anyone put this 2in1 PERFORMANCE CHIP in there rogue

[jshen24755]

Hi guys:

I saw on ebay and they selling this 2in1 PERFORMANCE CHIP and say to be more hp and save gas:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...7.m29

anyone put chip in there rogue?

thanks

[Lakerfan1975]

Can't say that I have but I'd be very interested to know if it actually works. Sounds a bit to good to be true.

[amr40509]

Hi guys:

I saw on ebay and they selling this 2in1 PERFORMANCE CHIP and say to be more hp and save gas:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...7.m29

anyone put chip in there rogue?

thanks

Sounds like a scam to me.

I've used chips/ecu upgrades in cars before, but these were program changes made by tuners who specilize in that type of car. These were also for sports cars and cost $500+.

[philipa_240sx]

I raise the BS flag big time.

First off, the claims of HP, mileage, etc are totally unrealistic. I've seen and used upgraded ECU's and at most a 5-10% increase in HP might be squeezed by optimizing air/fuel ratios, ignition timing, etc and usually you have to run premium fuel.

Next the idea the engine is tuned overly rich from the factory is bogus. Modern engine controls use oxygen sensors that provide feedback and maintain the ideal stoichiometric air fuel ratio. This is necessary for the emissions systems (catalytic converter) and the engine to work properly.

Most of these so called 'tuning chips' or modules either do nothing or run the engine dangerously lean. Unless it comes from a reputable tuner who has experience (ie. Stillen or Jim Wolf Technologies), stay away!

[cdmuile]

A lot of those Ebay chips do work but be advised, Your warrantee will be at stake. I've had experience with both Jaguar and Hyundai and you can kiss your warrantee goodby. And yes, the service people can tell if a different chip has been used. Although this is my first Nissan, I assume Nissan is as vigilant.

[amr40509]

I raise the BS flag big time.

First off, the claims of HP, mileage, etc are totally unrealistic. I've seen and used upgraded ECU's and at most a 5-10% increase in HP might be squeezed by optimizing air/fuel ratios, ignition timing, etc and usually you have to run premium fuel.

Next the idea the engine is tuned overly rich from the factory is bogus. Modern engine controls use oxygen sensors that provide feedback and maintain the ideal stoichiometric air fuel ratio. This is necessary for the emissions systems (catalytic converter) and the engine to work properly.

Most of these so called 'tuning chips' or modules either do nothing or run the engine dangerously lean. Unless it comes from a reputable tuner who has experience (ie. Stillen or Jim Wolf Technologies), stay away!

The factory computer programming is generally about as good as it gets. Afterall, why would Nissan leave some preformance on the table in such a competitive market?

I chipped my last car, but this wasn't so much for horse power, but to remove the speed limiter (was factory set at 136) and raise the rev limiter (I used it at the track). I then had it re-programmed again when I switched out the cams to a little 'rougher' but higher rpm/horsepower set -- this was to optimize the fule/air mixture to work w/ these cams.

For a stock crossover that is designed more as an economey car then a sports car, I'd stay away from this path.

[Kirk in Iowa]

This is likely is going to be just like every other five dollar performance chip. Not really a chip at all...simply a resistor.

Probably a little box with a resistor inside that you run in series (or in parallel, depending on the car) with your coolant temperature sensor or air temp sensor to trick your engine into thinking it's colder than it really is, which tricks it into giving you more timing advance, and more fuel.

It's garbage. The advanced timing might be somewhat useful, but the extra fuel is just as likely to lose you power as it is to help you gain any. In cases where the advanced timing is not warranted, you may get detonation within the cylinders (pinging), which of course leads to premature engine failure.

In addition, if your engine thinks it's cooler than it actually is you may not get your cooling fan to come on and you stand the possiblility of overheating the engine.

I would not walk... but run away from this "performance chip"
Modified by Kirk in Iowa at 9:12 AM 2/1/2008

[modnew3d]

My mechanic thought it was modern day snake oil and that it could ruin your catalytic converter. He put it in the same category as the fuel line magnets they try to sell to increase your mileage. I bought it from them since there was a money back guarantee with no questions asked. After his advice, I then tried to get my money back. Guess what happened? No refund and an accusation that I had returned the part damaged. I recommend you stay away from these guys- they are not honest and the part is probably fake as well.

[zakmartin]

Just like the Turbonator, Slick-50, fuel line magnets and Octane Boost, the 2-in-1 Performance Chip is a well-known scam and if anything, will harm your car. If you want to go with a performce chip, go with something like JET Chips Performance or a dyno-tune with a reputable garage.

As stated above, you're getting a $0.15 resistor in a box.

As for why you'd buy a Rogue so you can take it to a track and race it, well... I'll just scratch my head over that one.

[soltys]

]you dont know what your talking about its give me 130 hp and 40mpg so yea

So you're now putting out more HP then a 350Z b/c with an additional 130hp that show make the Rogue output right around the 300 mark.

OR

are you saying that now you've dropped in hp to 130. Way to go buddy ... we all only wish we could buy a chip to loose horsepower. I don't know why other people aren't thinking out this.

[kerrton]

So the consensus is that this is a scam and definately not a good idea. This is a good example of where a forum like this can prevent owners from making a mistake that not only wont work, but could actually harm their vehicle and void the warranty.

Hopefully Rogue owners will check here before considering buying this scam. Thanks everyone for contributing to this.