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I'm trying to decide between Top Hat mounts and E & E Motorsports' mount kit.

I've seen a lot of discussion on the Top Hats and how they are fairly good, but Eric at E&E will sell me a set of his for $225.

$225 beats the hell out of $375, just wanted to see who is using them and if you like them.


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You sold all of your RB25 stuff to do a RB20?

As far as the mount kits. I would be very careful about using any of them because if the driveline angle is off it will wear out that wonderful 2 piece stock driveshaft. Just double check your angles to make sure that it isn't pushing anything out of place.

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yellow_jacket wrote:You sold all of your RB25 stuff to do a RB20?

As far as the mount kits. I would be very careful about using any of them because if the driveline angle is off it will wear out that wonderful 2 piece stock driveshaft. Just double check your angles to make sure that it isn't pushing anything out of place.
Nope. I sold all of the RB25 stuff because the project had become a money pit.

I sold my daily driver as well and then combined everything to get my 95 Supra TT 6SPD. However, the Supra gets 15-17mpg avg and I hate driving it on a daily basis to work and school putting useless miles on it. Hence the Rb20 swap as my daily driver. I spent $450 on the car and just bought the motor from JHOT for $799. Add in a clutch and some various items needed for install and I've got a clean, relatively rare, entertaining daily driver for <$2500. Not to mention, when I graduate I'm sure I'll get something else and then I can use this as my drift/track dedicated car.

What mounting technique are you going with for your swap?

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R32 crossmember and mounts. I will probably end up modifying them though.

The nice thing is that I will have a one piece driveshaft so I don't have to worry about tweaking the driveline angle.

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Daniel, you probably aren't going to find alot of my customers on the forums that use our mounts, alot of them have never even found the forums, there's a couple on here that I know of. I mainly use the mounts in our swaps, not to sell for the DIY's, I do offer them but it's not something that I push to make sales, we do swaps. I have 5 RB cars using the mounts at the shop right now if you want to take a look or go for a ride. Blaine is right on the driveshaft though. I noticed vibration after a while when we used to use the Tophat mounts, one-peice is the way to go though, or get the NISMO transmission bushing, it will help alot. If you can make it out tommorrow, we are a bout to fire another RB up, 3 down 6 more to go before Nopi, it's gonna be fun.

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To be totally honest I don't like my E&E mounts, either does my friend who got them the same time I did. Had alot of drama, took us a while to get them, and well... both of our sets already broke. They were made of 1/8 thick steel, rubber isolators they included broke and I had to get a new hood since the intake manifold slammed into it. Brads isolator fell apart also, went to match it up at the local autoparts store and it cost exactly 5.18. cheap stuff go with Tophat. All problems have already been sorted out.

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Got pics Alex, hard to beleive they broke, I have never seen a set of ours break, I know we had issues getting your set to you, but we resolved that. Was it the goofed up set that you got that you are speaking of breaking? As for the isolators, they're the same as the ones that Top Hat uses, and they don't cost $5.18. How did they break on you and nobody else? I've forgotten to put nuts on my vert before and driven for over a week without even realising it, and my hoods fine. The 1/8 thick steel isn't being used anymore, it's 10 gauge now instead. Anyways Daniel, stop on by the shop and see in person, thats the best way I have 4+ cars with various power levels running our mounts and I'll give you a ride in each.

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how many other people can score a mount kit for $225 dollars? pshh i'd be interested

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Email me, [email protected], I am willing to work out pricing for a few sets just so more people can use them, and give their reviews on the boards. We have over 20 RB swapped cars on our mounts and none of the problems that Slo described has ever happened, we're doing 3 26's for an undisclosed comapny to be ready in 3 months with single turbo upgrades, and AEM EMS each planning for over 600 to the wheels, 1 S14 Kouki, 1 coupe and 1 HB, all 3 using our mounts.

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I us ethe mount in My Coupe I will Post up pics of how the 25 sits I need a transmission bushing But no problems Really

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emailed!

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yellow_jacket wrote:R32 crossmember and mounts. I will probably end up modifying them though.

The nice thing is that I will have a one piece driveshaft so I don't have to worry about tweaking the driveline angle.
thank god some one decided to listen to me...........everyone told me i was a fool for saying that but its all just a matter of time before the loaded transmission takes a **** because of the driveline angle.

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yep, driveline stuff can be crazy.

