attention mr. meangreen

[ca18detgabby]

http://orlando.craigslist.org/pts/1479762311.html

[ILOVESILVIA(S13)]

Let me get this straight, he bought the car, then threw the motor on craigslist?

[ca18detgabby]

Let me get this straight, he bought the car, then threw the motor on craigslist?

for almost the asking price of the whole car when he bought I might add.

[DALAZ_68]

wait, so...wats the backrouund story? wat i miss

[rico05]

That is so failboat. What a turd.

[ragenasian]

there will be no part out. went to a good home, and someone who really wanted the CA18

I guess he didn't want the CA as bad as meangreen thought

[cdkilla]

Fail.

[The_Chosen_One]

Whats done is done, nothing he can do about it.

[MeanGreenS13]

its whatever. i guess the kid is pissed off because he took it to a tuning shop that ended up doing more bad than good... I drove it the other day... THERE IS something wrong... its noisy as hell, it has a knocking sound coming from it somewhere and he recently spiked it to 28psi... it was EXTREMELY poorly tuned. I'm pissed as hell about the whole deal right now... and they want to put a LS1/T56 in it...

sucks that my car will never see the potential it had because it was rushed into being finished.

as for the asking price... I think they added an extra 0...
Modified by MeanGreenS13 at 2:18 PM 11/26/2009

[The_Chosen_One]

Oh well, just get a subaru and you'll feel much better.

[bentvalves]

or get a lift kit for the Cobra and call it good

[float_6969]

Sorry, but I saw it coming.

[ca18detgabby]

Sorry, but I saw it coming.

still very sad

[mbmbmb23]

This is the exact reason I would never buy someone elses high HP built project motor/setup.....too many upgraded variables/unknown quantities.....to tune for.

If the kid cant get it tuned properly...he's better off selling it before he grenades it on a poor tune....get some money out of it and sell it to someone who knows CA's and how to tune the ECU it comes with.

[ca18detgabby]

This is the exact reason I would never buy someone elses high HP built project motor/setup.....too many upgraded variables/unknown quantities.....to tune for.

If the kid cant get it tuned properly...he's better off selling it before he grenades it on a poor tune....get some money out of it and sell it to someone who knows CA's and how to tune the ECU it comes with.

whats he going to do? sell it to Dee? maybe C-rad? Sean(NeedCAforS13)?

beyond that there are very few people in all of florida with a clue about a CA, let alone a high performance CA.

[mbmbmb23]

whats he going to do? sell it to Dee? maybe C-rad? Sean(NeedCAforS13)?

beyond that there are very few people in all of florida with a clue about a CA, let alone a high performance CA.

Personally if I were that kid I would find the most knowledgable tuner in the area....find out what software they specialize in...and switch over to that. If its Power FC....go for that....Megasquirt....go for that. I see the setup has Nistune. I have Nistune....yet.....I cant find anyone who "specializes" in it. There's a shop in TN that can tune it...but....who knows. To me, Nistune is good for people who plan on doing basic ROM tune upgrades over time but dont wanna remove the chip each time. For high level tuning I'd want something a bit more proven than Nistune. Im not saying this is the problem, but if you browse the Nistune chat boards you will see random issues constantly being patched and/or brought up in chat.

Who knows though, if MeanGreen couldnt get the bugs ironed out......I dont see some random kid and random tuner miraculously figuring it out....not without some serious trial and error. Id like to wish the buyer the best of luck.

[MeanGreenS13]

he toasted the motor. I f***ing told him OVER and OVER and OVER. its a s***ty tune, take it back and make them fix it!

when I sold him that car, it idled perfectly, cruised around at a 14.8 afr but I just had not adjusted to boost it.

after he made a WHOPPING 245whp at 15psi and I saw that car, I knew something was BAD wrong. it was Blowing BLACK smoke all over and his rear bumper was COVERED. it idled at 10.0 and boosted at 10.9

JAPTRIX had a major FAIL

ontop of that, GOOD OL NISSAN OEM PARTS!

when I put the motor together, I put a BRAND NEW sprocket on the crank for timing belt and BRAND new Idler and Tensioner Pulleys... even gave the kid my stack of reciepts from the build... The BRAND NEW tensioner pulley took a dump on him, and it jumped 2 teeth. didnt bend any valves, but when they got the head off to inspect, they found 2 chipped pistons (probably from detonation) and the tops of all 4 melted (from the poor tune assumingly)

I have no doubt in my mind that with proper tuning, the car would be perfectly fine other than the tensioner, which since it didnt hurt any valves, would have been a simple fix. (could have easily determined bent valves with the head still on the car by a leakdown test) In the 3 years I spent in the CA community, I learned one valueable thing that they apparently did not take with them when I passed it on... TUNING TUNING TUNING.

another thing I did notice about a week ago, they had me check the timing and it was at least 10 degrees advanced from stock. I again said to take it back to them but im sure it was too late, the damage was done.

I am severely disappointed and equally angry. But in the end.. better them than me. Im sorry that all of you are disappointed to see it happen, I know ryan gab and greg all thought this thing would kick some a** along with myself... guess thats what happens when you sell it to kids...

On the other hand... they want to stick WITH a ca after i talked to them some.. Dee, if you would sell one of your longblocks please pass on the information for it and a price to my email. I will foreward it to them

Phil

[The_Chosen_One]

I'm soooo happy I got out of the Tuning Scene. Lets go Biking man.

