B16 Sentra LED relay?

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Please help I'm looking to change my flasher relay for an led flasher relay. Can anyone help me?


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What do you mean by "flasher" relay?
In the mean time, you can take a look at the FSM to see if there's anything in there of use.
www.nicoclub.com/fsm

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I'm looking for the blinker relay. I want to replace with and Led type. So I don't need resistors anymore. Can't seem to find it anywhere.

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Ah, yeah, the FSM should have that listed somewhere.
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If you end up doing it, take some pictures and do a little how-to article :)

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Roger that. Thank you. I will

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The reason why you need resistors is because of the power difference... The relay you need won't be a specific "type" for LEDs or whatever, it will just have the compatible wattage for the array you want to use. I was under the impression that you ALWAYS need to use a resistor with an LED. Otherwise you risk overdriving them and wearing them out from heat damage...

BTW, are you using 12v LEDs or are you actually meaning to ask about using some kind of power converter?

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They are 12v but they hyperflash without resistors. I just want to be able to use then without producing high amounts of heat. I found these but don't know which on I need or how to use it. https://www.superbrightleds.com/search/ ... r%20relay/
If this helps

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Now I'm just confused, those are supposed to be direct, drop-in replacements... aren't they?

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Ok resistors are needed to fool the flasher relay into thinking a bulb in the same wattage/resistance range is inserted. This is because the flasher relay is only factory programmed to accept higher draw incandescents. (As you know led bulbs use a fraction of the wattage/resistance of an incandescent bulb.) Otherwise the flasher would not register the same when inserted and in turn hyperflash. Inserting a relay that is programmed to recognize the draw of an LED eliminates the need for resistors. Resistors basically convert power to heat so the relay thinks there is a larger draw bulb in there. Incandescents, are basically, clear resistors that glow. These relays allow the lower wattage led to run unassisted with no overpowering or heat issues. I hope this helps everyone understand my battle.

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:rotfl You can save the science lesson for another user.

I was trying to say you can get any other relay and use it so long as the coil voltage and load voltage/wattage is the same. It doesn't have to be the expensive, rip-off type you see online.

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Actually, I find his break-down quite useful for future users that might be searching this very subject. Its pretty universally applicable (across all vehicles).

Good thread!

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Dattebayo wrote:I was trying to say you can get any other relay and use it so long as the coil voltage and load voltage/wattage is the same. It doesn't have to be the expensive, rip-off type you see online.
Problem with that is finding one with the correct pin orientation to fit a Nissan... I know I've tried off-the shelf relays on my Z before. Didn't fit.

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It's highly unlikely you're going to find a drop in LED flasher relay. If you did, it would be pure luck. The easiest solution is to buy a generic one, like you linked to on SBLED's, and then wire it in. It's actually not that hard. Almost all flasher relays have a generic receptacle available with a pigtail. Put Male spade connectors on the ends of the wiring and plug them into the factory female spades, in the correct position of course. Once you've confirmed it works, then use something to hold them in place. I like RTV because you can still remove it later if needed. Some people use hot glue. It's more permanent, but it holds better. That being said, I've never had an issue with RTV.

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Oh, they even have the relay socket, I love that website!
https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... 1154/2741/

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And now that I've done more looking, https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinf ... ab/Reviews the last review said that it worked perfectly in his 240sx. It's likely it will work in your B16 as well. Nissan uses the housing for mounting, and you wont have that for the new relay, so you'll probably have to zip-tie it in place.

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Thank you for all the informative replies. My apologies got being absent in the forum. I had obligations which needed undivided attention. As for my project I'll look into that relay socket and try to rewire for the new relay. I've got these 3157 switchbacks that look pretty sharp. They are connected to resistors at the moment but I'm much more interested in reducing power and heat output. When I do my project I'll make a video and detailed step by step guide. Thank you again for all your input and support!

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