Autocross or track?

[nissanforlife]

Has anyone here ever had their Q out autocrossing or on a road course? I know a 4000 lb car isn't the best for auto-x .. lol.. but i think it would surprise some people.

[Rex]

A (former) regular used to have a pic of his car autocrossing in his sig. I know he's been doing a lot of traveling, but what ever happened to riswicki??

[nissanforlife]

Has anyone else spent time driving hard in the Q.. other than straight line.... lol..

[Mark86T]

I will be taking my Q out for autocross soon. Finished suspsension work so I feel it is ready now. I wanted to wait until I got my 4.08 gearing, but I may go without it. I'll post how it did.Eibach springsTokico blue strutsZ32 Midori adjustable front upper control armsZ32 Stillen adjustable rear upper control armsZ32 solid/adjustable tension rodsZ32 urethane subframe bushings

[cticknor666]

Those Tokico's look awesome in there.

[911/Q45]

I would recommend you pull the struts back out and replace the front boots/bump stops. It's cheap, pretty easy and will keep you from bottoming out the suspension.

[Jeff Williams]

I would recommend you pull the struts back out and replace the front boots/bump stops. It's cheap, pretty easy and will keep you from bottoming out the suspension.

I agree 100%. I struggled with the extra cost, but would not hesitate, again. It makes a huge difference. In fact, I am working on my second Q, and already have the boots and stops. Also, spring for some stainelss steel brake lines, and DOT4 fluid. You cant have too much help, when it comes to "WHOA!".

The car looks great.

[PoorManQ45]

If IRC, Ryan(1992Q45a) has a Q45 that used to be used for auto-x. Unfortunately he has been banned.

[redmanfx]

riswicki still checks us out from time to time, he just doesn't post. I've seen him on the active user list sometimes. I think it was all the stuff on the WE channel that did him in. I think he got another car and can't do much more to improve his Q and the Job of course.

I'll have some blues soon and no more Active Q.

Mark86T how do those adjustable control arms and tension rods feel?? Are they worth it?

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[elwesso]

riswicki still checks us out from time to time, he just doesn't post. I've seen him on the active user list sometimes. I think it was all the stuff on the WE channel that did him in. I think he got another car and can't do much more to improve his Q and the Job of course.

I'll have some blues soon and no more Active Q.

Mark86T how do those adjustable control arms and tension rods feel?? Are they worth it?

red

LOL.. We got talking about that on the phone, and that was humorous... He's got a few things planned for the Q as i understand it, but also another purchase coming to suppliment the Q

[nissanforlife]

sounds sweet. pics look great.. ? for those of you who have the "blues"How much does it help the handling and bodyroll?looking forward to hearing how the suspension setups work

[Mark86T]

Yes the control arms & tension rods help. They are solid not silicone filled, which means no play & no need to replace them. So I feel they are worth the price. The suspension still has a "big" ride while providing tight steering & handling. I feel it's the perfect balance for the Q. Big improvement over the "too soft for me" stock ride. Just my opinion.

[nissanforlife]

gud to hear.. i'd love to tighten up my Q some... not that the Q is bad in stock form.. but .. coming from the cars i did.. sometimes it feels like i'm sailing on the open sea...

[maxnix]

Will probably remove NISMO tension bushings from my Seattle Q45 in the future. No additional precision, but some degradation of the ride.

Where is Duane and his track G50? Still in Afghanistan? Autocrossing a G50 would be fun once right before tire replacement, but otherwise one has to wonder "Why?" Might as well slalom a locomotive.

[Mark86T]

Autocrossing a G50 would be fun once right before tire replacement, but otherwise one has to wonder "Why?" Might as well slalom a locomotive.

Why you ask? If for no other reason than to see the look on people's faces while this large luxury car carves some cones. I am taking mine autocrossing because a friend of mine has an 01 Maxima and we have a friendly competition going. I already beat him drag racing. 16.1 for me & 17.2 for him. Next is autocrossing. We may even do an open track event. I will bolt on my Yokohama A032rs to help get the Q to stick better. Poor Maxima is already down on HP. I almost feel sorry for him. Almost.

[rsiwicki]

here is the pic of my Q autocrossing.....

I have been just way too busy lately to do some posting. The Q will surprise people in other classes but not the class they stick you in. They group the Q with the Z28 Camero, Mustang, 3000GT, etc becuase of the HP rating. I got my a_s handed to me several times and I had attended several driving schools along with the autocross II license so skill was not lacking....the car is put simply in the wrong class for autocrossing. Anyway...the car was fun to push around the corners and to learn where to take the apex into a curve....I did this when the car was totally stock and I am planning this spring to take it back out there for a little R&R. I did earn some respect as they were surprised for such a big car how good my times were. The automatic transmission not downshifting into first at 35mph really sucked as the courses that I raced the car on were designed for speeds between 20 to 60mph so I was stuck in 2nd gear several times dying for the car to downshift.....it is not going to be cool here on Wednesday, but I plan for some more 1/4 ET's

[rsiwicki]

Red.....yes the WE network singles show did me in....Uggh!!!! I had a two separate girls recognize me from the show over new years...but not even a 12 pack of coronoa's could temp me to go with one of them...

btw....I can't post from my work pc anymore....something about a websense program thing the IT police installed into the company network that will not let me post 99% of the time onto forums etc....I guess it is good becuase I am there to work versus play on NICO.

[PoorManQ45]

Why you ask? If for no other reason than to see the look on people's faces while this large luxury car carves some cones.

