Anyone running W7s in thier rides?

[nothingwrong]

Anyone on the board running some W7s?

[ayjay]

hey man... by the looks of it, i don't think so they are overpriced for how they perform... if you're thinking about buying one, don't unless you are a JL fan and have loads of cash to spend... better choice for the money would be RF HX2 or Kicker L7...

[nothingwrong]

Have we ever heard the W7s in a car before? Most people only go by what they hear in a wall at car audio shops. I am planning on getting some W7s, Im just not sure on how many and which size. Just seeing if anyone has any on the board, so i can get some ideas. Alot of people hate on W7s for the wrong reasons(im not trying to start a flame war, hear me out). Go listen to a w7 13.5, in a ported box, with around 1400 watts rms, in car. Then tell me whats up. They are expensive, but most people who have the subs didnt pay retail for them, and hell, who would? Local shops can be talked down pretty easily, especially if you know what the dealer cost of the sub is:D . The L7s are pretty good subs, they can get loud, but they cant come close to the W7 in terms of SQ. And the HX2s, youre kidding right? Even if it were the Power HX2s, Id still laugh.... talk about "over priced for how they perform". Yeah JLs stuff is high priced, but thats what you pay for performance. Rockford is just too commercial now. The quality of their stuff has dropped like 50 % compared to the stuff they were putting out lke 5 years ago. Actual compareable subs to the W7 : Eclipse Titanium, ED A series, Beyond Audio Inhuman, RE XXX, IDMAX.

This isnt a JL pride post, im just looking for people with experiences with this sub in smaller vehicles, like the s13. I need to talk boxes.

[scruf1986]

I think there may be a sub war brewing. However, why not get the W6. I don't think the W7 is that much better than the W6 for the price difference.

[ayjay]

ya HX2's and L7's are the only mainstream decent subsi could think of...

beyond audio inhuman... best bang for the buck IMHO...have you ever heard a Beyond Audio Inhuman 15" with an Earthquake D2 Shredder hooked up to it in a slot ported 7.5 cu.ft. box tuned at 50hz? absolutely amazing... and yes i have heard W7, in a car, although it was only powered by a JL1000.1, it sounded amazing too, but like i said... $$$

why not go Inhuman? cheaper than W7 both are SQ subs but Inhuman puts out higher SPL...

in terms of sub boxes and how many you should get, go with one sub in a about a 4.5 cu.ft. box, slot ported... if you're gonna compete, it's the best way to go, since very few people hit over 140db in the single sub class (12" or less, dunno about 13").. with a W7 powered with 1200W, you'll prolly hit around 142db if you do it right...

i have an Orion HCCA 12" which will have 1000W RMS goin into it... it's a beefy sub and the box that i made is close to 4.5 cu.ft.

dimensions for the box is 30" wide x 24" long x 11" high (nearest hatch) and angles up to 14" high (near backseats)... made outta 3/4" mdf, and it's a solid mofo...

dunno but i think my Orion is as close as you're gonna get to a W7... i'll let you know how it sounds when it's all installed in a couple weeks...

[nothingwrong]

The W7 is a tottaly different monster than the W6. Once you get into the higher power handleing levels, you will notice the difference. Im not really concerned about the price of the sub, I can actually get them for a pretty decent price. I was actually thinking about the Inhuman, but after alot of research and listening I like the Sq of the W7 better. The Inhuman may be able to get a little louder, but a little is all Ill give it. Still an excellent driver, but just not what I want in terms of SQ. I listened to the IDMAX and loved its ability to play every note with precision. But it was lacking the SPL that I want. They do get loud, as most subs do, but not enough fire power for me. I was thinking about a one sub set up, since I want to save as much weight as possible. But I might break down and get two W7 13.5s and port em. As long as my sub/box set up doesnt weight more than 100 pounds then im happy. Ill prolly go fiber glass on the box, Im actually looking into carbon fiber. A few people said it could be done, Im trying to find some truth in it. I think a carbon fiber box would be awesome.

