Are they worth the hassle...

[vegeta_man111]

of ordering, paying a grand a month for about 2 years, making sure the righ tone is shipped and you arent T.F.'ed? I love skylines, you have no idea, but is it worth signing my life over just to have one? I have look at drifttuners.com as well as another site and the cheapest I have found is 13k shipped. WHy are these cheap compared to ones already in the states? Is it because we deal with the hassle of getting it here? And if that is the case, does that mean that we can turn around and sell one just bought and shipped here for a huge profit? Just wondering if the nice RHD beauty of a skyline is worth it, or is all the hype in the shell and i should just swap a RB into a 240sx. Want to hear everyone's thoughts. Please dont flame if you are gonna try and get me to buy one. thanks

[raremotive]

no they are not worth the hassle. not even the rb. It's all hype, the whole picture.

If you look at Nismo racing skylines and even the current GTR... they are not running the factory setup.. they run with the VK45DE. Because it's reliable. Also the NA low end torque allows better apex speeds.

You want whats smart...

swap a ls1. it's lighter and just as powerful.

You don't live in Japan, so part availability sucks for the rb. Not for the ls1.

And you will have more fun... then trying to constantly rebuild your rb.

[lloyd240sx]

no they are not worth the hassle. not even the rb. It's all hype, the whole picture.

If you look at Nismo racing skylines and even the current GTR... they are not running the factory setup.. they run with the VK45DE. Because it's reliable. Also the NA low end torque allows better apex speeds.

You want whats smart...

swap a ls1. it's lighter and just as powerful.

You don't live in Japan, so part availability sucks for the rb. Not for the ls1.

And you will have more fun... then trying to constantly rebuild your rb.

you obviously don't know what you are talking about. I have 2 r32 gtrs and am only 22 years old. I am not rich but with knowing a little bit about them, and some resources parts are very easy to get a hold of. If he swaps a rb in his 240 he is still in the same parts boat. I am glad I traded my s13 for the r32 I am currently building...

[USsil80]

you obviously don't know what you are talking about. I have 2 r32 gtrs and am only 22 years old. I am not rich but with knowing a little bit about them, and some resources parts are very easy to get a hold of. If he swaps a rb in his 240 he is still in the same parts boat. I am glad I traded my s13 for the r32 I am currently building...

well with the price you build a 800-900hp rb26 you could have twice as much horsepowerin a ls1/SBC... that is a fact.... but then again i don't like swapping a non-nissan motor in to a nissan or swapping any change of manufactures ... i say go rb .. NISSAN LOVE FTW

[raremotive]

you obviously don't know what you are talking about. I have 2 r32 gtrs and am only 22 years old. I am not rich but with knowing a little bit about them, and some resources parts are very easy to get a hold of. If he swaps a rb in his 240 he is still in the same parts boat. I am glad I traded my s13 for the r32 I am currently building...

I do and you will witness this in your future. Good luck.

[vegeta_man111]

so if you think i should go skyline, where is the best place to get them? Cause everywhere ive looked i can only get r33/34s from 96-98 legally. cheapest i have seen is a 18k stock r33.

and for the ls1 swap, you know how hard ls1 motors are to come by? my cousin drag races and had one but the cheapest he could go was 9k because it was built for 600hp before turbo.

[raremotive]

so if you think i should go skyline, where is the best place to get them? Cause everywhere ive looked i can only get r33/34s from 96-98 legally. cheapest i have seen is a 18k stock r33.

and for the ls1 swap, you know how hard ls1 motors are to come by? my cousin drag races and had one but the cheapest he could go was 9k because it was built for 600hp before turbo.

not as hard as you say. A lot easier than getting a RB motor.

