Anyone want to trade, XM for Sirius module?

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I just bought a 2006 M45 that came with XM. I personally prefer Sirius, anyone want to trade?



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is it simple as swap? i have Sirius and would perfer XM but have no idea how to do this.

rwwlaw
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IF it's the same as the 2007 unit I'm game. Where are you located?

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yosM45
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If you have a 2006 Sirius unti and want a 2006 XM reciever, I'm in.

the 2006s should a direct swap.


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I have Sirius and much perfer XM..... email me for detail, please show me how to swap

[email protected]

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yosM45
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emailed ya.

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I have a 2006 M45 with XM. I want to convert to Sirius. Anybody out there want to trade their Sirius receiver and antenna for XM?

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yosM45
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It''s a nightmare to change receiver. Eggy and I tired it and we decided to leave well enough alone.

But....SIRIUS and XM have merged the channel line-up, so it's doesn't matter which serivce you have now.

Check it out. Half your XM channels are no longer there, and half you Sirius channels are also gone.

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i just purchased a 07 m35. it is equipped with Sirius and i never signed up. Is it free? or will the subscription end one day??

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Yos is right.... it's not as easy as just swap.

In order to do it correctly, you have to swap the unit, the bracket and the antenna.

too much work for little gain

mcdoken
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I just swapped the XM tuner in my 2006 M45 for Sirius. It was easy. It works perfectly. You don't need to change the antenna, bracket or splitter.

Drop the top trunk liner, remove the four screws securing the XM tuner to the bracket. Unplug the BUS and antenna connections. Connect the same BUS and the yellow lead from the XM antenna splitter to your Sirius tuner (the second lead from the splitter is not needed for anything although both were connected on the XM unit). Secure the Sirius tuner to the bracket with one screw. Reattach the trunk liner again with the plastic retainers. You're done.

I ordered Sirius tuner 999U9-AS004 which is what I needed according to the Infiniti parts sites. But 999U9-AS006 arrived instead. I thought they made a mistake but it turns out that 999U9-AS006 supercedes and replaces the earlier 999U9-AS004 unit. This might be the reason why the earlier posters found it a hard job to make the change. Maybe the older Sirius tuner didn't have the same connections as the XM. Or it wouldn't work with the same antenna.

I bought Sirius tuner 999U9-AS006 from infinitipartsmall.com for $172.00

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MnM's_M45
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I just bought a 2006 M45 with a XM receiver installed. I would like to trade someone for a Sirius receiver. If you are interested reply and we'll get this done. As mcdoken said, it's an easy swap and you don't have to change anything. Worst case we trade back.

I want to do this because you save money with a second radio on Sirius. I won't get the discount if I subscribe with XM. I just talked to a rep at Sirius and they haven't merged the billing yet. I'm also not going to do a lifetime plan on a car.

Trying to save money!!

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MnM's_M45
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Anyone?

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MnM's_M45
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Come on...one of you has a Sirius you don't use or want to trade/sell...right?! I'll cover shipping.

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yosM45
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1) Signal quality will not be as good.

2) The mounting brackets are the same, You have to remove those too, which can be nightmare.

3) Depending on the type antenna, they may not be plug and play. connections are color coded. Make sure they your antenna connection is the same color as the connector on the module. Otherwise...

4) You have to trade antennas too. big PITA.

mcdoken
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1) Signal quality is perfect and there are no signal drop outs.

2) You do not have to change the bracket if you're converting from XM to Sirius. The Sirius tuner is smaller and will fit the XM bracket.

3) The yellow lead from the XM antenna is plug and play with the Sirius tuner. The data BUS connector is also plug and play.

4) You do not have to change the antenna or splitter when changing from XM to Sirius.

I know all of this to be true (as long as you use Sirius Tuner 999U9-AS006) because I made the switch from XM last week. It works perfectly and is a 1/2 hour job maximum. The hardest part is removing the back screw that secures the XM tuner to the bracket. Because you can't see it and have to work blind with a small wrench or pliers.

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MnM's_M45
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Good lookin' out mcdoken! So, I guess a trade won't be feasible since I can't guarantee it will be the right part. I'll just drop the $170 to make sure I get what I need.

Thanks again

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yosM45
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mcdoken wrote:1) Signal quality is perfect and there are no signal drop outs.

2) You do not have to change the bracket if you're converting from XM to Sirius. The Sirius tuner is smaller and will fit the XM bracket.

3) The yellow lead from the XM antenna is plug and play with the Sirius tuner. The data BUS connector is also plug and play.

4) You do not have to change the antenna or splitter when changing from XM to Sirius.
1) Signal with Siruis was horrible, even another member on another forum experienced the same number of cut outs. Reason why...see #3

2) You are correct, NO WORRIES for the guy getting the Sirius, but what happens to the guy getting the XM module, when it doesn't fit?