I just want to see daniel have good luck with this project after all the crap he endured in the last one.

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yellow_jacket wrote:yep, driveline stuff can be crazy.

I just want to see daniel have good luck with this project after all the crap he endured in the last one.
Yep, I definitely want to have a sucessful project. At least I took a few good steps this time by A. buying the motor from a reputable shop (JHOT) and B. Swapping it STOCK and not going big at first.

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ok so..people say GET A MOUNT KIT alot becaus its easier and helps lower the motor .now people are saying its $hit cuz it will mess up the transmission?

so which is the BEST choice? rb xmember or mount kiti dont wanna have a jacked up transmission or anything fail

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No they are saying get a mount kit because the stock R33 crossmember and mounts throw the driveshaft operational angle off.

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Slo_240sx wrote:No they are saying get a mount kit because the stock R33 crossmember and mounts throw the driveshaft operational angle off.
well not really with a rb25 as you have to have a new driveshaft made anyways.it really pertains more to the rb20 swaps that use the stock drive shaft which if you lower and move the engine and transmission back will change the intended driveline angle.using a r32 xmember and transmission mount ensures proper bolt up with the stock driveshaft, and no worries; with any mount kit i would go to a 1 piece custom bit.

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The mount kits try to put the motor in a position that is closest to where the factory would have put the rb if it was ment to be there. No matter what setup you go with the driveline is going to sit at some sort of angle. Remember that you are putting in a motor that doesn't belong.
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s13burger wrote:The mount kits try to put the motor in a position that is closest to where the factory would have put the rb if it was ment to be there. No matter what setup you go with the driveline is going to sit at some sort of angle. Remember that you are putting in a motor that doesn't belong.

Modified by s13burger at 6:50 PM 9/1/2005
Exactly. The mounting kits are an incredible tool to use but with the 2 piece driveshafts you just need to watch your driveline angles. Personally I would still go with a 1 piece shaft even with the mount kits.

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s13burger wrote:The mount kits try to put the motor in a position that is closest to where the factory would have put the rb if it was ment to be there. No matter what setup you go with the driveline is going to sit at some sort of angle. Remember that you are putting in a motor that doesn't belong.

Modified by s13burger at 6:50 PM 9/1/2005
i still beg to differ, if we examine how the rb20 mounts into the s13 and s14 chassis it mounts identicaly how as how it did in the skyline.the only reason that the hood hits is beause the skyline uses taller hood hinges and the nose of the car is a good 6" longer.having done a few rb20 swaps into s13's and now my s14 it fits perfectly using the r32 xmembers........driveline is straight on both chassis and on the s14 the stock driveshaft can take some play becauase it has uni joints on either ends (transmission input and diff output.i would possibly worry about the s13 tho because it is a bit shorter than the s14's which engages the output shaft fully (i even took the dust collar off my ka transmission and put it on my rb because it fit THAT well).however when you get onto the subject of a rb25 in a s chassis then yeah its a diffrent story, you need a mount kit but then again you should also be making up a one piece driveshaft anyways.i am confident enough in the r32 xmember mounting in my s14 that im willing to put money on the line that says that the engine and transmission are perfectly level and there is not strange drive line angles in it.

either way this is how i see it use the xmember and use stock driveshaft, use mount kits and make a new drive shaft, simple as that.

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here is how e-e sits in my rb25 passanger

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Now Driver Turbo Side

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holy jesbus, those pics are so big i cant tell what is what or how the mounts sit.......

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Sorry I do Not know how to re size them i just downloaded from the camera.

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Actually burnin240sx we've never actually had the problems ya'll may have had with the isolators, I know I had one that came apart before we even took it out of the box, but all of the other sets of isolators we have used have been fine. None have torn in the cars we have used them on. The mounts we made are not copies of Top Hats either, compare the 2 they aren't copies, they look different and sit slightly different, therefore not copies, but similar.

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geez u guys make it hard for me to choose which place 2 buy a mount kit...

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I just installed the TOP HAT mounts if you are interested in a review. I have not driven on them though.

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nice mounts accel junky....what made you go with Top Hat mounts?

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accel junky wrote:I just installed the TOP HAT mounts if you are interested in a review. I have not driven on them though.
well drive on em, and tell me your opinion

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i got mickinney's.. aint nothin like spendin 1,200$ for the goods.


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