[ayjay]

I think a carbon fiber box would be awesome.

uhh... YA! that would be fukin insane! but that whole baking it for 8 hours and all that is a lot of work... you'd need to find a big oven to do it in if you want any kind of decent size box for an L7...

fibreglass is more reasonable, and weight is not an issue, prolly lookin at 30-40lbs for one that will fill your trunk... my buddy made one for his 4 type r's in the back of his civic HB, and it weighed about 40lbs...



supplies to do a fibreglass box like this would cost you around $150 cdn (mdf, spandex, fibreglass/resin, bondo) and of course the paint job...

if you do anything like this, kudos to you my door panels were enough work, i don't think i'd have the patience to fibreglass my entire trunk

[ayjay]

oh ya, speaking of inhuman... this is the 7.5 cu.ft box, with the MASSIVE slot port... his new system to replace the 4 type r's:



i would say that it's pretty loud........

[nothingwrong]

Ive done fiberglass about 6 times. I have yet to do a sub box though. Ive gotten pretty good at kicks and door panels. But yeah, lots of work. Someone else gave me the idea for the carbon fibe box. Ive never seen it done, but I figured Id look into it. Thats an awesome looking box for those typr r's. What is the box for the Inhuman tuned to? Its frikin huge:eek:

[creophus]

The problem with the W7s and some of the other high ends subs is that they weigh a ton! I love bass, but can't afford them and don't want to add 30lbs of weight (approximation).

[GatorS14]

I'm not really into subwoofers,but my freind had 3 W7's in his 01 mustang.and he had three 1100 watt amps (i think) and that car would thump.custom boxed in.

but, ive never heard the kickers.

[ayjay]

Thats an awesome looking box for those typr r's. What is the box for the Inhuman tuned to? Its frikin huge:eek:

ya that fibreglass enclosure for the 4 type r's was all show pretty much... he was runnin an MA audio 1800W amp into them, but he still only hit 144db...

the beast for his Inhuman is 7.5 cu ft... i didn't even think a 92 integra had that much trunk space, but it's built into the spare tire wheel well which gives him another cube... the port you see in the pic is his competition port which is tuned to 50hz, and he can swap in a cruisin port which is smaller but is tuned to 30hz, so you can pump the songs with the low bass... just tapping on the sub in that pic filled my basement with bass... he hasn't gotten it metered yet, he's still vinyling it and stuff, but we're thinkin it's hittin about 151db with the shredder runnin through it...

[nothingwrong]

Awesome box, post some pics of the finished results. What size is the Inhuman, 15"?

[ayjay]

ya it's a 15", with TRIPLE SPIDER!! soo stiff, you can almost put your whole body weight on the cone and it barely moves.... but when you feed it 2000W RMS+ coming from a D2 shredder with a damping (sp?) factor of 500, it gets about 2" of total excursion. it's somethin to see, but he wants to get another D2 so he'd have 2000W RMS+ runnin to each voice coil

my sub looks pretty weak in comparison to the inhuman, but should still pound enough to blow some window seals i'll post pics of how it looks when i'm done in a week...

[Rex]

You guys ever hear of McCauley loudspeakers? It's been ages since I had anything in the way of a serious stereo, but I had this monster (32lb) 15 running off the rear half of a RF Power 300 and it was decent. Box needed tuning bad, actually had to defeat the bass on the head unit to keep it from trying to bust the 1 inch MDF box apart.

I went with it after hearing a pair of the 18's (isobaric piggy back) with a RF Power 650 bridged half on each one. Not sure what the specs were on them back them, but I think they have a web site with info. He was hitting the highest numbers I had ever seen (1990) for a non-mulit sub system. That was a "Pro".

Just one old timers ramblings.

