Apexi vs. Greddy

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well i finally got sum money saved up and i would like to know which one yall would choose. Greddy DD or the apexi n1 or apexi dual n1? ive heard nothing but good things about these exhausts so which one would you choose?


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They are both quality peices, it comes down to what looks best to you.

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why do you choose a dual exit exhaust? pieces with dual exit are nothing but show. There is no point to having an exhaust pipe Y into 2 more pipes, all this does is create turbulence and add excess metal to weigh your car down.

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i have the n1 dual and i love it.. all my friends say it sounds good when i am on it.. that is my opion ..but both of them are qualitly products

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chmercer wrote:why do you choose a dual exit exhaust? pieces with dual exit are nothing but show. There is no point to having an exhaust pipe Y into 2 more pipes, all this does is create turbulence and add excess metal to weigh your car down.
now from the apex site:The use of smaller piping diameter helps retain more mid-range torque. The Dual N-1 does not sacrifice peak horsepower because the dual pipes can handle more exhaust gas volume.

to keep ur torque and still get more hp

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well if he is boosting bigger is better.

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i plan on boosting within the next year or two. i just want to get the exhaust thing out of the way and of course to pamper the car a little. hee hee. but nonetheless, if i was to get the single tip, it would b between the apexi n1 (due to its low price) and blitz nur spec. any comments on those? also any opinions on the greddy dd?

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s14a wrote:now from the apex site:The use of smaller piping diameter helps retain more mid-range torque. The Dual N-1 does not sacrifice peak horsepower because the dual pipes can handle more exhaust gas volume.

to keep ur torque and still get more hp


Hmm, it's interesting they claim that. The continuity equation for fluids(primarily liquids, but I think it will work in this example with gas) is: V1A1=V2A2. It states that the velocity of fluid is proportional to the size of the tube it's in. The Dual N-1 has small pipes, but there are 2 instead of 1, so their cross section area can be half as much per pipe. You can't increase the flow of gas and decrease the area...they're proportional.

I think they're B.S.ing people.

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the N1 is all one piece hence the high shipping costs. I see their shipping prices around 100. The nur spec is a very good exhaust, just that it's cost is a bit high and is too loud for some. I've taken a look at the greddy dd, it's a very low profile exhaust so you won't really have to worry too much about the scraping of the canister like the n1 or the nur. However, you would have to worry about the mid section of the exhaust as the muffler section and the 3" piping are all located at the middle. If you've got eibach sportlines on tokico's you'll have some trouble going down some steeper driveways and run the risk of scraping the muffler section pretty badly.

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get the apex n1 for its 'cheapness' and then keep your stock muffler on for the sleeper look and htat way you won't trash your muffler on the curbs. just a thought

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well the shipping isnt an issue since im nearby enjuku racing. as for the scraping thing, i didnt consider that. i have a 2.2 drop in the front and 1.2 in the rear. is the blitz louder than the n1 tho? also is the blitz also 3" and is the apexi 3"?

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s14a wrote:now from the apex site:The use of smaller piping diameter helps retain more mid-range torque. The Dual N-1 does not sacrifice peak horsepower because the dual pipes can handle more exhaust gas volume.

to keep ur torque and still get more hp


Never thought about it like that...Ever consider JIC? I don't know much about them but the price is right...

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i agree forget the dual but anyways i say greddy

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I'm guessing you've got sportlines? Yes, you should scrape going down some steeper driveways. You'll scrape in different areas though, with the N1 you'll scrape at the canister and around the cat, versus the greddy dd where you'll scrape at the muffler section and the cat. The nur will be about the same scrapage as the N1.

The N1 dual is like what 25-30 lbs? That's pretty heavy stuff compared to the 15-20 lbs for N1 styled exhausts. The JIC is all modular and stainless. Install is a breeze, but I'd pass it up just because it's pretty easily stolen too. However, it's a good quality exhaust and if you're not too concerned about theft, then it should be one of the better ones to consider.

Also, yes the N1 is quiet by all standards compared to the Nur which is a not as loud as the JIC SUS Bullet. They do sound very good though.

Ever consider looking into the Yashio Factory exhaust? They sound better than any of the above from my experience and not quite as expensive as the JIC or the Nur. Might want to give that a shot.

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Well, forget getting the DD for an S14 cuz they are no longer available. Short supply for the s13 too. Greddy is discontinuing the line and there isnt any answer if they are coming out with a new line. Seems greddy is dropping alot of their 240 stuff. Take a look at their website. I guess its N1 time for me. I wanted the greddy but oh well.

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actually i have kgmm springs. the jic is stolen easily?????? how is that? the greddy is becomin hard to find. any thoughts with rsr or invidia? also where would i be able to find the jic for cheap or which retailer sells them? (besides ebay) and what size pipin comes with the n1?

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I got an N1, its great.

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The JIC is held together by springs. It makes the install very easy, but it's also just as easily taken apart. It's got a modular design so it'd be easy to fix should something get busted up. JIC's don't really come all that cheap either. The cheapest I can get is 620 since I can pay cash and it's from a local dealer so I can avoid taxes and what not.

RSR's are louder than the N1. The N1 sounds good, but not as good as the RSR in my opinion. But with all seriousness, you should be running a turbo with the RSR as you won't really be able to carry a conversation in your car with it on.

Invidia, I've no previous experience with so can't help you there. I think I've seen that on ebay or something.

The N1 comes in 3".

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180fan wrote: JIC's don't really come all that cheap either. The cheapest I can get is 620 since I can pay cash and it's from a local dealer so I can avoid taxes and what not. .


Modacar? :oface

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so then i guess it boils down to the n1 or the rsr gtII. the n1 is 3" and the rsr is about the same if not bigger. the question is the n1 or the rsr? thanx for the info 180fan. im really really interested in that rsr now since i wouldnt mind being different from the rest of the apexi world. any other opinions on the rsr or n1? also anybody know of any of these exhausts on sale anywhere?

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Toad[^_^] wrote:Modacar? :oface


Those are just for the tips. Not the full cat-back.

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My personal opinion, I'd get the dual, because all those single large tip exhausts make your car look like it was someone's prison biatch.

Unfortunatly, not many dual tip performance exhausts out there.


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