autopower roll CAGE pics

Post by **redamnavit** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

Does anyone have one of these installed in an s13? Not the roll BAR, but the CAGE? I'm curious whether the dash needs any modification to get these to fit or not. I'm willing to do it but I want to know what I'm getting into before I lay out 600 + shipping...

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

if your driving this on the street i wouldn't want to buy that cage.

Post by **Nismo_Freak** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

w1ngzer0 wrote:if your driving this on the street i wouldn't want to buy that cage.

What he said...

And any proper cage will make you cut holes in the dash, just accept it.

Post by **rico05** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

Cusco one dosen't. That is a commonly used street cage.http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/june04/240sx/

Post by **redamnavit** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

rico05 wrote:Cusco one dosen't. That is a commonly used street cage.http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/june04/240sx/

From all accounts I've heard the Cusco one isn't acceptable for pretty much any (SCCA, NASA, FormulaD) racing organization, which would make it useless for me.

This car isn't my daily driver. I appreciate that a cage is going to be inconvienent; that's why I have another car. I just want to see what an install looks like.

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

yah i know what you meen redamnavit. But i still want to be able to drive my car on the steet

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

ok i did a google on SCCA approved roll cages. I want to run solo or solo 2 im not sure on the auto x differences. But at any rate you don't need a roll cage for solo.

http://www.teammiata.com/mall/hard-dog-cage.htm

Post by **MainEvent212** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

what does that link have to do w/ anything? lol

Post by **redamnavit** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

MainEvent212 wrote:what does that link have to do w/ anything? lol

I suppose it gives an example of how an SCCA-legal cage looks installed?

I finally found someone with an autopower cage. no pics unfortunately but apparently there's no dash cutting at all. It just blocks the glove compartment, much like the cusco one.

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

im confused. Can you really flip over on auto x or a road corse? i can see if your running with other cars. But... i dunno

Post by **Aries** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

FWIW, the cusco cage will not pass inspection at your local drag strip. The autopower will, but I wouldn't want to be the one in a wrecked car with an autopower cage.

Custom is just the way to go, and for safety, no price is too much.

Post by **Projex240** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

The cuscom one can be welded once in the car and it wil pass inspection-From what I see--the cage's only point of wekaness is that its bolt together. Which is nice for install, But wont pass inspection at a sanctioned event. I wouldput it in, then weld the joints--but it aint comin out--not easily, maybe not at all..

Just a thought

Also---do these cages exist for the s14?ones that are bolt in and not required to cut the front dash--the rear dash doesnt mean crap to me.---it just rattles anyway.

_josh

Post by **91rs13** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

I do not know if the tubing size on the Cusco is the right diameter--or if it is DOM or ERW --but without a cross brace between the main hoop (behind the driver) I do not think it is SCCA legal.

You do not need a Roll Bar / Roll cage for Solo2. You can flip over but it is not common. If done properly it will help stiffen the car.You do need an approved roll bar/roll cage for Solo1 ( time trials)You do need an approved roll cage for Club racing.

On the Track ( track days, HPDE's etc) it is a VERY GOOD thing to have.

If you use the car on the street--you probably want a roll bar--as if your head hits the roll cage tubing without a helmet on--your head stands a good chance of being cracked.

Custom cages are nice--but if you plan on using it in competition--make sure you got to someone who knows the rules of that sanctioning body.

Post by **marshun** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

the best way to go abotu this is to just get a custom cage.

Post by **redamnavit** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

91rs13 wrote:If you use the car on the street--you probably want a roll bar--as if your head hits the roll cage tubing without a helmet on--your head stands a good chance of being cracked.

Now this is a legitimate concern for me. I do need to be able to drive the car to and from the track, which is not a trivial distance...

Post by **msaskin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

redamnavit wrote:Now this is a legitimate concern for me. I do need to be able to drive the car to and from the track, which is not a trivial distance...

Proper roll-bar/cage padding will make the concern of head to bar impact non-existent.

I've driven a fair number of race-prepped (read: full cage) cars on the street, all of which had roll-bar padding at any point that a person's body (head, legs, arms, etc.) could come into contact with it.

