HUGE go kart track still around where you live?

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i meant the re-gluing or reassembly of the headlights look shotty, looks like the PB&J i just had for lunch today! i didnt mean the inside(projectors) of the lamps.

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dangeris wrote:NP man... I know kpsoulja did his lights but I knew there was a write up on it to by him or someone else. Anyway, that article should help you out.

on a side note,..is that HUGE go kart track still around where you live?
Which one? the one at playdium? or that one near paintballl city?

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DaCoupe wrote:
Which one? the one at playdium? or that one near paintballl city?
Not sure..all i remember was a huge go cart track

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indoor or outdoor dangeris?

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