[SullivanRacing06]

wow another thread bashing on rb26s hu?

sorry but id say for a motor under 3.0l its pretty impressive, mine made 450+ on stock injectors, stock mafs n stock ecu w no piggy back

[the.crowing]

of ordering, paying a grand a month for about 2 years, making sure the righ tone is shipped and you arent T.F.'ed? I love skylines, you have no idea, but is it worth signing my life over just to have one? I have look at drifttuners.com as well as another site and the cheapest I have found is 13k shipped. WHy are these cheap compared to ones already in the states? Is it because we deal with the hassle of getting it here? And if that is the case, does that mean that we can turn around and sell one just bought and shipped here for a huge profit? Just wondering if the nice RHD beauty of a skyline is worth it, or is all the hype in the shell and i should just swap a RB into a 240sx. Want to hear everyone's thoughts. Please dont flame if you are gonna try and get me to buy one. thanks

I personally love my R32 GTR. "Its all hype," Whatever says me. When I was given the opportunity to purchase one I jumped on it and never looked back, straight up sold my STi for it. "Unreliable"? Not a chance, mines is sneaking up on 18 years old and still running strong! Ive had more fun with this R32 in the 2 years ive owned it and I plan on having plenty more. People can knock on them all they want but It comes down to personal opinion, I love them, so I bought one. Getting them plated is tough I wont lie, but if you can pull it off then do. But if you do be warned! People will be crawling in your windows man! lol. When it comes to parts for the car, they're not impossible to find, you just have to know where to look. I say if you enjoy the R series Skylines that go to the GTROC forums, people are cooler there any who. The name of this forum is Nissan Infinity Car Owners club no? maybe I was mistaken, oh well.

[the.crowing]

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well with the price you build a 800-900hp rb26 you could have twice as much horsepowerin a ls1/SBC... that is a fact.... but then again i don't like swapping a non-nissan motor in to a nissan or swapping any change of manufactures ... i say go rb .. NISSAN LOVE FTW

THAT A BOY! lol BNR32 FTMFW

[the.crowing]

you obviously don't know what you are talking about. I have 2 r32 gtrs and am only 22 years old. I am not rich but with knowing a little bit about them, and some resources parts are very easy to get a hold of. If he swaps a rb in his 240 he is still in the same parts boat. I am glad I traded my s13 for the r32 I am currently building...

THAT A BOY! lol BNR32 FTMFW X2

[SullivanRacing06]

thank god , someone else that likes the 26!

[the.crowing]

thank god , someone else that likes the 26!

I love this car. Never did like the 32, but as soon as i saw it in real life, it was a whole different feeling. Ill be burried in this car lol, a big twin-turbo coffin.

[akwikz]

no they are not worth the hassle. not even the rb. It's all hype, the whole picture.

If you look at Nismo racing skylines and even the current GTR... they are not running the factory setup.. they run with the VK45DE. Because it's reliable. Also the NA low end torque allows better apex speeds.

You want whats smart...

swap a ls1. it's lighter and just as powerful.

You don't live in Japan, so part availability sucks for the rb. Not for the ls1.

And you will have more fun... then trying to constantly rebuild your rb.

Pretty funny stuff here. First, let's adress the claim of the racing Skylines using V8's. This is only true with the cars since 2002 roughly. And do you know why this is? Because the RB was to be discontinued. You don't race a drivetrain you plan to phase out, now do you.

As for the parts availability, this isn't 1996. RB parts can be had from over 100 suppliers and can be had by American hands in less than 1 week. I've had to wait for parts for my 1992 Hardbody from Kragen longer than that.

Also, the mention of an LS1 being cheaper to build for crazy horsepower is false. Any engine built to run 900hp is going to be expensive. And it's not really that easy to build this kind of motor. Lingenfelter, Hennessey, Shelby, Saleen, etc are some of the biggest names in American V8 builds and I've only seen 2 exceed 1000hp in street trim. Not that others have not done it, but I trust big name tuners to get the most authentic and reliable numbers out of cars. And unless you've been under a rock for the last 10 years, you know that there are many, many, many GT-Rs and Supras running around on Japanese and American roads with over 1000hp too. So really your argument of easier, cheaper hp from an LS1 has been blown out of the water.

Now, before you get all uppity, let's compare apples to apples. The RB series is from the 90's, technically the '80's. A proper comparison would be the LT series of the same era. A comparo with a VR38 would be more appropriate with the LS. Yes the LS is a good motor. But all this dissing of the RB needs to stop. Let's look at a few facts.

