I wonder how long this has been going on.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US...s.ap/
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Little do they know that the Sulfur has destroyed their cats.Do your fellow man a favor and call the TV station/newspaper reporters and tell them to investigate the other damage.
It will require dyno testing, it won't show a MIL light just no emission reduction on 96 and later cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something similar happened in Minnesota and thousands of fuel injectors were destroyed.
"MANKATO — Richard Johnson, a supervisor for the Minnesota Department of Weights and Measures, has had his fill of detective work lately.
He’s been searching for an explanation as to why so many fuel injectors in the Mankato area have failed recently.
“I’m looking at this as sort of a murder mystery,” Johnson said.
So far, however, the search has been full of dead ends. Tests of fuel from area gas stations and Williams Pipeline have revealed no substandard gasoline.
“It meets all the basic quality parameters of the ASTM [American Society for Testing Materials],” Johnson said. The tests have measured several different properties of fuel samples, including its octane, volatility, oxygenate content, density and distillation curve.
But Johnson isn’t ready to give up the search.
“To have the number of fuel injector problems we’re seeing in the Mankato area is extremely unusual,” he said. “I think the widespread nature of the problems is an indication that there certainly is a problem down there.”
Williams Pipeline Co. operates a terminal just west of Mankato that supplies most of the gas stations in the area with fuel.
Kelly Swan, a spokesman for Williams, said his company tests fuel before it enters the pipeline, again in terminal storage tanks, and a third time when it is pumped to a loading rack.
“Nothing has tested out of the ordinary,” he said. “It’s very baffling.”
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It will require dyno testing, it won't show a MIL light just no emission reduction on 96 and later cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Something similar happened in Minnesota and thousands of fuel injectors were destroyed.
"MANKATO — Richard Johnson, a supervisor for the Minnesota Department of Weights and Measures, has had his fill of detective work lately.
He’s been searching for an explanation as to why so many fuel injectors in the Mankato area have failed recently.
“I’m looking at this as sort of a murder mystery,” Johnson said.
So far, however, the search has been full of dead ends. Tests of fuel from area gas stations and Williams Pipeline have revealed no substandard gasoline.
“It meets all the basic quality parameters of the ASTM [American Society for Testing Materials],” Johnson said. The tests have measured several different properties of fuel samples, including its octane, volatility, oxygenate content, density and distillation curve.
But Johnson isn’t ready to give up the search.
“To have the number of fuel injector problems we’re seeing in the Mankato area is extremely unusual,” he said. “I think the widespread nature of the problems is an indication that there certainly is a problem down there.”
Williams Pipeline Co. operates a terminal just west of Mankato that supplies most of the gas stations in the area with fuel.
Kelly Swan, a spokesman for Williams, said his company tests fuel before it enters the pipeline, again in terminal storage tanks, and a third time when it is pumped to a loading rack.
“Nothing has tested out of the ordinary,” he said. “It’s very baffling.”
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The exact same thing happened with Shell up here. General Motors and Ford actually ran ads up here telling motorists who drive those vehicles not to put Shell gasoline in their vehicles.
Shell sued General Motors and Ford for liable.
Transport Canada (an arm of the Canadian federal government) launched an investigation.
In February '04 Shell was found to have deliberatly sold bad gas and ordered by Transport Canada to pay the expenses of anyone whose vehicle was damaged by their brand of gas. Owners of vehicles who had to have catalytics and fuel gauges replaced had to present Transport Canada/Shell with proof that they reularly filled up with Shell gasoline by presenting receipts subsequent to the damage.
Recently Esso/Exxon up here is going through the same thing.
General Motors and Ford are now suing Shell.
Ever since Transport Canada's ruling Shell Canada has watched its business sink.
Shell sued General Motors and Ford for liable.
Transport Canada (an arm of the Canadian federal government) launched an investigation.
In February '04 Shell was found to have deliberatly sold bad gas and ordered by Transport Canada to pay the expenses of anyone whose vehicle was damaged by their brand of gas. Owners of vehicles who had to have catalytics and fuel gauges replaced had to present Transport Canada/Shell with proof that they reularly filled up with Shell gasoline by presenting receipts subsequent to the damage.
Recently Esso/Exxon up here is going through the same thing.
General Motors and Ford are now suing Shell.
Ever since Transport Canada's ruling Shell Canada has watched its business sink.
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I did a not very scientific experiment about 2 years ago. I purchased gas of all grades from all the local stations and placed a measured amount into individual glass containers (baby food jars) to test vaporization potential and time to vaporize at standard temp/pressure.
Chevron and Amoco looked the best to start with, being clear, and evaporated the fastest and nothing behind.
All the other brands ranged somewhere in the middle with small differences in color and evaporation.
Shell was the absolute worst, being dark yellow to start, it took the longest to evaporate and left the most crap in the bottom of the jar that refused to evaporate.
Since then I only run shell if it is my last resort next to walking.
Chevron and Amoco looked the best to start with, being clear, and evaporated the fastest and nothing behind.
All the other brands ranged somewhere in the middle with small differences in color and evaporation.
Shell was the absolute worst, being dark yellow to start, it took the longest to evaporate and left the most crap in the bottom of the jar that refused to evaporate.
Since then I only run shell if it is my last resort next to walking.
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Very few marketers own refineries any longer! So who ever they buy the gasoline from that week is the problem. And that varies buy location
They don't want the public to understand that so they may take some of the public blame........but they bill the refineries unless some thing weird happen in the storage tank farm.
If too many workers and dead birds and animals fall in things get soupy. Anybody seen Joe this week?
They only have so many tanks and mixing new batch A with some residual batch B can create some interesting results.
In theory all gasoline is fungable and can be mixed with no bad results............obviously something they didn't test for caused the problems.http://www.r-t-o-l.com/modules...id=98
It is getting more dangerous as the US buys processed gasoline from overseas refineries [Venezuela, Mexico, Aruba, and Netherlands] some of these interact badly.
They don't want the public to understand that so they may take some of the public blame........but they bill the refineries unless some thing weird happen in the storage tank farm.
If too many workers and dead birds and animals fall in things get soupy. Anybody seen Joe this week?
They only have so many tanks and mixing new batch A with some residual batch B can create some interesting results.
In theory all gasoline is fungable and can be mixed with no bad results............obviously something they didn't test for caused the problems.http://www.r-t-o-l.com/modules...id=98
It is getting more dangerous as the US buys processed gasoline from overseas refineries [Venezuela, Mexico, Aruba, and Netherlands] some of these interact badly.