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i just bought fenders and a hood for my s13 cuz mine are all jacked up. the new fenders have these really gay gt-r badges on them.. idle like to know as to how i should get them off w/o damaging the paint.. they are just glued on. maybe heating it up?


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Heat would work...good luck.

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ok, thats what i thought would be best.. after i heat it up should i just twist the emblem off or you thing i should get under there with a plastic razor blade?

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either finishing line or a thin credit card and a hair dryer

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ok guys... thanks alot. think i have all i need to get those things off..

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WI_240sx wrote:ok, thats what i thought would be best.. after i heat it up should i just twist the emblem off or you thing i should get under there with a plastic razor blade?
That FISHING line or a credit card. Dont use razor blade unless you dont like your paint.

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yeah... ill go with your guy's suggestions.. but plastic razors dont scratch paint.. they are actually designed to peel away stickers and whatnot on delicate surfaces.. they dont have a cutting edge

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Plastic razor blades are what i used to get my dealer stickers off.

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The proper way is to not be ghetto and use credit cards and razors.

You should use fishing line and goo gone/equivalent.

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haha.. goo gone would rip the clear coat right off.. its a highly volitle paint thinner..

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And heat it from the back side, if they are not installed yet.

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try heating it up then using either fishing line or waxed dental floss

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yeah, there not installed yet..

lol 240tt.. your avatar is the logo im trying to get off my fenders.. lol

its a cool insignia but it just has no business being on a 240

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WI_240sx wrote:haha.. goo gone would rip the clear coat right off.. its a highly volitle paint thinner..
Sounds like something a noob would say. That is completely wrong as long as you just wipe on and off. I have been using goo gone for years, on many different kinds of paint, and never had a problem with it being a "volitile paint thinner". They make an automotive formula and I have been using that for years.

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^^^Goo Gone is more along the line of being lighter fluid .

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Still been using it for years and have no issues. At least 10 years now I have been using it.

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Guitar picks work good as well. Just go to a paint supply shop and get a professional grade adhesive remover. They will direct in what wont remove your paint.

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the rectangular mirror base on my s14 is cracked! So how would one go about repairing it?

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Heat it up and use a piece of fishing line and work your way through it, and than use bug be gone and spray it on than use a towel or plastic razor blade and get the gunk off...

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Wd-40!!

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you can also get this stuff called bug and tar remover. i think "gunk" makes it. works wonders on the residue sound deadening leaves, so ide imaging it will take off and residue left behind fairly easy.

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when i take badges off ive always put a rag of some sort right next to the actual badge, you can work a screwdriver under the badge and it stays on the rag so your paint stays fine work your way under and eventually you can get ahold of the badge and pull it off by hand, after that you have the goo stuff just be careful and use some sort of alcohol on it. it takes time but after you get most of it off get soap and water and scrub whats left off. its always worked for me so i guess its an ok way to do it.

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blacksrjdm wrote:
Sounds like something a noob would say. That is completely wrong as long as you just wipe on and off. I have been using goo gone for years, on many different kinds of paint, and never had a problem with it being a "volitile paint thinner". They make an automotive formula and I have been using that for years.
im sorry, but did you just use the word noob in sentence? this isn't halo, its a nissan website.. don't insult my judgement in my own thread.. I've seen goo gone rip the coating right off wood floors.. I'm sorry but I would never use paint thinner or adhesive remover on my paint.. i live in wisconsin, its hard enough to keep my car the way it looks already.. we get more rain and snow than you can shake a stick at..

ill heat it up and get the emblem off with fishing line, then ill remove whats left with a plastic razor.. im sure a little elbow grease will do me just fine.. i just want to get the emblem off safely.. im not buying all these body parts to jack them up, considering they are flawless..

have more respect for people, give them advice, don't insult them

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Yes. This is one of the most respectfull and helpfull sites i have found.

If you want to be rude go to the vwvortex forums and go buy a rabbit.

All he wanted was a suggestion.

Not a backlash with an attitude.

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WI_240sx wrote:
im sorry, but did you just use the word noob in sentence? this isn't halo, its a nissan website.. don't insult my judgement in my own thread.. I've seen goo gone rip the coating right off wood floors.. I'm sorry but I would never use paint thinner or adhesive remover on my paint.. i live in wisconsin, its hard enough to keep my car the way it looks already.. we get more rain and snow than you can shake a stick at..

ill heat it up and get the emblem off with fishing line, then ill remove whats left with a plastic razor.. im sure a little elbow grease will do me just fine.. i just want to get the emblem off safely.. im not buying all these body parts to jack them up, considering they are flawless..

have more respect for people, give them advice, don't insult them
Typical...Look kid, I have been tuning cars and using goo gone on them for at least 10 years. I live right next to the ocean, so I know about the environment. U are 18 and trying to tell me that because goo gone ate the finish off of hardwood floors, that it isnt safe to use automotive grade goo gone on paint. Not to mention the bottle says right on it..."automotive grade". Its a citrus solvent. Idiot. I will insult anyone I'd like. I dont care whos thread it is. And this is in fact a Noob question soooooo. Noob, take the abuse and cry about it.