The R32 GT-R with the RB26dett was so dominant in racing that organizing bodies first tried to level the field by adding ballast to the cars, then by limiting boost. Neither slowed the dominance. So the car was flat out banned from racing in Europe. In Japan, the cars were no longer allowed either and were forced to race in their own "All Skyline" class. In Australia the manufacturers of the competition, Ford and Holden (GM subsidiary), could not compete so they successfully convinced (brided), cough, the governing body to convert the series into the V8 Supercar Series. As the GT-R runs an inline 6 it no longer fit the regulations. So, in essence, every competitor of the GT-R was so incapable of competing with the Skyline and it's RB26 that the only way to make things "fair" for them was to deny the Skyline to even enter the race.

So, when people ask "Is it worth it? Is the hype real?" The answer is HELL YES!

Brian

[the.crowing]

Pretty funny stuff here. First, let's adress the claim of the racing Skylines using V8's. This is only true with the cars since 2002 roughly. And do you know why this is? Because the RB was to be discontinued. You don't race a drivetrain you plan to phase out, now do you.

As for the parts availability, this isn't 1996. RB parts can be had from over 100 suppliers and can be had by American hands in less than 1 week. I've had to wait for parts for my 1992 Hardbody from Kragen longer than that.

Also, the mention of an LS1 being cheaper to build for crazy horsepower is false. Any engine built to run 900hp is going to be expensive. And it's not really that easy to build this kind of motor. Lingenfelter, Hennessey, Shelby, Saleen, etc are some of the biggest names in American V8 builds and I've only seen 2 exceed 1000hp in street trim. Not that others have not done it, but I trust big name tuners to get the most authentic and reliable numbers out of cars. And unless you've been under a rock for the last 10 years, you know that there are many, many, many GT-Rs and Supras running around on Japanese and American roads with over 1000hp too. So really your argument of easier, cheaper hp from an LS1 has been blown out of the water.

Now, before you get all uppity, let's compare apples to apples. The RB series is from the 90's, technically the '80's. A proper comparison would be the LT series of the same era. A comparo with a VR38 would be more appropriate with the LS. Yes the LS is a good motor. But all this dissing of the RB needs to stop. Let's look at a few facts.

The R32 GT-R with the RB26dett was so dominant in racing that organizing bodies first tried to level the field by adding ballast to the cars, then by limiting boost. Neither slowed the dominance. So the car was flat out banned from racing in Europe. In Japan, the cars were no longer allowed either and were forced to race in their own "All Skyline" class. In Australia the manufacturers of the competition, Ford and Holden (GM subsidiary), could not compete so they successfully convinced (brided), cough, the governing body to convert the series into the V8 Supercar Series. As the GT-R runs an inline 6 it no longer fit the regulations. So, in essence, every competitor of the GT-R was so incapable of competing with the Skyline and it's RB26 that the only way to make things "fair" for them was to deny the Skyline to even enter the race.

So, when people ask "Is it worth it? Is the hype real?" The answer is HELL YES!

Brian

Couldnt have said it better myself, very knowledgable.

[themadscientist]

wow another thread bashing on rb26s hu?

sorry but id say for a motor under 3.0l its pretty impressive, mine made 450+ on stock injectors, stock mafs n stock ecu w no piggy back

You are not making 450hp on 6 444cc injectors.

[SullivanRacing06]

but with 6 more 444cc under the intake manfold controlled by a v 3.0 m/s i am

[gismonismo]

I don't know but The gtr is the godzilla yeah you can do conversions on S chasis but there far from the gtr.theres no way you can compare schasis cars with gtrs.AWDweight distribu.Chasis stiffnesSuspensionyou name it.Full race tryed to bring a new concept by adding the AWD to the s chasisI followed it up and it turn out that the car wasn't stable enough to autocross.Schasis where never top research for nissan.and have never gotten anywhere execpt drag and drift.Thats just fact.gtrs are not only one of the best engine but one of the most balanced from factory cars in the world.But if you want a gtr so bad Trade your car manbut you will still need to bring some cash I don't think no one has ever sold a 240 for more then 35k in this fcking world no matter what you have put in the car.

