are stock speakers amplified???

[sxxy1992]

Does anybody know if the stock speakers on a 92-94 vert would be amplified or not? I am thinking of buying a bose system but the seller said I need to have amplified speakers or the sound would be very weak. Any audiophiles out there???? thanks in advance. sxxy1992

[slownslurious]

cars with bose systems were amplified at the speakers (little circuit boards built into the plastic speaker housings). The rear speakers on the vert don't have those housings so I dont know where they would be on a vert. They are easily identified by the "premium sound" badges on the speaker grilles on the doors. No vert that I have seen yet has had a bose system, but I wouldn't rule it out.

On non bose systems its just a regular powered head unit.

[nissanconvert]

The convertibles are not amped, it was never an option. The wires to the speakers come straight from the head unit. Are you buying used factory bose system i take it? My personal suggestion would be to start new from crutchfield. Speakers have come quite a way in the last 15years since the 240 bose system came out. Properly matched speakers and a head unit can go far on your dollar.

[slownslurious]

oh and also for the record, with the 240sx bose system for some reason you can cut out the amplifier and run the output of the head unit right into a 4 ohm speaker and it sounds acceptable. I know cause I've done it.But yeah if youre spending more than... well, more than free ... lol just get an aftermarket one. I'm sure the cheap ones will all be on the door busters list at every electronics store this friday. prolly can pick up a base model sony or pioneer for $60-90

[sxxy1992]

are you suggesting I buy a new crutchfield stereo and speakers instead of Bose system? Or I should invest in crutchfield amplified speakers that are matched to the Bose system I plan to buy? My vert 92 is stock and the Bose system is out of a 95 or 96 Nissan 300zx, I believe. Am I able to just buy some amped speakers from someone and install them in place of the stock ones and it would would work?? I am new to this sort of thing. thanks.

[sxxy1992]

do crutchfield speakers just have 2 wires coming to them like all the speakers I remember from years ago? Or 3 or 4 or what? I'm assuming my car has 2 wires coming to each speaker. If I put in new amped speakers, I could use these same stock wires and just hook up the new speaker and it works?? I am long lost in the past, I guess. ha! But I know good sound when it happens.

[positron1]

cars with bose systems were amplified at the speakers (little circuit boards built into the plastic speaker housings). The rear speakers on the vert don't have those housings so I dont know where they would be on a vert. They are easily identified by the "premium sound" badges on the speaker grilles on the doors. No vert that I have seen yet has had a bose system, but I wouldn't rule it out.

On non bose systems its just a regular powered head unit.

Do you mean the grille covers that say "active speaker" on them? What exactly does that indicate?

[biggie]

Do you mean the grille covers that say "active speaker" on them? What exactly does that indicate?

"Active Speaker" means the speakers have an amp. It was on the SE coupes and hatchs, not on verts.

[cmkelly]

Just my suggestion....scrap the Bose option and go and buy new speakers and head unit (CD or Tape/power amp combo) I had the Bose system with "Active Speakers" in my Infiniti M30 convert and it was fine but the newer stereos offer so much more flexibility like subwoofer out, 4volt preamps out, better MOSFET power, newer cooler looking hatervision....

One's stereo is a personal thing but you're in a convertible...i.e. you'll need lots of power to push any speakers. The best option (money no object) is a separate amp, head unit, subwoofer and component speakers. But new 2-way and 3-way speakers with plenty of power will also do the trick nicely.

Good luck and Happy Holidays!

[sxxy1992]

"the newer stereos offer so much more flexibility like subwoofer out, 4volt preamps out, better MOSFET power, newer cooler looking hatervision"

man, all that stuff just goes over my head. And the "hater"vision, is that like evil stuff coming out of the speakers?? Just kidding. Thought it would be a nice change to go to a Bose but if it's just going to involve changing all sorts of things, I just may opt to get a cheap cd player and replace the am/fm/cassette and use the existing speakers. Not wanting to change the whole car. Know what I mean?? I got tired of cars that kids had gotten to and chopped and slashed so much add on stuff that you don't know what really goes where anymore. thanks for the input.

[nissanconvert]

All speakers have only 2 wires as far as I know. it an engineering principal, a signal feed and ground. More wires might be for component systems with seperated speakers in the same frame, ie. tweeter and mid range with seperate feed lines from an amp to keep the signal in the proper range of the speaker for best performance.

Crutchfield.com is just a retailer of many different speakers and the sort.

"Or I should invest in crutchfield amplified speakers that are matched to the Bose system I plan to buy? "Speakers are not "amplified" by themselves.Amps merely increase power to a speaker and allow it to play louder.All head units, including the one in your vert have amps built in even the one that power the bose systems in their respective cars.

From what I understand, the amps on the bose system are added onto the system between the headunit and the speakers.

Speakers have power ratings and operate optimally around these ranges.Stock head units give optimal power for stock speakers, but underpower ones that can take more like the bose system. Thus why the bose will sound bad without their amp, or one in the right power range.

My suggestion was to get a new head unit and speakers instead of messing with older ones unless its a really good price or you really want them.There are many good options in the stereo aftermarket that would likely outperform the bose system.

Good luck and be sure to let us know how it goes!

[slownslurious]

the bose system won't have "2 wires" for each speaker, it will have a minimum of 4 I think they have more if I recall correctly. it needs to have positive signal, negative signal, positive power, negative power, and I think they have a turn on lead and some other **** as well.

regardless, if you WERE going to swap in a bose you would want to get the speakers that came with the head unit. The Z speakers won't fit the vert. They are a pain to bypass. The bose headunits suck anyway.

Just trust us on this one, buy the entry level pioneer or sony, they are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the factory bose crap from the early 90's in features and performance. You don't have to understand all the technical crap, just let me say it this way: You will get good FM reception, great CD playback, you can have a remote control or an IPOD input, detachable face for safety, expandability if you ever want to add components, and it will have enough power to rock some door speakers loud enough to hear over the windnoise.

The factory stuff is pretty "meh" in all aspects.

Crutchfield is a great idea you can tell them what you have and they will give you the plug in adaptors for your speakers AND your headunit. for a beginner its the next best thing to taking it to an electronics store and letting them do it. You will pay more than if you buy the components on ebay and install them for yourself, but for someone at your level of understanding it may be the best choice to let crutchfield do it. And they have excellent tech support over the phone.

or another option check out forums like http://www.elitecaraudio.com ... read up on stuff before you buy anything.

[sxxy1992]

ok, I am convinced. will just go with an aftermarket unit and not have to mess with all that other stuff. sounds like the guy won't honor a return if it's doa anyway, so would be buying a pig in a poke anyway. I will spend some time on the forums and get something picked out. thahks for all the help.