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blacksrjdm wrote:
Typical...Look kid, I have been tuning cars and using goo gone on them for at least 10 years. I live right next to the ocean, so I know about the environment. U are 18 and trying to tell me that because goo gone ate the finish off of hardwood floors, that it isnt safe to use automotive grade goo gone on paint. Not to mention the bottle says right on it..."automotive grade". Its a citrus solvent. Idiot. I will insult anyone I'd like. I dont care whos thread it is. And this is in fact a Noob question soooooo. Noob, take the abuse and cry about it.
its cuz of people like you that nico club has a bad rep.. im part of many other car websites and not one of them has anybody disrespecting or ripping on any one.. they are helpful and kind and do as much as humanly possible for the person to get them underway...

if you ask me you need to lighten up..

just cuz you are older than me doesnt mean s***.. sounds to me like your crying like a little baby cuz you told someone to do something and they said no, i dont want to do that. and now your having a 3 year old temper tantrum cuz your not getting your way.. go someplace esle cuz no one wants to deal with your ignorance.. i asked for help from someone and i ended up giving an english lesson..

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WI_240sx wrote:
its cuz of people like you that nico club has a bad rep.. im part of many other car websites and not one of them has anybody disrespecting or ripping on any one.. they are helpful and kind and do as much as humanly possible for the person to get them underway...

if you ask me you need to lighten up..

just cuz you are older than me doesnt mean s***.. sounds to me like your crying like a little baby cuz you told someone to do something and they said no, i dont want to do that. and now your having a 3 year old temper tantrum cuz your not getting your way.. go someplace esle cuz no one wants to deal with your ignorance.. i asked for help from someone and i ended up giving an english lesson..
Well, I didnt. And I was only explaining to you that this product is safe to use on automobile parts. There was no english lesson to learn here except that your typing is a good example of how not to type. Spelling things wrong etc... All I am saying is that there is no reason to think that goo gone which is used at detail shops and home garages around the world, will eat your paint. U still have the ignorent kid attitude with people. People on here have been dealing with me for a little longer than you, therefore, they will continue to. You have only proved that you are rather ignorent to question the quality of a solvent that has been around for a hell of a lot longer than even I have been tuning. A 67 year old man, that built street rods with custom paint etc. turned me on to the stuff years ago and he said he had been using it for as long as it has been around. U now sound like a real jerk telling me again to lighten up or whatever when you are making blastfamous statements about experience you dont have. I'm through with your ignorent inexperienced A**. I was if you look back trying to help, and you were the ignorent one that had to discredit goo gone. When you have no experience with it other than spilling it on laquer stained hardwood floors.

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I think he was just trying to say that he didnt want to use your method no matter how proven it is. there are other methods that work and he decided to use those.

The problem rises when you get so defensive.

It dosent matter how long youve been using your method or the fact that you were just trying to give information (with your best intentions i hope).

No arguement needed to come of this a simple :ok, well try this instead would have been perfect.

im not gonna tell you to lighten up, only if a person chooses another path. help them with that.

On that note... the heating of the fender.

What i would do is take it off (which it is already?) take a blow dryer and heat it from the back, then use a plastic razor blade to slowly jimmy it loose.

once off, (now back to what he was saying) even if you dont want to use goo gone, a little bit here does help to get the remnants off.

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It has nothing to do with the fact that he didnt use my method, what you think I am 6. Not to mention, that if my method doesnt work for you you dont have to make stuff up to try and be cool. Just disagree and say you dont like Goo Gone, no need to make the product seem harmful and act as if I was intending to damage your paint.
WI_240sx wrote:haha.. goo gone would rip the clear coat right off.. its a highly volitle paint thinner..
This is the statement that completely threw me for the loop and got me started. This just simply isnt true. The product is made to be used on automotive painted surfaces, inexperience shows in his statement. Was trying to straighten this out, but, seems that people have a bad opinion of Goo Gone on automotive paint. Honestly, taking emblems off is not this big of a deal. Peel off the emblem and either use some heat and your finger to rub off the glue, or get a solvent that removes said glue and take it off. I feel his comments to contest the Goo Gone are immature and simply not true.
Salem240 wrote:^^^Goo Gone is more along the line of being lighter fluid .


Also, Goo Gone is only combustable under very high heat and is not flammable. According to the bottle in my hand anyway, therefore it is also nothing like lighter fluid as it states further up. It is a citrus solvent, which means it uses natural ingredients to eat at the residue. Goo Gone is not as corrosive as people may be thinking. All I'm trying to get across is that I have extenxive experience with this product and have never experienced a situation where it was eating my paint or acting as a fire inhibitor, or as a paint stripper.

But as I see it, its ok to put a guy down for giving a time tested method to removing glue from auto paint, as long as you have no idea what your talking about. And its not ok for me to defend my statement and my methods even though people are putting me down like a person that has no clue what hes doing. Whatever, hope everything turns out alright and u dont ruin your fenders. So much for trying to help.

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I study very hard about my passions, and I have worked in the automotive field for 5 years, from little things from helping my neighbor change his mother's brakes to my experience in automotive shops. I've learned from the best as well. The high school I attended has one of the best automotive programs in the country, and have placed in the top 3 in automotive competitions in the U.S. If you believe in a product, and someone comes along and says I wouldn't use that, it's your god given right to back up that product, but to call the person you are talking to an inexperienced, stupid teenager at the same time is way uncalled for.

And in my opinion, as far as my grammar skills go, i believe they are in tip top shape.

I have one rule, do unto others as others do unto you. Show me respect and your highest level of courtesy and I assure you, I will show you the same level of respect with the highest intensity.


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