I think you should get one itll take you no more then a week to get use to the right hand drive sht.Reading this post about worth or not makes me wonder why you asking to guys that have no idea whats a gtr and some that has research this car only in fcking laptops and still have no clue how it feels to be in japans pride joy.wtf?catch a ride in one you fcking computer freaks.offer your girl for one night if you have to but don't post sht about knowing......sht later

[wagzilla260rs]

I love my gtr runs nice and about the motor I have built both and depending on the parts they can both be expencive...and time consuming....I love all cars that run good I just love the GTR more!!!!!

[themadscientist]

The RB26 is a very powerful motor but I would rather have a 2JZ.

My buddy had about 600hp in an RB26 loaded into a hatch and all it did was spin tires. He did suck at driving though.

[gismonismo]

And wtf you think a tuned 600hp+ supra will do?AWD is the answer of Gods then switch torque to RWD after 3rd and theres no one catching you.No matter what power you make on a GTR your going foward that I know for sure.

[themadscientist]

beat the GT-R by 3 hundreths of a second. http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=0is9b8QKv3M

And please notice that it's not even a J, it's a measly 450hp 3S

Exactly how do you fit both of the GT-R's nuts in your mouth?4WD is advantageous but to act as if a car must have it to be fast is stunningly ignorant.

Notice I made no mention of a Supra, just the 2JZ. I prefer the old wedge Supra over the beached whale last gen. The J IMO is the tougher motor. From the full counter aftermarket cranks, the magic exploing oil pump, weird cooling mods and on down the line the RB is nice but far from the ultimate engine. I have seen too many freinds sink way too much money into their GT-Rs only to have them down 75% of the time.I have been in Japan for 15 years and have chosen not to purchase a GT-R based on the exhorbident expense of fixing it when it breaks and the stunning frequency in which it does so.

[gismonismo]

I like flowers and tea parties and dancing around with glee. Please, won't someone spank my little fanny?

[themadscientist]

what used to be up there before the mean old mod had a bit of fun.

well the fruit cake got jokes ah?Talking that gay sht about nuts and sht.lol.I guess being a modirator has its advant...ah?I plan to build a 2jz soon sc300.just love the looks.lol heres the evidence go to youtube.lol.fcking Fgget

Modified by gismonismo at 9:43 PM 1/6/2009

*yawn*

Nothing to do with being a mod, everything to do with having a better argument than you. Step up your game or fade into the background, grown-ups are talking.

Oh goshers, I am forever emotionally damaged because a disembodied name on a forum thinks he has been wronged and called me a naughty name. going straight to ad hominim just reveals you have nothing left on the shelf. To admit such would be honorable, to just throw insults in an attempt at retort just pulls you down from unfortunate to pathetic. That means I need to go from debating you as an equal to pulling your chain for my personal amusement. How do want proceed from here?

[gismonismo]

never mind your just a waist of time fruitcake

[raremotive]

never mind your just a waist of time fruitcake

Your *** handed to you. Give up so easy?

Fruit cake? Lack a sense of class and run around calling those who disagree with you a fruitcake.

[themadscientist]

never mind your just a waist of time fruitcake

your = possessiveyou're = contraction of "you are"

waist = midsection of the bodywaste = your presence here

fruitcake = all you deserve for christmas.

Just remember when you are screaming at your screen in the following weeks before you eventually skulk away in disgust muttering "fruitcake", which seems to be the sum total of your vernacular, you chose this path.

[gismonismo]

you diss and then turn into polite just to make me look bad lol.cheap psychology lol.your pathetic and a waist of time so...byebye little birdie.Can't Ban Me lol.

[themadscientist]

You make you look bad guy. Between your foul mouth, atrocious spelling and routinely incoherent posts, YOU make you look bad. If I apply any level of carrot and stick tricks to you it would be on par with thumping the dog on the nose when he pees on the carpet. I would prefer you just figure out how to behave but since you won't I guess I will just have to make your byebye permanent.

[Gold Digger]

And wtf you think a tuned 600hp+ supra will do?AWD is the answer of Gods then switch torque to RWD after 3rd and theres no one catching you.No matter what power you make on a GTR your going foward that I know for sure.

By the way, chief. It's not full time AWD anyway. It's computer controlled and usually is only active during take offs and super hard acceleration.

By the time you're in third gear, unless it's rainy or snowy out, you won't need AWD and the ATESSA E-TS system has alread deactivated the front.