~matt

Post by **91rs13** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

--Proper roll-bar/cage padding will make the concern of head to bar impact non-existent.--

I am sorry But I have to disagree with this comment. Padding will lessen the impact, but even the high density foam will not keep your head safe without a helmet.

I have had my helmet bounce off padded bars --you will feel the impact--even with a helmet on.

If the concern is just back and forth to the track--and you only track the car,in my opinion--go for the full cage. If you drive the car around town, back and forth to work etc--and only occasionally go to the track--I would go with a roll bar. Just an opinion.

Post by **w1ngzer0** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

91rs13 wrote:--Proper roll-bar/cage padding will make the concern of head to bar impact non-existent.--

I am sorry But I have to disagree with this comment. Padding will lessen the impact, but even the high density foam will not keep your head safe without a helmet.

I have had my helmet bounce off padded bars --you will feel the impact--even with a helmet on.

If the concern is just back and forth to the track--and you only track the car,in my opinion--go for the full cage. If you drive the car around town, back and forth to work etc--and only occasionally go to the track--I would go with a roll bar. Just an opinion.

i think padding is required with SCCA and roll cages. i remember that somewhere.. but i forget where :/

I have 4 state SCCA 4 hours away each and want to know proper roll cage diameters. I meen is there a diagram somewhere. I looked everywhere on SCCA's website.. but i couldn't find it

Post by **msaskin** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

Buy a copy of the GCR's. If you're set on having a custom roll bar made up, you're going to need to give a copy to the shop anyhow so they can follow the rules.

~matt

Post by **redamnavit** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

91rs13 wrote:If the concern is just back and forth to the track--and you only track the car,in my opinion--go for the full cage. If you drive the car around town, back and forth to work etc--and only occasionally go to the track--I would go with a roll bar. Just an opinion.

I think I'll go the incremental route and get the autopower race roll bar. Later I'll have their cage extension (or a custom one) welded to it when I can devote the car 100% to track use.

Thanks everyone for your help with this.

Post by **Bryan Smith** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

Damn I wouldnt trust the cusco cage at all. Just have a custom one WELDED in.

Post by **Projex240** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

I agree with the padding comment. Its going to lessen the blow, but not take it away fully. If you roll over, especially on the street, you head is going to hit alot more than just a bar---maybe like the roof, or the concrete, or the a/b piller, etc.

Padding is better to have incase of light accidents, as hitting it willl HURT badly. Just pad the bars--it takes like 30 minutes or less, and its not like its ugly or takes away from the cages functionality.

-josh

Post by **redamnavit** » Sat Jul 31, 2004 5:34 am

Projex240 wrote:I agree with the padding comment. Its going to lessen the blow, but not take it away fully. If you roll over, especially on the street, you head is going to hit alot more than just a bar---maybe like the roof, or the concrete, or the a/b piller, etc.

Padding is better to have incase of light accidents, as hitting it willl HURT badly. Just pad the bars--it takes like 30 minutes or less, and its not like its ugly or takes away from the cages functionality.

-josh

This is a good point too; I suppose hitting the side of the car with my skull is little better than a padded bar. I really need to see one of these cages to judge what kind of fit they offer. I'll see if autopower can send me a few shots of an installed cage.

Post by **Mazworx** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:55 am

Check out http://www.mazworx.com. Just into making bolt-in roll bars and roll cages after doing weld in custom ones for years. We make our cages out of 1 3/4" x .095 DOM and will have no problem being legal for SCCA, NASA, or drift events. We also powdercoat them in a textured satin black and can do custom colors upon request. Please contact me a [email protected] installed pics.

Post by **GripR** » Sun May 15, 2005 9:31 pm

This is the thing, if you are going to rock a roll cage, get a bucket seat and 4 pt harness to keep you locked in your seat. If you have a cage and riding in the stock seats you risk being tossed around in the car and most likely having contact with the cage in a roll or a heavy accident. If you plan on keeping your full interior I suggest you get auto power cage because it will fit snug with your interior. If you decided to strip the interior and use an auto power cage, it will look kind of weird like monkey bars because there will be crush space between the chassis and cage. I would suggest you get a custom cage if you plan on stripping the interior. Check with your local SCCA organizers about cages and ask them for recommendations.

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