autox question

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i have a 90 240sx and it is pure stock. i'm planning on autocrossing soon.

now i heard from my bro that you can upgrade the struts and a front strut bar or something and still be in stock class. is this correct? I want to make sure that if i upgrade something on my car, i can still be in stock class. well, if the upgrades are true, then what else can i upgrade on the car and still be in stock class? what if i get brembo rotors and after market brake pads? will that boost me up a class?


S13240
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I say go do a search on google and you'll find the answers instead of waiting a couple days just for a stupid reply or two.

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yes you can upgrade all wear items such as brake pads and rotors, oil, brake fluid, shocks/struts, bushings, tires, etc.

You can also upgrade safety equipment, intake, exhaust (cat back only) and stuff like that...

Swaybars, springs, spherical links and stuff like that will kick you out of a stock class.

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Welcome to nico with your GS 240 :)

First off youll be in G-class stock, or GS as its known. Now in GS you can change the struts, as long as they use the exact attachment points and style as OEM, and dont alter the suspension geometry..

You cant add a strut tower brace in GS or any stock class unless it was a delaer option for that year. S13's never came with one from the dealer here, so no.

The front antisway bar on the other hand can be upgraded. So a whiteline ST cusco front antisway bar can be used. The rear bar cannot be altered..

Brakes can only be the same type and size as stock. Meaning brembo blanks (same as oem) from say tirerack are cool, but brembo slotted, or drilled are not. Any pad can be used.

For more basic info please visit, Stock class rules Keep in mind this isnt the official listing, but rather, a rather complete representaion of it. I would suggest beccoming a member, getting a rulebook, and following up on the scca fasttrack bulletins for exact info per classes. Also keep in mind that the rules state what you can do.... If you dont see that you can do it, you cannot...

SCCA forums Solo2 forum

These are 2 scca / solo forums I visit often. The scca forums are to the point anal about the books and will let you know that a shift knob, as it isnt stated that you can remove / change it in stock class, is illegal !!! It may seem like alot of rules but its tons of fun.

edit: BAH I got beat to the punch by 240_keyy.... I knew I would as he is another resident cone killer, but mines more informative :) Oh yeah and by the way gunclap thanks for a refreshing first post. Im so tired of the same generic first posts we see day in and day out.

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S13240 wrote:I say go do a search on google and you'll find the answers instead of waiting a couple days just for a stupid reply or two.


Stupid eh? Do you doubt the the information that nico members hold on different subjects?

I rem my first auto-x.. I found out about it (solo2) by accident, and found the cfr or 83rd regions site on a saturday to see an event the next day. Stayed up a bit ltoo late gathering info on the net and ran the event that next day :) Ive been hooked ever since. It was fun other then running over a guys tire he placed behind me, then his torque wrench, and finally a guys tool box I tapped. Havent hit anyones stuff since haha.

Oh and dont listen to 240_keyy he's a to hell with the rules dsp killer :)

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What? I didn't do anything wrong! (just don't look too close at anything, and for the love of God do not open the hood. You might also want do disregard the BOV noise...)

:D

(BTW: I will not be running in DSP any more, I will probably move up to SM or SM2 or something like that)

96_S14_SE
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Youll be in SM as its a 4 seat chassis and will be equipped with a FI sub 3l motor :)

My friends z32TT will be running sm2, may god have pitty on his soul.... Its damn fast (12.1 on stock t22/t25's) but riding nearly stock as far as handling is concerned...

gunclap
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thanks for the info guys! very helpful

I guess i'll just get some azenis and aftermarket struts for now. I'm also going to Canada in June for a wedding, so I'm going to get a VLSD.

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96_S14_SE wrote:Stupid eh? Do you doubt the the information that nico members hold on different subjects?...


I don't doubt anyone's words, I was just implying to him that instead of waiting for an answer he can try to look for it himself on google. And yes sometimes some Nico members do give some stupid replies and mess around.

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I know I was just goofing.... Shoulda put the smilies on it huh?

Oh and one more thing in stock class I would run a set of victo's vs the azenis... But thats just me, and the azenis are a good choice as well if you dont want to swap tires at the event.

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i ran autocross in my region sunday and their were some cars running slicks in G-stock. i looked at the rules and it was fine in GS. That was my first autocross. Nick

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240_Keyy wrote:You can also upgrade safety equipment, intake,


I didnt think intake was allowed to be upgraded. I might be misinformed though.:cool:

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take off the bottom half of the airbox, and ziptie your filter in there. Ghetto fabulous all the way. :)

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no no ghetto in my ride thank you very much. just beat up from stupidity and shopping carts. I refuse to go ghetto on my ride yo.

gunclap
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i went with my bro to his first ever autocross event with his 91 mr2 at fontana, CA on sunday. he has gutted cats, agx struts and some sort of aftermarket springs. everything else is stock and they put him in E stock. i guess they realized he was a novice so they put him there. i dunno..he did pretty bad on his third run though. spun out like a muther..it was fun watching him. i can't wait till i go.

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spining out is great. unless they get mad at you for wreckless driving. I pulled a sweet spin into a burn out and they got mad at me. not that that suprised me but yea dont be an a$$ like me and get in trouble for something stupid.:D

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LaureltheQueen wrote:take off the bottom half of the airbox, and ziptie your filter in there. Ghetto fabulous all the way. :)


I prefer the not so ghetto, ghetto fabbed way of cutting everything but the bottom and top / corner frame out of the lower air box. It flows the same, but doesnt flop around, and secures the filter element just like oem... Hmmm I still have to do that to the girls 92'.

But thats not legal in Stock either btw, as only the element can be removed / replaced to something like a K&N drop in. Modifying the airbox, or replacement of it all together will push you to sts, technically. And you brother with a gutted cat would be in street prepaired now just for that, if you wanted to be anal about it....

Oh yeah, and I thought about fixing one of my moms pop up canopies. My lil brother left it out and the rain snapped one of the legs on it, like a year ago... Mabey Ill weld it up and bring it with me on sunday, as we had a nomad shade station setup last month to deal with the blistering florida sun... Turned a tt-z32 (friends gf's, as they have tt-Z's and we have s-chassis') into the main support for a lean-to hehe....


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