Are These Costs For Repairing A 1995 Q45 Reasonable?

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brx1
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Car: Q45 1995
Location: New Orleans to DC in Spring 2014

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Hello from a Noob:

I have been smelling some burning oil for almost a year. Rarely saw smoke from under the hood (twice-and once only after lifting hood up). Smells bad for a few miles, gets less smelly, never goes away. Local mechanic in New Orleans did not feel comfy doing a big engine job on this model car. At least he is honest!!!

(FWIW: I bought the car used in late 2008 with ~56k miles. Only about 78k miles now. I do not drive much here.
I am getting ready to move to the other LA as well. Not sure if I will put the car on a trailer or drive out west yet-they are paying for my move. It also needs about $600-1000 in body work - nasty feeling roof paint, door dings, big bumper/paint scrapes and a small missing turn light. I think spending 2-3K on the car is worth it, as it still drives and feels great otherwise. Yes, there are some still minor seat leather issues, etc., but after fix up the car should be almost like new. And way less expensive than buying a new one.)

Took it to the local dealer, where I had a mildly bad experience before Hurricane Katrina.

1. Valve cover gasket: 744.56 (parts and labor) plus tax, I told them to go ahead and do it. This was the suspected cause of my "burning oil" smell. I think it was hitting the ?manifold?
Local mechanic said to let them do it.

2. I told the dealer to put in new spark plugs too: 275 (p&l) plus tax, based on comments on this forum and other hints. Service mgr thought this was a good call on my part as he said oil can get to the plugs too. Never heard of that before though. He had not previously suggested doing the plugs too. My local mechanic had no comment on this.

So I gave my consent to have the above done, hopefully to be finished by tonight.
I presume the pricing is "reasonable". Not much choice locally anyhow.

They also inspect the car when they check it out for my original issue and noted some other issues. These are how the following items got noted. I never noted any problems with them. But then again, I am not sure you would note a problem, unless a "tire fell off", etc....

As for items 3-6, my main Qs are on items 5 and 6, as I really do not understand what they do, in layperson terminology. Dealer needed to order parts for all of these anyway, presumably to fix these next week, so no rush.

3. Drivers side rack boot is torn: 122.24 (p&l) plus tax. Do I understand it's purpose/importance? Well, sort of, but not really. ?keeps lube on rack (and what is a rack?)

4. Front brakes and ?remachine? rotors, ??no pads??: 249.95. My local mechanic said the parts alone would be 200, plus almost 100 in labor. I don't understand why "no pads" (assuming I understood the service mgr properly), my mechanic said to let the dealer do the rack boot and brakes and that these prices were good. Gee, a dealer charging less than the local guy. Seems to good to be true. Anyone else have any comments re: dealer prices for things like these?

5. Upper link (bad due to wear and tear/age). ?Front ?rear 621.40 for the pair (p&l) plus tax.
I think pair means right and left not front vs rear. He only had 1 in stock, the left one.

I have no idea what it's purpose is. I saw some comments about bushings ?8 in all at $20 each. $160 plus some labor seems a lot less than 621.40. Help-please....

6. Tension rod, passenger side: 271.20 (p&l) plus tax. Again, I am beyond clueless here per what it is, what it does and pricing.

Someone commented that 5 and 6 need to be replaced on ?newer Qs every 60,000 miles. Not sure why though.

I think I will get the brakes done next week. Kinda need to understand the problems before spending another 1K on stuff.


Thanks in advance for any comments/assistance from this noob who loves his old car.

Also, come visit New Orleans. Weather is great now. The food, the music......
What happens in NOLA stays in NOLA (if you bribe the cop the right amount)....

:) :) :)


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lino
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I don't know how much labor is involved for what they work you need done, but I'm sure some of the other members will let you know.

What I can help you with is the price on the parts you need.

Most members buy their parts from I.O.S. (Infiniti of Scottsdale) because of their great prices. You can ask for George if you call. Here's a link to their website:

http://www.infinitipartsusa.com/partloc ... &year=2007

Here is a list of the parts you have listed and their prices. Use this as a guideline only. Some of the part numbers for your car may be different. I don't have your VIN or know the specific trim level of your car to be certain which part numbers do pertain to your car.