I think you mean, "Because it would be funny to see the look on peoples face as a Land Barge Plows through the corners, missing every Apex" .

Just messin with ya. Don't you have to have some sort of safety equipment installed to go to the track?

[rsiwicki]

no safety equipment needed for basic autocrossing local autocrossing except a helmet for which you can rent for like $20....they design the track so tight that you can't exceed about 80mph to keep the safety factor in check but this can vary based on the your local autocross chapter. Autocrossing is mainly for people who want to learn how to drive their every day driver to the max limits in a safe controlled environment compared to street racing. Go look up autocrossing on the web and you will find a local group close to you and you will be surprised at the kinds of cars out there running as 90% of them are every day drivers with none to mild mods...nothing radical. As long as you keep your car operating in good condition...(battery tied down, nothing floating in the trunk, nothing leaking etc.) you can run you car after it goes through a tech inspection. Cost is about $20-30 bucks and you get anywhere from 5-6 runs over about 6 hours as there are a lot of other cars looking to run and they go buy classes of cars....so you have to wait your turn inbetween and you can learn as well from watching others how they take the lines on the course to see if that line looks faster. Also any slight modification...change in wheel size, springs, etc. from OEM automatically puts you into the modified class for which no Q will have a chance against a slightly modified Mustang or Camero.

PMQ....unless your PVC speaker tubes are tied down there is noway they will let you run...the car has got to be solid mechanically with nothing that could even remotely interfer with the driver.

I use to go once a month when I had the Accord (about 25 times) and then went about 7 times with the Q back in 99-00. There is noboody pressuring you to push the card harder and harder…it is you against the clock "in general" trying to improve upon you ET's. I have seen about one car break down every other time I have gone…some times it has been serious..other times it is not so serious. I have seen a whole wheel come off an old spitfire that was totally redone and have seen an M3 totally bust a transmission….then I have seen simple stuff like a blown shock/strut or a blown tire from improper inflation.
Modified by rsiwicki at 11:04 AM 1/3/2005

[sultan]

i autocrossed my Q on blown shocks (blacks), eibach springs, leaking tension rod bushings, stillen fstb, 235/45-17 pilot sport A/S on the front and huge 255/50-17 bfg kdws on the back. i was told it was a long course, on my best run i kept it in 1st the whole time, i think i bounced it off the rev limiter a couple times. i didn't know what class i was supposed to be in at the time, but they eventually let me run in F-Stock (not correct for my mods but it really didn't matter)

i thought the car handled pretty good but the stock seat is way too wide. i had to have one hand on the door to keep from sliding and did the whole course with one hand on the wheel, thank god for overboosted powersteering.

[rsiwicki]

F-stock is the correct class for an unmodified Q45 to run in.....

all the courses I have run take between 45 to 90 secs with most taking around 65 secs to complete. it sounds like you had a really tight course being able to leave it in first the whole time as 1-2 shift it at about 50mph. When I raced my Accord in Tallahassee, FL, the course was always extremely tight due to the limited space they had to work with...In Englishtown, NJ, the course was more open and free to stretch the legs a little more.

[redmanfx]

Red.....yes the WE network singles show did me in....Uggh!!!! I had a two separate girls recognize me from the show over new years...but not even a 12 pack of coronoa's could temp me to go with one of them...

YOU KNOW it hollywood.... Nice to hear from you. I'll be down in Atlanta Mid to late Feb or so with 450zxtt picking up some seats and converting my Q to some blues.... You should come up and see his monster 450... T-3 is around the corner to...

Autocrossing seems cool to me. How much of a rush is it at first? Jerking your car all over the place is the best way to find loose change!!!

red

[Mark86T]

I think you mean, "Because it would be funny to see the look on peoples face as a Land Barge Plows through the corners, missing every Apex" .

Just messin with ya. Don't you have to have some sort of safety equipment installed to go to the track?

You'd be surprised how nimble my big Q is. With the traction control off I can drift my Q around corners that it would normally push the nose through. But for autocrossing I have race tires to put on it to get it to stick MUCH better than street tires. My friends & I autocross to compete against each other & to have fun. Where else can you legally push your car this hard with no fear of hitting anyone or anything.(except some unfortunate cones) I have autocrossed for the past 6+ years here in Vegas & have seen few vehicles incur damage. It is great fun! I plan on taking out my Q one time only, just to compete against my friend in his 01 Maxima. Where else can you do that? (legally)

[PoorManQ45]

PMQ....unless your PVC speaker tubes are tied down there is noway they will let you run...the car has got to be solid mechanically with nothing that could even remotely interfer with the driver.

You have obviously been gone awhile man. I got rid of those PVC speaker tubes. Now it's SS Tubes, adds a little "bling bling" to the car as it's sitting dead in the driveway

[nissanforlife]

Sounds like a blast.. If i take mine out.. it would prob only be a few times.. if nothing else.. just to kill a few cones.. I really miss running at the auto-x.Let us know how it goes against the Maxima.

BTW: is it difficult to put on blues yourself? and would it be worth while to get lowering springs too or do those not make much difference?

and DANG.. the Q is in F-stock?.. holy crap.. who made THAT placement.. lol
Modified by nissanforlife at 3:27 AM 1/4/2005

[PoorManQ45]

and DANG.. the Q is in F-stock?.. holy crap.. who made THAT placement.. lol

What is F-Class? I would assume that the Q was placed there either because of its engine displacement, or its HP/TQ output.

[rsiwicki]

PMQ.....do a search on autocrossing and SCCA and you will find all your answers about autocrossing