3)The BUS connectors are plug and play. The antenna leads are where the problem comes in...

Yellow is for a satellite signalGreen is for the terestrial signal.

See Satelittle radio doesn't always come form satellites. Depending on where you live and the number of obstructions, XM/SIRI has relays which help carry the signal on the ground.

XM antenna are split into yellow and green. You can plug the yellow only into the Siruis module yellow, but you will lose signal quality depending on where you live because you not using the relays.

Sirius antenna do not use the split signal. They carry both on one line. So the person with a Siruis antenna (yellow), pluging into the XM module yellow will not get a signal becasue XM requires both. They need splitter.

4) Correct again, but what about the other guy. They do not make a functional splitter that will convert the Sirius antenna yellow to green and yellow, therefor you not able to take advantage of both signals.

Eggy and I did this, and we had two major issues.

1) It was a great fit for me becasue all the XM suff fit the Sirius module and I did not have to change brackets.

2) My Sirius singal was lousy. It cut out under trees, underpasses, a cloud...something that my XM doesn't do. I get an XM signal in my garage.

Eggy did not get a signal at all because the XM receiver needed both leads, and he couldn't find a yellow to yellow/green splitter.

Basically it's not a fair trade for both parties.

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MnM's_M45
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Thanks for the feedback yos45. We do all agree that I can just buy Sirius module (999U9-AS006) and it will work, I just won't get the relay signals, right? The Sirius I have now goes out under bridges, so I'm used to it. It probably won't matter in a year anyway when Sirius XM tanks...11 cent stock...if they don't pay their debt off this will have been a moot point.

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digiboy
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Sirius terrestrial is spotty. It is intended for city dwellers to not have interference, but will cut out elsewhere.

For instance, in Chicago, I can get sirius under large underpasses (large enough they need their own lighting) without a problem - even getting stopped underneath by heavy traffic.

Out in the 'burb's, anything more than a two lane bridge will kill the signal.

I'll find out with XM on Monday if it is equally impacted.

mcdoken
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I live and work 30 miles south of Houston and I haven't had a single problem with my XM to Sirius conversion. It works when the car is in the garage. Not a single drop out in a week. City and country driving. I had both Sirius and XM since they started so I know when it's working right.

Either yosM45 and Eggy did something wrong during their conversions or they had the original 999U9-AS004 instead of the newer 999U9-AS006 Sirius tuner. That might be the difference. Or that Sirius works especially good in the Houston area but not where they live.

mcdoken
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In my previous post I didn't notice that it was a swap and Eggy was trying to install XM in an original Sirius equipped car. I can see where that wouldn't work without changing the antenna, bracket and splitter. My XM to Sirius works good but I didn't go on a long road trip yet. I'll update this thread once I do.

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digiboy wrote:Sirius terrestrial is spotty. It is intended for city dwellers to not have interference, but will cut out elsewhere.

For instance, in Chicago, I can get sirius under large underpasses (large enough they need their own lighting) without a problem - even getting stopped underneath by heavy traffic.

Out in the 'burb's, anything more than a two lane bridge will kill the signal.

I'll find out with XM on Monday if it is equally impacted.
Confirmed - in the Chicagoland area, XM has fewer signal drop-outs than Sirius. Its not the connection - its just the terrestrial coverage.

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Since it is "Sirius XM" now that they merged and they both have the same programming - just different channel designations, what is accomplished by the switch? XM even reduced their bit rate transmissions to accomodate Sirius when they merged so their sound quality is no longer "near CD".

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NightWatch wrote:Since it is "Sirius XM" now that they merged and they both have the same programming - just different channel designations, what is accomplished by the switch? XM even reduced their bit rate transmissions to accomodate Sirius when they merged so their sound quality is no longer "near CD".
As I mentioned before:

"I want to do this because you save money with a second radio on Sirius. I won't get the discount if I subscribe with XM. I just talked to a rep at Sirius and they haven't merged the billing yet. I'm also not going to do a lifetime plan on a car."

*All additional radios are $6.99 opposed to $12.95*

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NightWatch wrote:Since it is "Sirius XM" now that they merged and they both have the same programming - just different channel designations, what is accomplished by the switch? XM even reduced their bit rate transmissions to accomodate Sirius when they merged so their sound quality is no longer "near CD".
They merged the companies but they didn't merge the programming. You can get a few Sirius channels, mostly sports, on XM (The best of Sirius) and and a few XM channels on Sirius. But what I listen to on Sirius isn't available on XM. So I swapped tuners.

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MnM’s_M45 wrote:Thanks for the feedback yos45. We do all agree that I can just buy Sirius module (999U9-AS006) and it will work, I just won't get the relay signals, right?
Correct...If you have XM and want Sirius, just buy a new tuner. Signal quality, depends on where you live due to terrestrial coverage.

If you have Sirius and want XM, good luck.


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