Valve Cover Gasket
Part Number: 13270-67U00 (Right Hand)
Part Number: 13270-67U10 (Left Hand)
List Price is $21.48 each
I.O.S. Price is $16.11 each

Spark Plugs
List Price is $10.53 each
I.O.S. Price is $7.90 each

* You have 3 choices of spark plugs:

Part Number: 22401-1P115 (Specification:PFR5G-11) Hot type
Part Number: 22401-1P116 (Specification:PFR6G-11) Standard type
Part Number: 22401-1P117 (Specification:PFR7G-11) Cold type

3. Boot Kit - Power Steering Gear
Part Number: 48203-27C26
List Price is $31.87 each
I.O.S. Price is $23.90 each

4. Front Rotor
Part Number: 40206AG020
List Price is $119.78 each
I.O.S. Price is $89.84 each

Front Pads
Part Number: 41060-64U92
List Price is $102.22 each
I.O.S. Price is $76.66 each

5. Upper Link
Part Number: 54524-66U20 (Right Hand)
Part Number: 54525-66U20 (Left Hand)
List Price is $162.67 each
I.O.S. Price is $122.00 each

(* 8 bushings in all at $20 each) I don't know which ones they are.

6. Tension Rod
Part Number: 54468-60U00
List Price is $183.08 each
I.O.S. Price is $137.31 each

brx1
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I thank you for the part costs. You made a significant effort to do this. I have ordered multiple parts from Scottsdale over the years including:

the temperature circuit board that sits behind the glove box
door window regulator
some gas tank and maybe some fuel pump parts
90 mm air intake plastic part and flow probe - put that in on my own !!
other stuff that I cannot remember (Due to the "old" timers disease)

They have always been nice over the phone and stuff has always arrived in good shape.

However, as my auto skills are limited to changing filters and bulbs, I need a mechanic to do the rest. Here, I do not know the customary or expected labor costs. In that light the parts cost list you provided will help others more than me. The local guy says he charges about $80/hr for labor, but gives me lots of leeway. He said the dealer may charge $110/hr.

I still have to fix the rear speakers, which have not worked in yrs. I think the mini amps are out. No biggie, as I might go 6 months without even turning the radio on. One advantage of a short commute here.

In general, the things on the car that die over time are usually well discussed in the forum here. Folks like me are deeply greatful for all of your comments. I have shared many printouts with my local mechanic too.

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goody90q45
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brx1 wrote:5. Upper link (bad due to wear and tear/age). ?Front ?rear 621.40 for the pair (p&l) plus tax.
I think pair means right and left not front vs rear. He only had 1 in stock, the left one.

I have no idea what it's purpose is. I saw some comments about bushings 8 in all at $20 each. $160 plus some labor seems a lot less than 621.40. Help-please....

6. Tension rod, passenger side: 271.20 (p&l) plus tax. Again, I am beyond clueless here per what it is, what it does and pricing.

Someone commented that 5 and 6 need to be replaced on ?newer Qs every 60,000 miles. Not sure why though........
The bushings are for the front sway bar. About the same price for the rear if you have an active or T rear sway bar.

I could be backwards on this but the upper link controls the camber and the tension rod controls the toe. The upper link wear cannot be adjusted with an alignment so while it's out of spec your new tires are wearing out on the inside to the chord as you drive cross-country. The tension rod and the upper link each cost as much as a new tire so you're broke if you replace all 4 pieces in the front suspension and your broke buying tires again if you drive on doing nothing.

Your mechanic's prices seem fair on 1-4 and a bit high on 5-6. I did my upper links at home in about an hour apiece and I was an inexperienced old f*art at the time. He should be in the 2-3 hour range plus $120 x 2 for parts. I don't think the tension rod is much more difficult and 2-3 hours would be fair for both. Add another hour for bushing replacement on each sway bar. None of these are rocket science and should be very straight forward for a mechanic with a few years of experience.

I could have used a jump start in Slidell two weekends ago. I left the lights on in the rental car (M35) while eating dinner and came out to a dead battery. I was working outdoors at Stennis for a few days. It was very hot and humid but the lightning alerts provided plenty of indoor breaks. I'll be back before Christmas.

brx1
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Car: Q45 1995
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They ran into a problem on Friday. After doing the main engine work for the valve cover gaskets and spark plugs, there was a leak from the Throttle Body Gasket. I saw the car on Saturday, but never saw the latter gasket, nor the leak, etc. No idea what the cost to fix it will be. I suspect the cost will mostly be labor. I told them to go ahead and do the front brakes/rotors and drivers side rack boot.

I discuss the tires, tension rod (cracked and leaking bushing) and upper link issues in another posting about Q45 tires. I saw their pricing on the links: just under $200 each, plus labor. So your prices were great. However, I need someone to do the labor.

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lino
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Be sure to post a detailed breakdown of the parts and service when the car's done.

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The throttle body gasket, assuming you don't have traction control, is a 20 minute fix hood up to hood down. It should be replaced any time the throttle body is removed.

It wouldn't hurt to ask how much your shop would charge to install your parts, then run the numbers both ways. All shops work on a profit margin that is a combination of parts markup + labor charges, but sometimes they will cut you a break when you bring your own since they don't have to take the time to order, pay for, and pick them up.

Heath


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