[MeanGreenS13]

when do you wanna meet up! haha

[boost_boy]

Personally if I were that kid I would find the most knowledgable tuner in the area....find out what software they specialize in...and switch over to that. If its Power FC....go for that....Megasquirt....go for that. I see the setup has Nistune. I have Nistune....yet.....I cant find anyone who "specializes" in it. There's a shop in TN that can tune it...but....who knows. To me, Nistune is good for people who plan on doing basic ROM tune upgrades over time but dont wanna remove the chip each time. For high level tuning I'd want something a bit more proven than Nistune. Im not saying this is the problem, but if you browse the Nistune chat boards you will see random issues constantly being patched and/or brought up in chat.

Who knows though, if MeanGreen couldnt get the bugs ironed out......I dont see some random kid and random tuner miraculously figuring it out....not without some serious trial and error. Id like to wish the buyer the best of luck.

The problem with tuning systems like Nistune is, you had better know what you're doing or at least have some idea or else you're in for a raunchy treat . I've had my years of melting pistons because of my own lack of knowledge and then melting pistons because of a certain Nissan tuning company in California in which I've spent good money with. Once I broke away from the newb way and used my own god given mind and experience, I can honestly say that I haven't blown a motor or screwed-up a customer's motor since 2001.

I mean I haven't been to a dyno in years with my wn whips, but I can truly say that I'm not desperate to go either. No widebands, no a/f ratio monitors, just tune off numbers and equipment used and pump from 15-25psi of boost under sustained fuel and the ride is sheer wickedness. Still would love to go to a dyno, but just too caught with other things and the fact that my fun cars are not billowing black smoke or doing all sorts of weird/gremlin-type tricks on me, either.

Chose a tuning system and chose it wisely. Make sure it's one that someone around the CA community has experience at tuning.

Dee

[MeanGreenS13]

Well, according to japtrix they knew how to tune a ca and since they "pre downloaded and inspected" nistune, they wouldnt have any problems with it... yet when the car arrived there... they spent 5 hours just trying to get it to work initially... i told them to take it back, NOT to drive it how it got tuned. Even told them to find another tuner to go to. no one listens to me tho.. like i said.. better them than me. Nistune is not bad, its just new. Tuning shops that SAY they know how to use it, and DONT, need to be shut down... its horrible that they spent $1600 on tuning only for it to be trash and destroy the motor.

[mbmbmb23]

Well, according to japtrix they knew how to tune a ca and since they "pre downloaded and inspected" nistune, they wouldnt have any problems with it... yet when the car arrived there... they spent 5 hours just trying to get it to work initially... i told them to take it back, NOT to drive it how it got tuned. Even told them to find another tuner to go to. no one listens to me tho.. like i said.. better them than me. Nistune is not bad, its just new. Tuning shops that SAY they know how to use it, and DONT, need to be shut down... its horrible that they spent $1600 on tuning only for it to be trash and destroy the motor.

For $1600 spent on tuning i would take them to small claims court. Gather up past dyno sheets and all email correspondence printed out between kid and tuner. Get an ASE certified mechanic/tuner to see the motor and previous dyno sheets and sign a notorized statement showing the tuners effed it. Ugh. Sucks.

[bentvalves]

poor car just needed a power FC installed and everything would have been prevented.

[boost_boy]

poor car just needed a power FC installed and everything would have been prevented.

It all comes to funds available. If you don't have the extra money to do it right the first time, leave everything stock until you can afford to get quality stuff. A powerFC is fine and all, but some people just don't have that powerFC budget and I respect that. But folks need to respect it as well and boost within their budgets. And even for some that can barely afford to put a pwerFC in their cars and then what? They can't tune it and don't have the funds to pay someone to tune it right which mostly results in a scrogged motor and a very pissed CA owner.

Case and point of money well spent, someone tried to steal my CA powered B13 sentra. They broke the driver's side window, beat-up the ignition and then lifted the hood to see what they can steal. Results: Car wouldn't crank because I programmed the engine management system not to let it rev past 500rpm, then locked the system. No quick, stealable parts under the hoods= a wasted trip. Unless you bring a tow truck, my cars are not moving from my yard without me allowing them to. The moral of this story is, for the extra added investment up front, the gains will justify the means in more ways than you could ever imagine. And lastly, if you don't have the loot to play with go-fast goodies, then you should work twards saving said loot for desired go-fast goodies.

Dee

[float_6969]

I have my intake manifold removed right now so my car can't be stolen. It works pretty well.

[MeanGreenS13]

sad thing is... this kid is f***ing LOOOOOOOOOOOOADDDDDDDDDEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.

the thing that upsets me the most is that as long as it took to get that car put together, was because i refused to buy cheap parts. The Nistune is a good system, there have been some very good results with it all over the nissan community. but a sketchy a** shop that tells you they can tune it... then takes 5 hours just to get it set up and figure out how to make the car idle... id have called it quits right there.

I built a good solid car, would have been perfect for the 16psi spring thats in the gate. probably should have made about 300-330whp and been very reliable and safe. Dee I took all the advice you gave me and used it. I just would rather at this point, have something stock and reliable in my life which is why i sold it. I dont know how else to tell anyone how meticulous i was about that car since no one has seen it in person really... It's a shame... a damn f***ing shame

[fender_dude]

Posted this on SFL so people will be aware before they go and buy it. Oh and don't worry Gabby we are taking care of your old car!

[The_Chosen_One]

Hey Phil



lol

[MeanGreenS13]

no ones gonna buy it now anyway, its torn down.

[ca18detgabby]

wow.......... crazy