[ayjay]

i think the inhuman is somewhere around 45 lbs... the 10", 12", 15" and 18" all use the same triple stacked 300oz magnet, so the 10" looks like one solid mofo as you could imagine:

Inhuman pics

never heard of those McCauley's... musta had crazy sensitivity if the 15" powered by 650W was loud enough to win trophies...

but then again, times change

[Rex]

Wow, 45 lbs. I tried to edit, but the clock ran out (30 minute limit).

It weighed 23lbs not 32lbs. According to their web site http://www.mccauley.com/mainframe.htm, the Magnetic Assembly Weight is 17lbs. And it was back in the day when Rockford Fosgate made REAL power and under rated their amps.

[nothingwrong]

.......And it was back in the day when Rockford Fosgate made REAL power and under rated their amps.

This man knows what hes talking about.

[InstantRice]

Didn't we already have a long discussion dismissing the w7's because of their price and their "boomieness" since JL audio is all about sound Q and these arent up to their usual standards in Q. nice spl but for the price....

[ayjay]

Didn't we already have a long discussion dismissing the w7's because of their price and their "boomieness" since JL audio is all about sound Q and these arent up to their usual standards in Q. nice spl but for the price....

i think that has been discussed many times before, but i still have much respect for the W7s...

today i went to a boom meet that my buddy hosted for a local import car club... there was a gmc denalli rollin on 23's with two 13W7's, powered by a Memphis 2000W RMS amp... OMG! the bass was sooo tight and accurate, and we estimated it was hittin high 140's by the way our hair moved, and ear follicles tickled with the bass never heard any subs pound so loud and accurate than those ones...

W7's are nice subs, they're SQ subs which can compete with SPL subs, and that is why there's a price to em'

[ayjay]

so in other words... nothingwrong, get two 13W7's, build a nice big slot ported box, and feed em 2000W... should hit 150db easily and put out super tight bass

[InstantRice]

ayjay, i dont know if you could call them sq subs, JL audio a brand i hate, is built on sq and these subs just dont have the tight accurate base of some of their other products. As far spl goes they are pretty good spl subs.

[nothingwrong]

They were made to be SQ subs that get loud. I doubt you will find anyone running W7s in the SPL lanes. Maybe a few bold people. They just werent made for that. They can hang with some of the best dont get me wrong, but the W7 is a SQL sub . In a proper install, the W7s are very accurate. Id didnt think the sub sounded boomy at all. In a sealed enclosure the 13.5 sounded very tight and accurate IMHO. I had a chance to hear a 13.5 slot ported, tuned to around 32 htz, on a US Amps 2000x. That was an amazing experience. Im pretty set on the W7 13.5s, most likely 2. Im gonna run about 1600-1700 watts rms per sub, from two Zapco 9.0s. JLs warranty wont cover the sub past 2000 watts rms, so running the amps at a 3 ohm load is gonna be the best bet. I wont be getting the full 2200 watts rms from each amp, but Ill have hella head room.

[bigE]

I haven't heard many people running the W7's in there cars, most peoples problem is their price, there's alot better products out there for the money, you just gotta find them. I generally change out my setup about once a year, this year I think I'm gonna swap from Kove, and go back with Soundstream. My distributor did a custom install with the new Davinci's http://www.soundstream.com/DAVINCIWoofer.html, 2 15's in the back of an Escalade, running off of their new Human Reign amps http://www.soundstream.com/HUMANamp.html, and it was about the most awesome setup I've seen in a long time, and It sounded better than it looked, especially for 2 15's, they hit hard, and the SQ was awesome compared to most other 15's.

Eric

[nothingwrong]

I agree, you could get two great subs for the price of a single W7. I think they are some of the best subs out there if price isnt an issue, along side the Eclipse Ti Pro and the DD 9900 series. If you have money to spare and alot of power, then its for you.

[bigE]

Eclipse makes some bad *** subs also, I ran the older Titanium series a couple of years ago, and I loved them. Haven't ran any DD yet.

Eric

[InstantRice]

yeah, but for most price is an issue, as far as price goes im still in love with the brahmas. but i dont have to worry about car audio let alone car anything, damn speeding ticket...