AWD Lock

[mvjunkie]

Ok, so I know the rogue automatically has awd enabled up to 6mph from a stop. What is the confirmed speed when you push the AWD Lock button?

Let's say its 20mph, and your stuck in mud, if your wheels are spinning but your not moving, but the speedo says your going faster then that because your stuck and they are just spinning, does it kick off the lock? Or does it sense your not actually traveling the fast?

Now onto the real question. I am sure the AWD Lock speed setting that it will disengage at is programmed into the computer. There has to be a way to re-program it to stay in AWD to a higher speed. How would I do this? I know its not going to something that is commonly done, but my mindset if there is a will, there is a way. So how could I do this? Who could I contact that may have the tools to program this? It can't be THAT hard.

Thanks in advance for the responses

[ImStricken06]

Ok, so I know the rogue automatically has awd enabled up to 6mph from a stop. What is the confirmed speed when you push the AWD Lock button?

Let's say its 20mph, and your stuck in mud, if your wheels are spinning but your not moving, but the speedo says your going faster then that because your stuck and they are just spinning, does it kick off the lock? Or does it sense your not actually traveling the fast?

Now onto the real question. I am sure the AWD Lock speed setting that it will disengage at is programmed into the computer. There has to be a way to re-program it to stay in AWD to a higher speed. How would I do this? I know its not going to something that is commonly done, but my mindset if there is a will, there is a way. So how could I do this? Who could I contact that may have the tools to program this? It can't be THAT hard.

Thanks in advance for the responses

tough to say. if all 4 wheels are spinning in the mud, idk if the abs sensors are triggering awd to stay on. the speedo will read a higher MPH than awd likes to work under.
idk if awd keeps it locked up to 20 or so mph. i believe it does, but you risk over heating it if you do it for long.

[TaiLuu]

That first question is tough, unless the computer is intelligent enough to read that the car can't go from zero to 20mph in half a second then it would think it's just driving.
I wouldn't even have the awd pass 20mph just because how small the differential is. If that rear diff spins to fast, it will blow. It's so small that you can't even drive in reverse with awd because the fluids aren't meant to sling the otherway.

[ImStricken06]

That first question is tough, unless the computer is intelligent enough to read that the car can't go from zero to 20mph in half a second then it would think it's just driving.
I wouldn't even have the awd pass 20mph just because how small the differential is. If that rear diff spins to fast, it will blow. It's so small that you can't even drive in reverse with awd because the fluids aren't meant to sling the otherway.

you do realize the rear diff spins as you drive, right? the only thing thats different between full lock up and fwd driving is the clutch pack is not fully engaged. you cant stop the rear diff from spinning unless you stopped moving the rear wheels

[DTASFAB]

That first question is tough, unless the computer is intelligent enough to read that the car can't go from zero to 20mph in half a second then it would think it's just driving.
I wouldn't even have the awd pass 20mph just because how small the differential is. If that rear diff spins to fast, it will blow. It's so small that you can't even drive in reverse with awd because the fluids aren't meant to sling the otherway.

you do realize the rear diff spins as you drive, right? the only thing thats different between full lock up and fwd driving is the clutch pack is not fully engaged. you cant stop the rear diff from spinning unless you stopped moving the rear wheels

Is that why a flatbed is needed for towing one of these things?

[ImStricken06]

you do realize the rear diff spins as you drive, right? the only thing thats different between full lock up and fwd driving is the clutch pack is not fully engaged. you cant stop the rear diff from spinning unless you stopped moving the rear wheels

Is that why a flatbed is needed for towing one of these things?

precisely!

[DTASFAB]

I really wish I'd gotten a FWD Rogue. It's a shame they didn't have any in the color I wanted with the packages I wanted. All this AWD nonsense for a day or two of snow every year when I'll probably drive my FWD Toyota with 13" wheels to save the Rogue from road salt.

[followingnfront]

It depends on how you look at it (in response to the post above). I for one dont want another car that is not awd after ive experienced this car with it. Awd is useful in more conditions that just snow. Gravel, curvy roads when the system senses a wheel or two need more traction, off road, ice, etc. To me its an extra sense of stability i welcome fully. Just my. 02

[ImStricken06]

It depends on how you look at it (in response to the post above). I for one dont want another car that is not awd after ive experienced this car with it. Awd is useful in more conditions that just snow. Gravel, curvy roads when the system senses a wheel or two need more traction, off road, ice, etc. To me its an extra sense of stability i welcome fully. Just my. 02

+1. great post homie.

a lot of people dont understand how useful awd is, because they dont see it working. its one of those feature people think they need to trigger via a button in order for it to be working. it doesnt get enough credit. this system is always running(even if not engaged). tight turns, wet surfaces, etc. its saved a lot of cars from accidents - without the driver even know it kicked in.

[DTASFAB]

I've felt it kick in, and I hated it. This was turning a corner on wet ground that was bumpy and uneven. The little traction control light came on for a second or two and the car was herky jerky. I suppose it's just a matter of personal preference, but I feel perfectly comfortable driving a car with FWD, no ABS, no airbags, and basically no safety features at all. These other things just make it difficult for me to handle a pressure situation, because I have to not only get myself out of whatever pickle I'm in, but I also have to think about how the vehicle's "safety" systems are going to react. The steering overcompensation that occurs when ABS is activated is something I'll never really master, because there's no opportunity to practice. Without those systems, I know I can usually steer as long as I don't hit the brakes, and I can use the brakes to slow down or stop as long as I'm going straight, and it won't really matter if I skid a little when the wheels are pointed straight. I might be skidding, but at least I can anticipate 1-2 seconds in advance when I know a computer is not going to lock up the wheels without any driver input. It's all about controlling momentum. ABS, traction control, AWD all change the momentum of the moving vehicle in ways that are totally unpredictable.

[ImStricken06]

i will agree that i like less intrusion. i always turn off traction control in the snow. i know very well how to drift, and how to throttle out of a snow/slippery caused drift. i hate it when the power gets cut, if the car senses a drift/spinning wheels.